4 Years Ago: Max traded to Vegas for Suzuki & Tatar
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BigDaddyLurch
Have some PRIDE, Eric...
...hard to believe that said trade literally fell into Bargain Bin's lap and he still supposedly needed some coaxing to make it happen...Thank Ares we didn't end up with Glass...
KevSkillz4
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BigDaddyLurch
Have some PRIDE, Eric...
...getting rid of Ghostioretty was a big win for the Habs...getting much more than we ever thought possible out of Tatar and now Suzuki is just gravy...
HuGort
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That was great deal. Bergevin made good moves. Got team to finals without lenghty rebuilding or sacrificing any prospects or draft picks.
Spring in Fialta
A malign star kept him
BigDaddyLurch
Have some PRIDE, Eric...
...well documented...playing dumb about the events doesn't mean they didn't happen...
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Carey Price did that, not Marc Bergevin
A good trade for both teams that could have ended up being fantastic for us if we traded Tatar during the 2020 trade deadline.
What a missed opportunity.
What a missed opportunity.
cphabs
The 2 stooges….
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I don’t know how many years ago it was, but I think RDS should also cover the Sergachev trade with the same fervor. Possibly pictures of Sergachev holding the Stanley Cup while Drouin is riding his stick in juniors?
Adam Michaels
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We don't know how it would go with Glass as a Hab. He's had some injury issues. Maybe he wouldn't have them if he was with Montreal because his fate would be different.
But Glass and Suzuki were having the same seasons in the WHL and OHL, respectively. Both regular season and playoffs were nearly identical.
If you go see their numbers in 2017-18, which was the season before the trade happened, you'll see that they had identical seasons.
Spring in Fialta
A malign star kept him
Specify. Support your argument, captain hindsight. Remember that the trade was made in 2018, not 2022.
It's both. Bergevin was a shit GM but give credit where credit is due. It was his team. Folks are weird.
26Mats
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Pacioretty was always a shooter, not a play driver.
Get rid of Radulov and replace him with Drouin as his center, or washed up Plekanec, or Danault with a grinder on the opposite wing, and Pacioretty is not going to produce.
I still think Pacioretty is good at what he does, including in the playoffs, as he proved in Vegas.
Milhouse40
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Since the trade, Pacioretty has:
97 goals and 97 assists during regular season
15 goals and 15 assists during the playoffs.
Numbers sometimes......
97 goals and 97 assists during regular season
15 goals and 15 assists during the playoffs.
Numbers sometimes......
BigDaddyLurch
Have some PRIDE, Eric...
...and everyone who's been here on this Board for over a couple months have seen us go over and over and over this...you know what happened, we all do; it's been rehashed on here almost as much as the Subban/Weber deal...Bargain Bin wanted Glass, McPhee wouldn't do it and offered Suzuki (and Tatar as a Cap dump to clear some space for Ghostioretty)...Timmins was supposedly instrumental in convincing Bargain to take the deal...and we all see how it worked out...Bargain Bin had this literally fall into his muscled-up lap and still needed convincing to take it...he was a pathetic GM...
Spring in Fialta
A malign star kept him
So Bergevin is an idiot for conferring with his right-hand man over two highly rated prospects in a trade involving his captain and best offensive winger? In a trade where the right decision was still made?
Do you hear yourself go?
BigDaddyLurch
Have some PRIDE, Eric...
...do you hear yourself again try and make this deal sound like a shrewd business deal when the reality is that it literally fell into his lap and he still needed to be convinced to take it??...we've done this dance before, amigo, and the song remains the same...it was NOT a Bargain Bin success story, it was a McPhee fail that Bargain still needed to be swayed into taking...the end...
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Odd to keep hearing his sleepy voice pimping Presti Construction.
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Catanddogguitarrr
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Before Suzuki, Tatar was welcome and all the fans were satisfied with him. Then Suzuki came and the love fest started.
The Gr8 Dane
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I think most habs fans still like and respect what Tatar brought to the team to this day even if it ended a little sour
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Tatar was an eminently likeable guy (and that meme glorifying him was epic, I have several versions).
However, we now have higher upside Slovaks on the roster.
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Spring in Fialta
A malign star kept him
I don't even think it was particularly shrewd. I think you're being ridiculous because the story behind a great trade isn't our GM bullying another one. It's a general problem with fans. They think a trade can only be great if someone was bent over for it.
Tomar Tatar was freaking awesome. He was our best forward from the moment we acquired him until Covid in 2020.
People can criticize him during the playoffs all they want but the whole team sucked when we were down 3-1 against Toronto.
I always felt he deserved a chance to redeem himself. He wasn't the only player that was playing bad until the comeback.
Really weird how all this went down. I honestly feel him not getting a contract while Gallagher got 6,5m heading into the 2020-2021 season played with his head.
Legend123
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He also wanted Reilly over Galchenyuk....sometimes shit just evens out
But let's be real.....NOBODY would've complained if we had acquired Glass instead of Suzuki....except those that have time travelled of course
