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GDT: 4 Nations Faceoff - CAN vs SWE 8pm ET - TV:TNT/TruTV/Max

DapperCam said:
I don't think I saw Karlsson out there either. Why put your 2 smoothest skating defenseman out there against the fastest players in the world?
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Well…I have reasons I wouldn’t play Karlsson in that spot. Hamming it up for two turnovers on the PP for starters.
 
My concern is that Dahlin's back tightened up and this tournament wears him out and he has to shut it down in the last third of the season. He is far and away the Sabres best skater.
 
Did Dahlin piss in Hallam's coffee? Criminally underutilized tonight.

Looked a bit tight first two shifts, but thought he had a superb defensive game thereafter. Stymied McDavid a few times while letting Gus see his shot from well out for easy saves.
 
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Chainshot said:
My concern is that Dahlin's back tightened up and this tournament wears him out and he has to shut it down in the last third of the season. He is far and away the Sabres best skater.
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Theodore out for the tournament and who' knows how long for Vegas. They are trying to follow other sports, but hockey is such a grind that's why it's a stupid, ill-timed tournament.
 
Willgamesh said:
You don't think any negotiations could have been done? and its justified to have no Olympics etc since 2014?
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I’m not sure it all falls on Bettman. It’s more of a pissing match between the IIHF and the NHL over who pays for what among other things. I’m hardly a fan of Bettman or how the NHL does things. But they have legit concerns when their top paid players leave mid season.
 
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Deep Blue Metallic said:
Did Dahlin piss in Hallam's coffee? Criminally underutilized tonight.

Looked a bit tight first two shifts, but thought he had a superb defensive game thereafter. Stymied McDavid a few times while letting Gus see his shot from well out for easy saves.
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You know you’re defending well when McDavid is dumping the puck in to get past you and not because he’s going off for a line change.
 
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joshjull said:
I’m not sure it all falls on Bettman. It’s more of a pissing match between the IIHF and the NHL over who pays for what among other things. I’m hardly a fan of Bettman or how the NHL does things. But they have legit concerns when their top paid players leave mid season.
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I think the concern should be hockey falling to irrelevance and failure to grow the game.
 
Deep Blue Metallic said:
Did Dahlin piss in Hallam's coffee? Criminally underutilized tonight.

Looked a bit tight first two shifts, but thought he had a superb defensive game thereafter. Stymied McDavid a few times while letting Gus see his shot from well out for easy saves.
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The number of times Hedman-Brodin got stuck on the ice because they couldn't break out against Canada's forecheck in the first period had all of the other pairs TOI suppressed. Then in the OT, Hedman again took a couple of enormous shifts because he couldn't get himself off the ice, including one of nearly 2 minutes where the Swedes were basically hemmed in the entire time. Looking at the ice time might seem like they leaned on Hedman. Watching the game, it was more him and his partner not being good.
 
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Chainshot said:
The number of times Hedman-Brodin got stuck on the ice because they couldn't break out against Canada's forecheck in the first period had all of the other pairs TOI suppressed. Then in the OT, Hedman again took a couple of enormous shifts because he couldn't get himself off the ice, including one of nearly 2 minutes where the Swedes were basically hemmed in the entire time. Looking at the ice time might seem like they leaned on Hedman. Watching the game, it was more him and his partner not being good.
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Hedman is 34, with plenty of miles on his tires. He looked slow and done against this level of opponent. His feeble attempt to break up the rush in the neutral zone on the 2nd goal needlessly created a 2-on-1 for Brodin. Just not a decision you want to see from your future HoF stud d-man.

Hopefully for Sweden Dahlin gets more ice time. I think he can give their backend a boost.
 
Deep Blue Metallic said:
Hedman is 34, with plenty of miles on his tires. He looked slow and done against this level of opponent. His feeble attempt to break up the rush in the neutral zone on the 2nd goal needlessly created a 2-on-1 for Brodin. Just not a decision you want to see from your future HoF stud d-man.

Hopefully for Sweden Dahlin gets more ice time. I think he can give their backend a boost.
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Swede hockey fans will point out that this is what their coaches do. They will overuse the vets and wonder why they are gassed.
 
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joshjull said:
I’m not sure it all falls on Bettman. It’s more of a pissing match between the IIHF and the NHL over who pays for what among other things. I’m hardly a fan of Bettman or how the NHL does things. But they have legit concerns when their top paid players leave mid season.
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The announced the world cup in 2026 I think, so whatever the motivation or problem, either the NHL isn't seeing this thing as a winner, or they sorted it out.
 
Deep Blue Metallic said:
He looked done in the 1st. It wasn't just him though. Canada was eating Sweden's smorgasbord in the neutral zone that entire period.
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Felt once they sorted their D out a bit things improved - Forsling-Dahlin and shuffling EK in beside Hedman improved their breakouts a lot in the 2nd period. Once they got up the ice, they did better at completing passes in the zone too. Didn't help when Zibby was just tossing pucks off into empty space a couple of times too.
 
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