World Cup: 4 Nations Tournament- Team USA (2025)

[Rabid Ranger]

Eichel and Guentzel also played well. But as a group it was a rough game without Matt Tkachuk and the pace was too much for some of them.

We needed Mike Modano jersey flapping flying up the ice. Seriously though, I would have moved Hughes to center. For the Olympics I think we need to think carefully about the forward group. Need more creativity/execution. Not sure who that would be though. Keller? Cooley? Maybe Patrick Kane if he has a strong start to the year next season? I would say Quinn Hughes will be a huge help.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

How can Devils fans expect to make a deep playoff run after watching that? He looked legitimately scared out there, bailing out of the hard areas and getting knocked on his ass all week.

He had a rough tournament but so did a lot of players on each team.

 

[Beerz]

We needed Mike Modano jersey flapping flying up the ice. Seriously though, I would have moved Hughes to center. For the Olympics I think we need to think carefully about the forward group. Need more creativity/execution. Not sure who that would be though. Keller? Cooley? Maybe Patrick Kane if he has a strong start to the year next season? I would say Quinn Hughes will be a huge help.

Idk.. I think they did alright getting puck up ice..as well as forechecking.... they just didn't bury their opportunities

 

[bigdog16]

Both teams were shorthanhded. Go for a walk.

You should go do a poll to rank Quinn Hughes, McAvoy, Matt Tkachuk, Josh Morrisey, Pietrangelo, and Theodore. The US omissions were significantly better than Canadas

Hahaha. I feel your pain. Sucks eh? Hell of a game but again the better team won.

I mean, look at the lineups. Canada was way better on paper. Its not like im shocked by the outcome

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Play Hughes at center or don’t bring him at all because his game does not lend itself to that area. Hes not direct or good enough on the walls to contribute at this level at the wing.

I’d swap Nelson for Tuch, and one or two of Keller, Tage, Robo.

You can't have Hughes play low in his own end he has to play wing.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Can someone explain the logic of sitting Kyle Connor? He doesn't look like much but the guy is an assassin. 2nd most goals in the league and you keep him out for Kreider? Huh?

He was invisible the games he played. Honestly I think if the game was at Little Ceasers Connor played. Sullivan played Kreider hoping for hometown game as Kreider grew up in Greater Boston. Kreider had absolutely no legs.

 

[notbias]

You should go do a poll to rank Quinn Hughes, McAvoy, Matt Tkachuk, Josh Morrisey, Pietrangelo, and Theodore. The US omissions were significantly better than Canadas

Tkachuk played.

Crosby was also injured according to the broadcast I watched... I am sure there were a lot more injuries that we didn't hear about, also some illnesses.

Maybe Tkachuk and McAvoy should have not gone 150% the first game and played a game that was too heavy for their body, this way they wouldn't have gotten injured.

Regardless, I think both teams are fairly evenly matched, not sure that the losses to the US are more important than the loss of 3 of Canada's D, but maybe it is.

Canada also left Scheifele at home for some reason.. Canada sucked at selecting their team this year and still got the results they wanted.

Who were the US replacements? Hanifin and Sanderson? I'd take them over Harley, Sanheim, and Parayko.

 

[Leonardo87]

Enough with the Politics. Thank you!

 

[Beerz]

I cheered against us to lose this game.

I'm all out of cookies.

Take a pat on the head?

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Canada was missing Morrissey... Makar missed a game.. Theodore injured in the 1st period of the 1st game. Pietrangelo dropped out before the tournament. Thats Canada's top 4 defensemen right there.


They can make a movie about the round robin win...

We are talking about last night, Makar played. Create a 6 man combined team and its Makar, Hughes, Werenski, Slavin, McAvoy and Morrissey.

That's #2 and #5 missing and you had only Morrissey. One thing is certain now barring injury Fox will be replaced by one of L. Hughes or Carlson.

Tkachuk played.

Crosby was also injured according to the broadcast I watched... I am sure there were a lot more injuries that we didn't hear about, also some illnesses.

Maybe Tkachuk and McAvoy should have not gone 150% the first game and played a game that was too heavy for their body, this way they wouldn't have gotten injured.

Regardless, I think both teams are fairly evenly matched, not sure that the losses to the US are more important than the loss of 3 of Canada's D, but maybe it is.

Canada also left Scheifele at home for some reason.. Canada sucked at selecting their team this year and still got the results they wanted.

Who were the US replacements? Hanifin and Sanderson? I'd take them over Harley, Sanheim, and Parayko.

Tkachuk played 6.5 minutes and Matthews is hurt also. Final analysis Canada
won the goaltending battle and therefore won the game.

 

[Cheapseats]

We are talking about last night, Makar played. Create a 6 man combined team and its Makar, Hughes, Werenski, Slavin, McAvoy and Morrissey.

That's #2 and #5 missing and you had only Morrissey. One thing is certain now barring injury Fox will be replaced by one of L. Hughes or Carlson.

Just indicating that the we were injured excuse holds little to no water here. Hell of a game. Im going to have a hard time watching the regular season now. Good luck at the Olympics!

 

[wasup]

Does anybody on here know if the olympics next year will be played on olympic size ice . If it is roster construction on both sides needs to be adjustied . You could already see players that had troubles keeping up and if on bigger ice would be even more noticable .

 

[bigdog16]

Tkachuk played.

Crosby was also injured according to the broadcast I watched... I am sure there were a lot more injuries that we didn't hear about, also some illnesses.

Maybe Tkachuk and McAvoy should have not gone 150% the first game and played a game that was too heavy for their body, this way they wouldn't have gotten injured.

Regardless, I think both teams are fairly evenly matched, not sure that the losses to the US are more important than the loss of 3 of Canada's D, but maybe it is.

Canada also left Scheifele at home for some reason.. Canada sucked at selecting their team this year and still got the results they wanted.

Who were the US replacements? Hanifin and Sanderson? I'd take them over Harley, Sanheim, and Parayko.

1. Tkachuk played 6 minutes. He was done after the 1st.

2. B Tkachuk had the flu according to the broadcast

3. Tkachuk was a groin injury, had nothing to do with “playing too hard”. The McAvoy injury was from him getting buried from behind in front of his net. Again, not a result of “playing too hard”

4. The US losses were undoubtedly more significant

5. US left Thompson at home in favor of Kreider and Brock Nelson

6. So you are saying the US is deeper

 

[notbias]

1. Tkachuk played 6 minutes. He was done after the 1st.

Shouldn't have played the round robin like it was the championship game.

2. B Tkachuk had the flu according to the broadcast

Makar was sick, others were playing injured, it happens all the time.

3. Tkachuk was a groin injury, had nothing to do with “playing too hard”. The McAvoy injury was from him getting buried from behind in front of his net. Again, not a result of “playing too hard”

Shouldn't play tough games if you are fragile, keep it more skilled, and don't ramp up the intensity if you are not built for it.

4. The US losses were undoubtedly more significant

3 of 6 D is pretty significant.

5. US left Thompson at home in favor of Kreider and Brock Nelson

"The Canadian players left at home were undoubtedly more significant"

6. So you are saying the US is deeper

I still think Canada B would beat US B, but we can say that Canada > US, but the US is deeper, sure.

 

[winnipegger]

He was invisible the games he played. Honestly I think if the game was at Little Ceasers Connor played. Sullivan played Kreider hoping for hometown game as Kreider grew up in Greater Boston. Kreider had absolutely no legs.

Pretty ignorant decision. Connor always looks like he's doing nothing and then he'll score 2 goals out of nowhere. There's very few players you want with the puck on their stick close in and he's one of them. Natural goal scorer. Terrible decision from Sullivan.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Shouldn't have played the round robin like it was the championship game.



Makar was sick, others were playing injured, it happens all the time.



Shouldn't play tough games if you are fragile, keep it more skilled, and don't ramp up the intensity if you are not built for it.



3 of 6 D is pretty significant.



"The Canadian players left at home were undoubtedly more significant"



I still think Canada B would beat US B, but we can say that Canada > US, but the US is deeper, sure.

MT pulled his groin attempting a spin o rama shot against Canada. Had nothing to do with any fight or check. At least get your facts straight on MT injury.

Canada won because Bin I from outplayed Hellebuyck and his save on BT in OT was
generational.

Pretty ignorant decision. Connor always looks like he's doing nothing and then he'll score 2 goals out of nowhere. There's very few players you want with the puck on their stick close in and he's one of them. Natural goal scorer. Terrible decision from Sullivan.

Yeah it was a bad choice but Connor did next to nothing in 3 games. One goal from him in the 3 games he would have played IMO.

 

[notbias]

MT pulled his groin attempting a spin o rama shot against Canada. Had nothing to do with any fight or check. At least get your facts straight on MT injury.

Fragile player, he seems to get injured and disappear during big games a lot.

Canada won because Bin I from outplayed Hellebuyck and his save on BT in OT was
generational.

Maybe the US should produce better goalies then, focus on that?

 

[winnipegger]

MT pulled his groin attempting a spin o rama shot against Canada. Had nothing to do with any fight or check. At least get your facts straight on MT injury.

Canada won because Bin I from outplayed Hellebuyck and his save on BT in OT was
generational.


Yeah it was a bad choice but Connor did next to nothing in 3 games. One goal from him in the 3 games he would have played IMO.

Lots of great players did next to nothing in 3 games but you don't typically base your decisions for the most important game only on 3 games. Sullivan should know Connor is 2nd in goals and maybe he should be out there when they need a goal. It's just ignorant, like if you demote ovechkin in game 4 of a playoff series because he hasn't scored yet.

 

[Summer Rose]

Does anybody on here know if the olympics next year will be played on olympic size ice . If it is roster construction on both sides needs to be adjustied . You could already see players that had troubles keeping up and if on bigger ice would be even more noticable .

Trying my best to search around but all I'm finding is that there are multiple construction delays on the venues that are planned to be used in next year's Olympics for the hockey tournaments (although also from what I've gathered searching around, that's par for the course in Italy - delays, delays, delays, but then they always get it done at the last minute). That said, since the host country is Italy, I would be very surprised if they used 85' wide ice surfaces. I don't think they'll be as wide as the maximum 31 meters, but probably somewhere in the 27-28 range. That, however, is just a guess.

 

[notsocommonsense]

We needed Mike Modano jersey flapping flying up the ice. Seriously though, I would have moved Hughes to center. For the Olympics I think we need to think carefully about the forward group. Need more creativity/execution. Not sure who that would be though. Keller? Cooley? Maybe Patrick Kane if he has a strong start to the year next season? I would say Quinn Hughes will be a huge help.

Q Hughes would make a massive difference for you guys. I’ve never seen a defenseman control the offensive zone like he does.

The U.S. forecheck was probably the BEST forecheck I’ve ever seen, just relentless. Need to find a better mix though with finishers. So much zone pressure from the U.S. with a lack of end result.

 

[bigdog16]

Fragile player, he seems to get injured and disappear during big games a lot.



Maybe the US should produce better goalies then, focus on that?

Yes fragile (won a Stanley Cup last year while leading his team in scoring). Definitely can't play in the big games...

 

[Joe Sakic]

How can Devils fans expect to make a deep playoff run after watching that? He looked legitimately scared out there, bailing out of the hard areas and getting knocked on his ass all week.

Thought the same exact thing the entire tournament.

Hughes looked terrible against the big dogs.

 

[Ratsreign]

Fragile player, he seems to get injured and disappear during big games a lot.

Obviously, someone hasn’t watched many Panthers playoff games over the last couple of years. Either that or your screen name may be a misnomer.

 

[notbias]

Obviously, someone hasn’t watched many Panthers playoff games over the last couple of years. Either that or your screen name may be a misnomer.

Didn't he have a broken sternum at some point? Fragile.

Yes fragile (won a Stanley Cup last year while leading his team in scoring). Definitely can't play in the big games...

And not getting a single Conn Smythe vote... anyway... he's been injured a lot in high stake series.

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

From a Michelin 3 Star feast of hockey to the watery, insipid gruel of being a Sabres' fan.

The Olympics can't come soon enough.