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Beef Invictus

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Dec 21, 2009
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FLYERS: 17-17-4 (6th in Metro)
GOLDEN KNIGHTS: 25-9-3 (1st in Pacifo)


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FLYERS LINEUP

Scott Laughton - Morgan Frost - Matvei Michkov
Tyson Foerster - Noah Cates - Bobby Brink
Owen Tippett - Ryan Poehling - Travis Konecny
Joel Farabee - Sean Couturier - Garnet Hathaway

Travis Sanheim - Cam York
Egor Zamula - Rasmus Ristolainen
Nick Seeler - Jamie Drysdale

Kolosov
Fedotov

Injuries

Ersson (DTD)
Ellis (That I may know who these are, and what law/Makes them appear so ready to pass over,/As I discern athwart the dusky light.” )

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GOLDEN KNIGHTS LINEUP

Victor Olofsson - Jack Eichel - Mark Stone
Tomas Hertl - William Karlsson - Keegan Kolesar
Tanner Pearson - Brett Howden - Pavel Dorofeyev
Jonas Rondbjerg - Cole Schwindt - Alexander Holtz

Noah Hanifin - Alex Pietrangelo
Brayden McNabb - Shea Theodore
Nicolas Hague - Zach Whitecloud

Hill
Samsonov

Injuries

Roy (DTD)
Barbashev (DTD)
Hutton (IR)

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GDT SONG



STATS

5v5, On-Ice, Rates, Score & Venue Adjusted
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Last 3 Weeks
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Goalies
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Surely Fedotov deserves another crack at the can by now? Kolosov has completely stunk it up in his last several starts.

Knowing this coach, even if he loses 3-2 and faced 28 shots, he would be sat for the next 3 games for Kolosov who would give up an average of 4 goals in those 3 games. Not saying Fedotov is the fix for this, but the current outlook is so bad, why not just try?
 

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Knowing this coach, even if he loses 3-2 and faced 28 shots, he would be sat for the next 3 games for Kolosov who would give up an average of 4 goals in those 3 games. Not saying Fedotov is the fix for this, but the current outlook is so bad, why not just try?
They signed the guy to a two year contract for 3+M a year because they had to have him.
 

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They signed the guy to a two year contract for 3+M a year because they had to have him.
It was a solid move to sign him and bring him over. A little overpaid though maybe that was the cost of doing business at the time. Short term deal that will not hurt the future at all.

Now if you want to question their pro scouting that is very valid. Seems like they may have bailed on him a tad early. To keep him on the bench the last few weeks doesn't help him or the team. When he does get into a game what can one realistically expect?
 

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It was a solid move to sign him and bring him over. A little overpaid though maybe that was the cost of doing business at the time. Short term deal that will not hurt the future at all.

Now if you want to question their pro scouting that is very valid. Seems like they may have bailed on him a tad early. To keep him on the bench the last few weeks doesn't help him or the team. When he does get into a game what can one realistically expect?
What makes it a solid move? They overpaid for an unproven player who right now is the 3rd goalie on the depth chart. Hasn't shown to be a player that is worth that contract. It's a indictment on their judgement. I think it should be expected that he plays to the level of a goalie payed 3+M a year. To this point, it's just another example of their poor judgement.
 

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What makes it a solid move? They overpaid for an unproven player who right now is the 3rd goalie on the depth chart. Hasn't shown to be a player that is worth that contract. It's a indictment on their judgement. I think it should be expected that he plays to the level of a goalie payed 3+M a year. To this point, it's just another example of their poor judgement.
He had good career in Russia. They had a need for a goalie. It was a risk worth taking. Or do you disagree and why? At the time do you think it was a solid move?

I said you can question their scouting on it. I said he was overpaid. Of course, he was unproven as he played in a different league. Aren’t all draft picks unproven to an extent? This is the type of move they should make. Short term deals to see if they can play at the NHL level.
 
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It was a solid move to sign him and bring him over. A little overpaid though maybe that was the cost of doing business at the time. Short term deal that will not hurt the future at all.

Now if you want to question their pro scouting that is very valid. Seems like they may have bailed on him a tad early. To keep him on the bench the last few weeks doesn't help him or the team. When he does get into a game what can one realistically expect?

What does pro scouting have to do with your own player?
 
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He had good career in Russia. They had a need for a goalie. It was a risk worth taking. Or do you disagree and why? At the time do you think it was a solid move?

I said you can question their scouting on it. I said he was overpaid. Of course, he was unproven as he played in a different league. Aren’t all draft picks unproven to an extent? This is the type of move they should make. Short term deals to see if they can play at the NHL level.

Fedotov was a PR move, for an org obsessed with optics.
 
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He had good career in Russia. They had a need for a goalie. It was a risk worth taking. Or do you disagree and why? At the time do you think it was a solid move?

I said you can question their scouting on it. I said he was overpaid. Of course, he was unproven as he played in a different league. Aren’t all draft picks unproven to an extent? This is the type of move they should make. Short term deals to see if they can play at the NHL level.
Wait a minute in the other thread you said we couldn't make indictments on the org based upon things that happened in the past in regards to player injuries, but now you cite Fedotovs past quality of play in a league that wasn't the NHL (or any north American league) we are supposed to believe it was a solid move?

Move along everyone just another bad faith poster.
 
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Wait a minute in the other thread you said we couldn't make indictments on the org based upon things that happened in the past in regards to player injuries, but now you cite Fedotovs past quality of play in a league that wasn't the NHL (or any north American league) we are supposed to believe it was a solid move?

Move along everyone just another bad faith poster.
What do past injuries under previous head coaches have to do with signing Fedotov? Don’t even know what point your trying to make. One has nothing to do with the other.

Fedotov was a PR move, for an org obsessed with optics.
You do not think Fedotov deserved a contract? What was there to lose by signing him? what is/was the downside?
 

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What do past injuries under previous head coaches have to do with signing Fedotov? Don’t even know what point your trying to make. One has nothing to do with the other.


You do not think Fedotov deserved a contract? What was there to lose by signing him? what is/was the downside?
Just seems convenient that you can ignore past history for one thing but not for another when evaluating decisions. Seems foolish to ignore how an organization has handled its injured players in the past, as well as a players injury history.

You said it was a risk to take a gamble on Fedotov but quoted it was worth taking given his performance in the KHL (a league inferior to the NHL) and then asked if this was a solid move at the time. A solid move would have been signing a proven and capable goaltender. They took the risk and it hasn't worked out so far (maybe Fedotov gets better).
 
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What do past injuries under previous head coaches have to do with signing Fedotov? Don’t even know what point your trying to make. One has nothing to do with the other.


You do not think Fedotov deserved a contract? What was there to lose by signing him? what is/was the downside?

No I wouldn’t have given a goalie that player beer league a multi million dollar contract for multiple years.

Not when they should have known Kolosov was iffy about playing time already.

If they wanted a language buddy for Michkov there were other options.
 

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Just seems convenient that you can ignore past history for one thing but not for another when evaluating decisions. Seems foolish to ignore how an organization has handled its injured players in the past, as well as a players injury history.

You said it was a risk to take a gamble on Fedotov but quoted it was worth taking given his performance in the KHL (a league inferior to the NHL) and then asked if this was a solid move at the time. A solid move would have been signing a proven and capable goaltender. They took the risk and it hasn't worked out so far (maybe Fedotov gets better).
What does the Flyers history of medical evaluations have to do with wanting to sign Fedotov? They are 2 totally different situations. One can ignore it.

Yes, it was a gamble. As is signing any of your draft picks. One can argue they should have signed a vet NHL goalie. That doesn’t mean signing Fedotov wasn’t a solid move. Again no/little risk. Hasn’t worked out at all so far, no doubt.

Reading many post that posters want them to get the best draft pick possible. Yet will complain they signed an unproven goalie who will help with getting that pick. You want them to rebuild or try to make the playoffs?
 

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