World Cup: 4 Nations Tournament- Team USA (2025)

[Deep Blue Metallic]

The NHL 2 weeks ago: Everyone hates the ASG. Maybe this 4 Nations thing will be better.

The NHL Today: Holy shit! It's gone viral. Who made up these roster rules? AAAARRRRGGGHHH!!!

 

[Curufinwe]

The league are obviously at fault for not allowing teams to carry a sufficient taxi squad for the inevitability of injury and illness.

The PA didn't want bigger squads. If they only have 18 healthy skaters, that's fine. You can only ice 18.

 

[William H Bonney]

The NHL 2 weeks ago: Everyone hates the ASG. Maybe this 4 Nations thing will be better.

The NHL Today: Holy shit! It's gone viral. Who made up these roster rules? AAAARRRRGGGHHH!!!

By god that's Bill Daly's music

 

[ORRFForever]

The problem is it could snow ball. Cirelli has been less than great. Why not fly in a fresh Mark Scheifele or Tom Wilson and say Cirelli is hurt?

Again, let Quinn be on the taxi squad and hope USA Hockey has enough integrity not to play games - Quinn should not be allowed to play / practice unless someone is genuinely injured.

 

[Bonin21]

The problem is it could snow ball. Cirelli has been less than great. Why not fly in a fresh Mark Scheifele or Tom Wilson and say Cirelli is hurt?

Do it. We want the best possible game.

 

[New User Name]

They did, his name is Quinn. He didn't arrive in time for yesterday's game. The rules don't state that was a requirement.

He couldn't have played yesterday if he was there. edit.....actually I think he could have because Austin and Matthew were out

 

[ORRFForever]

Do it. We want the best possible game.

No. Then the tournament becomes a joke.

Live with the rules like adults.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

No, it's inconsistent because Canada is allowed a bigger roster than anyone else.

...untrue...and it's been shown to you multiple times that it is untrue...so you're just spinning wheels in the mud, amigo...

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

The problem is it could snow ball. Cirelli has been less than great. Why not fly in a fresh Mark Scheifele or Tom Wilson and say Cirelli is hurt?

Again, let Quinn be on the taxi squad and hope USA Hockey has enough integrity not to play games - Quinn should not be allowed to play / practice unless someone is genuinely injured.

I think a subtle difference is that Scheifele and Wilson were legitimately passed over during selection. Everybody knows that Hughes would've been on the team if it wasn't for his injury status at the time. Not saying that it should hold weight, but I think it's worth noting.

 

[ORRFForever]

I think a subtle difference is that Scheifele and Wilson were legitimately passed over during selection. Everybody knows that Hughes would've been on the team if it wasn't for his injury status at the time. Not saying that it should hold weight, but I think it's worth noting.

I don't. The rules are the rules.

 

[AmericanDream]

Is it just me or is this headline brutal??

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I don't. The rules are the rules.

I didn't say it should change anything, just that it's not exactly the same as your presented scenario.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

I think a subtle difference is that Scheifele and Wilson were legitimately passed over during selection. Everybody knows that Hughes would've been on the team if it wasn't for his injury status at the time. Not saying that it should hold weight, but I think it's worth noting.

...so the difference is Hughes is a more valuable player...that's how rules should work??...

 

[ORRFForever]

Is it just me or is this headline brutal??View attachment 979008

What Charlie isn't telling you...

 

[New User Name]

Next time they do this just have a 30 player roster.

 

[AmericanDream]

I don't. The rules are the rules.

If players are hurt I don't care who you replace them with. Does an NHL team not have the option to call up whoever the hell they want in season?

As long as it meets the overall roster total it shouldn't matter. This would all be moot if they just went with a 25 man roster like we get every single year at the World Championships..

 

[ORRFForever]

I didn't say it should change anything, just that it's not exactly the same as your presented scenario.

The fact that he was on the originally roster should pull no weight - just like I don't think flying in Pietrangelo should be allowed.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

...so the difference is Hughes is a more valuable player...that's how rules should work??...

The difference is that we wouldn't be adding a player that we were freely able to select before, and didn't. We're not just correcting a poor roster decision.

And, by the way, I think that once Harley was brought in for Theodore, he should've now just been considered one of the 7 defensemen, freely able to play too, so this isn't just me siding with country.

But, I agree. Whatever the rules were when the whole thing started should be followed. I'm more commenting on the rules that were set up being dumb and not very well thought through.

 

[izlez]

Is it just me or is this headline brutal??View attachment 979008

Wow. You'd think a source like nhl.discussion would have a little more integrity and decorum

 

[Curufinwe]

Will be funny if Hughes aggravates his pre-existing issue and leaves the Final early.

 

[ORRFForever]

If players are hurt I don't care who you replace them with. Does an NHL team not have the option to call up whoever the hell they want in season?

As long as it meets the overall roster total it shouldn't matter. This would all be moot if they just went with a 25 man roster like we get every single year at the World Championships..

Most tournament have deadline - so teams don't fly in fresh players at the last minute. To me : The rules are the rules and it should not be allowed. The U.S. and Canada has 6 healthy D-Men and they should play.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

The difference is that we wouldn't be adding a player that we were freely able to select before, and didn't. We're not just correcting a poor roster decision.

And, by the way, I think that once Harley was brought in for Theodore, he should've now just been considered one of the 7 defensemen, freely able to play too, so this isn't just me siding with country.

But, I agree. Whatever the rules were when the whole thing started should be followed. I'm more commenting on the rules that were set up being dumb and not very well thought through.

...I totally agree that the "rules" were idiotic and a 25 man roster was the way to go...

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

The fact that he was on the originally roster should pull no weight - just like I don't think flying in Pietrangelo should be allowed.

I'm commenting more on the rules not being well thought out, not necessarily that they should be changed at this point in the tourney.

 

[Bonin21]

No. Then the tournament becomes a joke.

Live with the rules like adults.

Somebody is worried

 

[AmericanDream]

The fact that he was on the originally roster should pull no weight - just like I don't think flying in Pietrangelo should be allowed.

This isnt meant just for you but for overall my thoughts..

If a team is in the Stanley Cup playoffs, what happens roster wise? They expand. Teams add dozens of players within their organization to be eligible for the playoffs. Why on Earth is that OK and it isn't here? Every country should have access to their entire talent pool to be called upon whenever same as an NHL team can do in the playoffs.