GDT: #40 | Flyers at Leafs | Sunday, January 5, 2024 | 7:00 PM TONIGHT | NBCSP, 97.5 FM

[FlyerNutter]

As for goalies… I will always laugh to high hell they didn’t even try to address a need for elite talent. Again.

Aside from no coherent plan to draft high, what’s the point of dealing all these idiots for meh level draft picks if you never use them in creative ways anyway.




Just bc everyone else likes posting it.

Imagine Gauthier, Michkov, Buium, Perreault (I know next to shit about him but the name comes up), Askarov, and say Ethan Bear.

Instead of this bullshit. They don’t have the evaluation skill to do a half ass retool. That much is clear.

 

[mr4tno]

Normally getting 1 point in Toronto would be considered a good night. Something just feels really wrong about this season.

Fedotov is our best goalie right now though. Crazy he went 1 month between starts.



Poehling got rewarded for his awful turnover that resulted in a goal against in the 1st with more ice time than ever. I wonder if Frost would get that treatment? Lol.

I was thinking the same thing. Awful brain-dead turnover and he player 3 more minutes than Frost

 

[Danko]

Imagine a world, where Michkov would be playing with TK on the top line.

 

[deadhead]

Imagine a world, where Michkov would be playing with TK on the top line.

What is the top line?
Last 19 games, when lines became set, 5x5 TOI [last 5 games]:
TK 16:04 [15:03]
Couts 15:01 [13:47]
Farabee 14:03 [11:46]
Tippett 12:55 [13:51]
Foerster 12:35 [13:35]
Cates 12:12 [12:58]
Frost 12:08 [11:26]
Michkov 12:07 [11:09]
Laughton 12:01 [12:21]
Poehling 11:51 [12:13]
Brink 11:37 [13:18]
Hathaway 10:36 [9:41]

The Brink line is playing a minute more a night
The Couts line a minute less
The Frost line is about the same, though Michkov tends to get less ice time with a lead.
The real issue is juggling TK, Tippett, Farabee & Hathaway with Couts and Poehling at center.
Just no good fits.

One thing that stands out is rolling four lines, outside of Hathaway, everyone plays between 11-15 minutes a night at 5x5.

 

[freakydallas13]

McCabe took two cheap shots at Hathaway before the fight, so he got what he deserved.

I don't care about the point, they're going to pick from 10-15, even with these bad goalies, they're still close to .500 of potential points, that's too good to approach the top 5.

They're playing at a high level at 5x5.
If the current players are capable of sustaining 5x5 play in the top 5-10, then you're half way there.

Last season finished 7th in xGF%, 8th in HDCF%.
This season 10th in xGF%, 13th in HDCF%
Since 11/25, when the Cates line was put together and lines and pairs stabilized:
2nd in xGF%, 4th in HDCF%
Also 8th in 5x5 Sh%, so they're generating better shots/finishing better.

A couple lateral moves/additions could set this team as a top 5 possession monster for an extended period.

Goalies? My solution is simple, keep drafting until the goalie slot machine lights up with 3 pucks and out comes a top ten goalie.

Bro this team has 9 regulation wins.

9. In January.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

What is the top line?
Last 19 games, when lines became set, 5x5 TOI [last 5 games]:
TK 16:04 [15:03]
Couts 15:01 [13:47]
Farabee 14:03 [11:46]
Tippett 12:55 [13:51]
Foerster 12:35 [13:35]
Cates 12:12 [12:58]
Frost 12:08 [11:26]
Michkov 12:07 [11:09]
Laughton 12:01 [12:21]
Poehling 11:51 [12:13]
Brink 11:37 [13:18]
Hathaway 10:36 [9:41]

The Brink line is playing a minute more a night
The Couts line a minute less
The Frost line is about the same, though Michkov tends to get less ice time with a lead.
The real issue is juggling TK, Tippett, Farabee & Hathaway with Couts and Poehling at center.
Just no good fits.

One thing that stands out is rolling four lines, outside of Hathaway, everyone plays between 11-15 minutes a night at 5x5.

So we’ve done away with the excuse that a prospect can’t be on the 4th line. Excellent.

 

[freakydallas13]

What is the top line?
Last 19 games, when lines became set, 5x5 TOI [last 5 games]:
TK 16:04 [15:03]
Couts 15:01 [13:47]
Farabee 14:03 [11:46]
Tippett 12:55 [13:51]
Foerster 12:35 [13:35]
Cates 12:12 [12:58]
Frost 12:08 [11:26]
Michkov 12:07 [11:09]
Laughton 12:01 [12:21]
Poehling 11:51 [12:13]
Brink 11:37 [13:18]
Hathaway 10:36 [9:41]

The Brink line is playing a minute more a night
The Couts line a minute less
The Frost line is about the same, though Michkov tends to get less ice time with a lead.
The real issue is juggling TK, Tippett, Farabee & Hathaway with Couts and Poehling at center.
Just no good fits.

One thing that stands out is rolling four lines, outside of Hathaway, everyone plays between 11-15 minutes a night at 5x5.

Come back in 3 years and we can tell you who the top line is.

 

[deadhead]

So we’ve done away with the excuse that a prospect can’t be on the 4th line. Excellent.

Depends on the prospect and the lines.
There's the road/home dichotomy.

When Frost first came up, he was horrid on the road and solid at home, b/c he could be sheltered at home but the opposing HC chooses matchups on the road. So lines on the road have to be at least tolerable defensively, b/c opposing HC will roll out his scoring lines if you field a "black hole" line.

Outside of Lycksell don't think any forward at LHV is ready for prime time.
Andrae is blocked by Zamula playing so well. And he's not a good fit with Drysdale.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

By the way, Fedotov wasn't terrible but guess what? Betting Kolosov is back in next game.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Every other game I watch this season is a contender for the most boring NHL game I have ever seen in my life. So it was especially funny in the 3rd period to hear JJ and Bouch riff on what a good, entertaining defensive game we were all getting to witness.

 

[ybnvs]

Andrae is blocked by Zamula

No.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

Every other game I watch this season is a contender for the most boring NHL game I have ever seen in my life. So it was especially funny in the 3rd period to hear JJ and Bouch riff on what a good, entertaining defensive game we were all getting to witness.

This dino ass team. It's been alluded to already but they definitely played for the OT. No real attempt at any sustained offense in the 3rd. That's why this team is mediocre

 

[MJL66]

Depends on the prospect and the lines.
There's the road/home dichotomy.

When Frost first came up, he was horrid on the road and solid at home, b/c he could be sheltered at home but the opposing HC chooses matchups on the road. So lines on the road have to be at least tolerable defensively, b/c opposing HC will roll out his scoring lines if you field a "black hole" line.

Outside of Lycksell don't think any forward at LHV is ready for prime time.
Andrae is blocked by Zamula playing so well. And he's not a good fit with Drysdale.

Andrae is being blocked by the Flyers incompetence. He's their 3rd best defenseman and apparently there is no room for him.

 

[kudymen]

Come back in 3 years and we can tell you who the top line is.

Good news. 3 years is fewer games than 289 games.

Standards are getting lower

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Andrae is being blocked by the Flyers incompetence. He's their 3rd best defenseman and apparently there is no room for him.

Well Risto made him look so good he is now trying to revive Zamulas season.

 

[deadhead]

Zamula's been playing great since he got back into the lineup.
Torts rode him to make quicker decisions, and guess what, he's more decisive since he returned.
Zamula 14g xGF 65.42%, HDCF 62.73%
Andrae 9g xGF 65.16%, HDCF 63.58%

Both primarily paired with Risto.
If they trade Risto at the TDL
Andrae - Zamula or Andrae/Zamula - Grans.

 

[MJL66]

Zamula's been playing great since he got back into the lineup.
Torts rode him to make quicker decisions, and guess what, he's more decisive since he returned.
Zamula 14g xGF 65.42%, HDCF 62.73%
Andrae 9g xGF 65.16%, HDCF 63.58%

Both primarily paired with Risto.
If they trade Risto at the TDL
Andrae - Zamula or Andrae/Zamula - Grans.

Zamula is not remotely able to match Andrae's ability to retrieve pucks and make smart and efficient outlets. Andrae is a significantly better player than Zamula. Andrae made an impact when he came up.

 

[Rebels57]

Zamula is playing so they have a translator for Michkov because they are too stupid to realize you can just hire a non-player translator

 

[Ghosts Beer]

We've got fans upset about Hathaway beating up McCabe after McCabe cheap-shotted Hathaway's head into the ice?

What has happened to the Flyers' fanbase?

McCabe messed with a bull and got the horns.

 

[ybnvs]

What has happened to the Flyers' fanbase?

 

[deadhead]

Zamula is playing so they have a translator for Michkov because they are too stupid to realize you can just hire a non-player translator

Zamula is playing b/c he's playing well. It's that simple.

Zamula is limited athletically, below average speed, good reach but lanky build means leverage will always be an issue. However, he's a smooth skater who's agile for his size, has a plus shot and is a plus passer. Good vision, good using his stick on defense.

His issue has been that lack of speed and struggles with pressure due to his build, had a bad habit of looking for his best option allowing forecheckers time to crowd him and force turnovers - now he's making faster decisions and getting rid of the puck before pressure reaches him.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Not really. Frost and Michkov got the least 5on5 TOI. Tippett and Poehling (laugh) got the most. Couturier was in the middle.

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/game.php?season=20242025&game=20635

Tippett and Poehling were easily the worst skaters and one of them directly lead to a Leafs goal.

Its so maddening.

 

[bennysflyers16]

We've got fans upset about Hathaway beating up McCabe after McCabe cheap-shotted Hathaway's head into the ice?

What has happened to the Flyers' fanbase?

McCabe messed with a bull and got the horns.

I do agree with you, but most I have seen are saying they don't like to see any players sustain a potentially life changing injury, deserved or not.. Which I can also agree with.

 

[Rich Nixon]

The whole Hathaway ordeal started with one of his cheapshot "oops didn't mean to do that" interferences on Pacioretty to set up the first Flyers goal. He does that shit all the time and I don't know how he gets away with it, because it's usually pretty blatant.

So from there the target's on Hathaway the rest of the game AND Pacioretty's fired up. The result is Hathaway landing on McCabe's head, Pacioretty boarding Seeler, and Domi trying to elbow Hathaway in the head.

I dunno, f*** Hathaway. Guy does nothing for me. Got away with a blatant penalty that allowed the Flyers to score and in doing so opened the door for multiple situations where he and other players suffered significant head contact. I'm a grownup now so that doesn't get my dick hard anymore.

 

[Flyer lurker]

No.

This is the team that blocked Ghost with