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frightenedinmatenum2 said:
The trade worked out in the end, but unless you're arguing that Dorion knew he'd get Stutzle with the pick then it's irrelevant.
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I mean as a GM you trade and value picks because you believe your scouting staff can find you the right guys.

If you look around the league I bet most teams are kicking themselves for not drafting the way the Sens did in 2020.

In one draft we pulled four guys who are on our regular roster (Stützle, Sanderson, Greig, Kleven), and a goalie who seems like he might be our backup and/or starter of the future. The two missteps are really Jarventie and Sokolov. Out of seven rounds.

All that to say, you gotta count guys you draft with pocks acquired in a trade. You (the general you) would equally hold it *against* them if they spent those picks poorly.
 
darude said:
I mean as a GM you trade and value picks because you believe your scouting staff can find you the right guys.

If you look around the league I bet most teams are kicking themselves for not drafting the way the Sens did in 2020.

In one draft we pulled four guys who are on our regular roster (Stützle, Sanderson, Greig, Kleven), and a goalie who seems like he might be our backup and/or starter of the future. The two missteps are really Jarventie and Sokolov. Out of seven rounds.

All that to say, you gotta count guys you draft with pocks acquired in a trade. You (the general you) would equally hold it *against* them if they spent those picks poorly.
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Even Sokolov and Jarventie weren't that bad as picks. Sokolov had a footsteps problems but a very good skillset, his skating just didn't improve enough. Jarventie could still have a future but looks like another injury prone guy. Between Covid and injuries, he has missed a lot of development time.

I said it before, this draft was one of the best in NHL history and I started saying that in 2021 IIRC. Which makes me wonder why our 2021, 2022 and 2023 drafts were so terrible? And knowing we had some ability to draft good players (Batherson, Pinto, etc in recent past), why was Dorion dilapidating draft picks like it was worthless? So frustrating. Staios could do much more if we had a better pool and bank of picks
 
Watching last night its pretty clear the Sens are missing some top end talent..

Adding one player like Mark Stone or Brad Marchand,, not necessarily on top of the Team Canada star list , would give this team the boost it needs.
A never say die, give it all player that has the ability to turn it up and produce.

Should have backed up the truck for Stone and just given him everything he wanted
 
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Xspyrit said:
Even Sokolov and Jarventie weren't that bad as picks. Sokolov had a footsteps problems but a very good skillset, his skating just didn't improve enough. Jarventie could still have a future but looks like another injury prone guy. Between Covid and injuries, he has missed a lot of development time.

I said it before, this draft was one of the best in NHL history and I started saying that in 2021 IIRC. Which makes me wonder why our 2021, 2022 and 2023 drafts were so terrible? And knowing we had some ability to draft good players (Batherson, Pinto, etc in recent past), why was Dorion dilapidating draft picks like it was worthless? So frustrating. Staios could do much more if we had a better pool and bank of picks
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I had to look "dilapidating" up!
 
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Sens of Anarchy said:
What did we get for Stone again, that Dorion was so cheery about?
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Losing Stone is depressing.

We were gifted another Alfredsson, who probably would have stayed if we had any other owner, but Melnyk wouldn't sign him to a contract with market value terms. (Max length+NMC)

He isn't even a Senator anymore. That's not part of his legacy. We are somewhere he passed through. It's like Forsberg wearing a Flyers jersey on his rookie card. Nobody remembers him as part of the Flyers org'. While it's a bit of an exaggeration, it's mostly the same thing here. When it's all said and done, we're just a blip on his legacy.
 
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frightenedinmatenum2 said:
Losing Stone is depressing.

We were gifted another Alfredsson, who probably would have stayed if we had any other owner, but Melnyk wouldn't sign him to a contract with market value terms. (Max length+NMC)

He isn't even a Senator anymore. That's not part of his legacy. We are somewhere he passed through. It's like Forsberg wearing a Flyers jersey on his rookie card. Nobody remembers him as part of the Flyers org'. While it's a bit of an exaggeration, it's mostly the same thing here. When it's all said and done, we're just a blip on his legacy.
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just go with the vibe lol Or get us a replacement in your trade deals .. park the blip
 
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