GDT: #36 - 12/23/2019 | RANGERS @ flyers | 7:00 - MSG2, NBCSN

[Rempe73]

Why do hockey fans criticize players who lack finish more than players who don't generate offense at all?

Well, don’t goals matter more than possession? Ideally you want both in a player, but I think that’s the reason.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Are you sure you're a Rangers fan?

By generating offense, I mean offensive zone pressure and decent looks. It’s turning those decent looks into goals that’s tough.

 

[effen]

We stand in a square formation on the PP and pass on the outside, never making the other team skate. So gross.

honestly they just replaced Zuccarello with Panarin and the 'play' is "do something 1-on-1 or 1-on-2 or 1-on-3 while we stand in place"

they've looked like this since Gaborik.

 

[Black Aces]

I miss Kevin Hayes.

At that price I dont.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Are NYers on the Versus feed or msg

 

[Mac n Gs]

By generating offense, I mean offensive zone pressure and decent looks. It’s turning those decent looks into goals that’s tough.

Sure, but just generating that pressure alone and forcing the other team to play defense is inherently more valuable than the guy that doesn't generate anything at all. That's what @Machinehead is getting at.

 

[LORDE]

Hank playing great

 

[Raspewtin]

I would really like to see Lemieux more on the PK

 

[HonestGabe]

Have to have the first one here.

 

[Machinehead]

Well, don’t goals matter more than possession? Ideally you want both in a player, but I think that’s the reason.

Not really, unless you can consistently finish at an absurd rate but we're talking about world class offensive players.

By generating offense, I mean offensive zone pressure and decent looks. It’s turning those decent looks into goals that’s tough.

Yes, and the Rangers have like three forwards who are above average at that.

 

[effen]

the PK just skates at the guy with the puck, stops 5 feet short, and stands there. Zero actual pressure, players instantly figure it out. STOP DOING THAT. HIT THEM YOU SISSIES

 

[mike14]

Feel like I'm watching a game from around 2010. It's Hank and a bunch of crap....

 

[MyLoveIsBlue]

Nice pass Fox

 

[ReddestRum]

Lol. WTF. Guys are surprising each other with passes.

 

[Rempe73]

Our power play guys just have no confidence anymore. Everyone looks so scared for some reason. It seems like every team we play has an elite PK during that time.

 

[effen]

Rangers actually cycle for the first time 14.5 minutes into the game. Including 1 min of a 5-on-3. I guess that's progress.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Sure, but just generating that pressure alone and forcing the other team to play defense is inherently more valuable than the guy that doesn't generate anything at all. That's what @Machinehead is getting at.

My point is offensive zone pressure doesn’t win games, goals do. It means nothing if theres heavy zone time but we don’t score.

 

[Rempe73]

More Fox-ADA please

 

[Raspewtin]

get this f***ing garbage 4th line off the ice my god

 

[HonestGabe]

It really is amazing how calm I feel when Adam Fox is on the ice. He almost always makes the correct play and with incredible poise. And he's 21 years old.

 

[HonestGabe]

Is it crazy to believe this team actually could make the playoffs if it had an actual 4th line?

 

[effen]

ahh more 5-on-5 PK

 

[Mac n Gs]

My point is offensive zone pressure doesn’t win games, goals do. It means nothing if theres heavy zone time but we don’t score.

Sure, and you're going to consistently win games if you're consistently generating more offensive zone possession than the other team. The other team can't score on you if they don't have the puck

 

[Rempe73]

Not really, unless you can consistently finish at an absurd rate but we're talking about world class offensive players.

Yes, and the Rangers have like three forwards who are above average at that.

I see what you’re saying. And I think I agree.

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Way to break the other team out Buch.