Prospect Info: 2nd Round Kings Pick #60 Defenseman Alex Lintuniemi

[Raccoon Jesus]

I don't think Futa is let off the hook. Regardless of who he's expected to target, he's got to perform. Whether that's DL wanting size and character, or Blake wanting speed and skill.

Look at the Amadio pick. That's a solid pick in the 3rd if you are looking for size, two-way play, and leadership. The problem was DL was out of touch with where the league was headed. A smaller, highly skilled guy like Point who was taken in the 3rd round probably wasn't on their radar. It wasn't just the Kings, lots of teams were still looking for size at the time.

Between 2011-2016, seven players 6' and under were taken. There's been seven 6' under guys taken in the last two drafts alone. There's been an obvious shift in philosophy that was implemented right away, and at least the team appears to be looking at guys as a whole and not worrying if they are massive or not.

Ok, but how many people passed on point multiple times? It's the Tom Brady thing--"if we were so smart, why did we take him so late?"

Also Amadio was top-10 in his league in scoring in that year, while Brayden Point was not. Painting Amadio as some two-way plug isn't honest. The guy was one of only four 50 goal scorers that year and he did it on a crap team with little help.

Mike Amadio isn't a good flashpoint for this type of analysis. His offensive abilities and explosive growth from year to year have carried over to every league EXCEPT this years version of the Kings, a version which finds a 92 point scorer on a 30 point pace. Everyone sucks right now and I wish people would stop trying to do genuine player evaluations using this season as THE sample. I mean, he went down and played ONE AHL game and got three points.

 

[Fishhead]

Ok, but how many people passed on point multiple times? It's the Tom Brady thing--"if we were so smart, why did we take him so late?"

Also Amadio was top-10 in his league in scoring in that year, while Brayden Point was not. Painting Amadio as some two-way plug isn't honest. The guy was one of only four 50 goal scorers that year and he did it on a crap team with little help.

Mike Amadio isn't a good flashpoint for this type of analysis. His offensive abilities and explosive growth from year to year have carried over to every league EXCEPT this years version of the Kings, a version which finds a 92 point scorer on a 30 point pace. Everyone sucks right now and I wish people would stop trying to do genuine player evaluations using this season as THE sample. I mean, he went down and played ONE AHL game and got three points.

That's why I mentioned it wasn't only the Kings, outside of a few teams Point wouldn't really be on the radar. At the time everyone was still trying to catch the Kings by fighting fire with fire.

I'm 110% on the Amadio bandwagon, I fully think he's going to live up to billing and like you stated he's just sucking along with the pack right now. That said, he's never been as dynamic as Point and I wouldn't really compare them. He had the one fantastic 98 point season, yea, but right before both were drafted Amadio had a 38 point season while Point had a 91 point one. Amadio was around .85 ppg and a +72 in Juniors while Point was 1.29 ppg and a -10. The main point I guess I was trying to make is that the Kings under DL would obviously target Amadio there, where under Blake I think Point would get more interest. I do think Futa bears some responsibility for the poor drafting, but it's hard to say how much as no one really knows what the drafting strategy of the organization as a whole was.

 

[Sol]

I'm probably in the minority but I am really starting to doubt Futa, short of a very few good ones...the majority has been pretty bad

All the hype and love, with nothing to show for it.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

That's why I mentioned it wasn't only the Kings, outside of a few teams Point wouldn't really be on the radar. At the time everyone was still trying to catch the Kings by fighting fire with fire.

I'm 110% on the Amadio bandwagon, I fully think he's going to live up to billing and like you stated he's just sucking along with the pack right now. That said, he's never been as dynamic as Point and I wouldn't really compare them. He had the one fantastic 98 point season, yea, but right before both were drafted Amadio had a 38 point season while Point had a 91 point one. Amadio was around .85 ppg and a +72 in Juniors while Point was 1.29 ppg and a -10. The main point I guess I was trying to make is that the Kings under DL would obviously target Amadio there, where under Blake I think Point would get more interest. I do think Futa bears some responsibility for the poor drafting, but it's hard to say how much as no one really knows what the drafting strategy of the organization as a whole was.

I agree with that too. It's hard to say but there's certainly an organizational shift to some degree and I personally believe Futa's drafting was heavily influenced by DL's vision.

However, I have several major beefs with the "kings suck at drafting" meme beyond the lack of picks and DL's vision that I always refer to.

1. The Kings HAVE taken swings at skilled guys as well, they just haven't struck gold with a Point, Gaudreau. Frankly not many teams have, but the common thought around here seems to suggest that every org is loading up on skilled guys in the third round and beyond when that's just not the case. We've taken swings at 'small skill' guys like Weal, Kozun, Azevedo, even Watson. We've taken swings at skilled russians like Prokhorkin. Yet Dwight King had a better NHL career than any of them, because you need some diversity, and yet people will slam picks like that.

2. There is a growing meme around here that all you have to do is draft skill and you auto-win but there are 30 teams a year that prove that wrong to some degree. This org has developed 'effective NHLers' at a greater degree than most other franchises. Now you DEFINITELY need some home runs in there too, but for a while, we didn't need that as we had Carter, Kopitar, Doughty, et. al. and simply needed to supplement them. And it's incredibly hard to get those guys outside the 1st...which aforementioned lack of picks etc.

3. The last two drafts have started to signal a shift in philosophy bigtime and early looks have very favorable reviews. It's too early to fist pump, but it's also too early to criticize for the folks who want to doom and gloom the pipeline.

4. In this particular case, Lintuniemi was ALWAYS going to be a swing, and I find it ass backwards that people criticize on one hand the lack of home run picks then on the other criticize home run swings.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I agree with that too. It's hard to say but there's certainly an organizational shift to some degree and I personally believe Futa's drafting was heavily influenced by DL's vision.

However, I have several major beefs with the "kings suck at drafting" meme beyond the lack of picks and DL's vision that I always refer to.

1. The Kings HAVE taken swings at skilled guys as well, they just haven't struck gold with a Point, Gaudreau. Frankly not many teams have, but the common thought around here seems to suggest that every org is loading up on skilled guys in the third round and beyond when that's just not the case. We've taken swings at 'small skill' guys like Weal, Kozun, Azevedo, even Watson. We've taken swings at skilled russians like Prokhorkin. Yet Dwight King had a better NHL career than any of them, because you need some diversity, and yet people will slam picks like that.

2. There is a growing meme around here that all you have to do is draft skill and you auto-win but there are 30 teams a year that prove that wrong to some degree. This org has developed 'effective NHLers' at a greater degree than most other franchises. Now you DEFINITELY need some home runs in there too, but for a while, we didn't need that as we had Carter, Kopitar, Doughty, et. al. and simply needed to supplement them. And it's incredibly hard to get those guys outside the 1st...which aforementioned lack of picks etc.

3. The last two drafts have started to signal a shift in philosophy bigtime and early looks have very favorable reviews. It's too early to fist pump, but it's also too early to criticize for the folks who want to doom and gloom the pipeline.

4. In this particular case, Lintuniemi was ALWAYS going to be a swing, and I find it ass backwards that people criticize on one hand the lack of home run picks then on the other criticize home run swings.

RJ,

The problem is, you are talking to what 50 people that can do it better......that and this is what the board does....

 

[KingsCourt]

I think this has gotten off track...I don't believe anyone here believes they can do better than the current staff...but again it's not my job to scout and develop hockey players.

Dealing picks for those couple of years was beyond dumb and has cost the kings dearly, no one is questioning that.

Food for thought, since 2010, only two players (Toffoli and Pearson) drafted have made a meaningful difference on the team...limited difference at best.

Give credit for signing Muzzin/Jones/Petersen(too early)

 

[Fishhead]

I agree that not many drafted players have made an impact, but I wouldn't call Toffoli and Pearson's contributions limited in any way. Toffoli has been mostly a 50 point guy here, in the systems we had that's pretty damn good. TT had 14 points in 26 playoff games in the 2014 run and Pearson 12 in 24, that's pretty significant. Not to mention we might not win the cup without those two making a really nice play vs. SJ in that game 7.

Yea drafting hasn't been great lately (mainly because of trading clips) and you could probably go all the way back to 2008 with the same point, but calling their impact a limited difference might not be giving the proper credit where it's due.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I agree that not many drafted players have made an impact, but I wouldn't call Toffoli and Pearson's contributions limited in any way. Toffoli has been mostly a 50 point guy here, in the systems we had that's pretty damn good. TT had 14 points in 26 playoff games in the 2014 run and Pearson 12 in 24, that's pretty significant. Not to mention we might not win the cup without those two making a really nice play vs. SJ in that game 7.

Yea drafting hasn't been great lately (mainly because of trading clips) and you could probably go all the way back to 2008 with the same point, but calling their impact a limited difference might not be giving the proper credit where it's due.

An in-house 4th-rounder is our WCF goal scoring record holder.
An in-house 4th rounder is our goal-scoring 2OT SCF winner, assists to two in-house 2nd rounders. He also won the WCF in Game 7 OT.
An in-house 2nd rounder got the goal scoring started in the 2014 Cup final.
The list goes on.

People can minimize the players, but they'll never be able to minimize the impacts. LOTS of our drafted players have had NHL impacts, they just aren't crazy producers.

 

[King'sPawn]

An in-house 4th-rounder is our WCF goal scoring record holder.
An in-house 4th rounder is our goal-scoring 2OT SCF winner, assists to two in-house 2nd rounders. He also won the WCF in Game 7 OT.
An in-house 2nd rounder got the goal scoring started in the 2014 Cup final.
The list goes on.

People can minimize the players, but they'll never be able to minimize the impacts. LOTS of our drafted players have had NHL impacts, they just aren't crazy producers.

I agree with you as a whole. Of the four stations (coaching, development, players, scouting), I am least concerned with scouting.

I do think scouting can still be improved, however. And I'm just not sure if it's a lack of talent/infrastructure or a lack of resources.

But I think the Kings don't have good connections in Russia if they keep picking players who stay in Russia or get deployed to play less than 5 minutes a game. They also draft very little out of the QMJHL. I know it's not as popular as the other leagues, but they last drafted out of there in 2013 (Zykov). That's five drafts and zero picks out of the Q. The five drafts prior (from 2009-2013), they made five picks out of the league (Zykov, Hyka, Deslauriers, Gibson, Berube).

Please note I'm not advocating they just pick players out of there to make me happy. I just have concerns with whether or not they have enough people, or if they have narrowed the scope of how they are finding players.

 

[Sol]

Is it honestly surprising to people that we expected the Kings to draft better than this shit? Lack of great picks cause they traded a good amount of picks and dicked around with the ones they had left.

Yeah the Kings suck but my God the revisionist history is insane here.

Everyone was harping on DL when the Kings were crashing down because of his creations. And suddenly we're looking back with rose glasses.


Futa and Co are extremly overrated. That's that.

If half of what the revisionists here are saying had some validity to it then the Kings wouldn't be dead last right now.

 

[Reaper45]

I agree with you as a whole. Of the four stations (coaching, development, players, scouting), I am least concerned with scouting.

I do think scouting can still be improved, however. And I'm just not sure if it's a lack of talent/infrastructure or a lack of resources.

But I think the Kings don't have good connections in Russia if they keep picking players who stay in Russia or get deployed to play less than 5 minutes a game. They also draft very little out of the QMJHL. I know it's not as popular as the other leagues, but they last drafted out of there in 2013 (Zykov). That's five drafts and zero picks out of the Q. The five drafts prior (from 2009-2013), they made five picks out of the league (Zykov, Hyka, Deslauriers, Gibson, Berube).

Please note I'm not advocating they just pick players out of there to make me happy. I just have concerns with whether or not they have enough people, or if they have narrowed the scope of how they are finding players.

What's funny is that they rarely pick from the Q but the guys they do pick have all ended up playing in the NHL.

 

[Fishhead]

Is it honestly surprising to people that we expected the Kings to draft better than this ****? Lack of great picks cause they traded a good amount of picks and dicked around with the ones they had left.

Yeah the Kings suck but my God the revisionist history is insane here.

Everyone was harping on DL when the Kings were crashing down because of his creations. And suddenly we're looking back with rose glasses.


Futa and Co are extremly overrated. That's that.

If half of what the revisionists here are saying had some validity to it then the Kings wouldn't be dead last right now.

You crazy Sol. I don't know if i would call the scouting overrated. When they've had a good amount of picks in decent spots, they've scored on quite a lot of them.

Martinez, King, Voynov, Nolan, Doughty, Clifford, Toffoli, Pearson - all home grown who had contributions.

Simmonds, Schenn - used to get Richards.

Voynov was good enough to move JJ for Carter.

Scouting had a huge part in that cup window.

Between 2007 (Futa hired) and 2012, when the cup window opened, the Kings drafted 46 players. 30 of them made the NHL. That's a 65% hit rate and pretty f***ing impressive. Anaheim is a damn good drafting team, one of the best for sure - and they were 60% over that same period. More impressive? The Kings had 20 picks in the top 3 rounds, with 6 1st rounders during those years. Anaheim had 25 in the top 3 rounds and 8 first rounders. Take out the first year when the new scouting guys didn't have a lot of time to prepare and it jumps to almost 70%. That's bonkers right there.

For about a 6 year period there, no one was better than the Kings with regards to identifying NHL talent and grabbing players who could contribute. Unsurprisingly that ended when we started trading picks like candy. Contrast that with the last 6 years where the Kings have only had 15 picks in the top 3 rounds and 3 first rounders.

The scouting department should be held accountable as much as anyone else, but overrated? No way.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I wish we could name more recent names as examples of recent draft success versus guys drafted almost a decade ago. That would be nice.

 

[kings11]

I wish we could name more recent names as examples of recent draft success versus guys drafted almost a decade ago. That would be nice.

Last 5 Drafts
Adrian Kempe
Michael Amadio
Austin Wagner
Roland Mckeown
Erik Cernak... looks really good
JAD
Coming soon
Gabriel Vilardi
Rasmus Kupari
Michael Anderson
Kale Clague
FAs
Daniel Brickley
Cal Petersen
Alex Iafallo

So the scouting has been really good.. it’s just the lack of those top picks that damaged the pipeline

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I like the recent newcomers, but some of the above listed names are a real stretch to include on a list of very good selections when we don’t even know if they’ll be NHLers quite yet.

The only draft pick in the pre-Blake era from that list who’s been a regular is Kempe. The dry spell this organization went through in bringing up any players who could play important roles hasn’t helped the team.

 

[damacles1156]

I like the recent newcomers, but some of the above listed names are a real stretch to include on a list of very good selections when we don’t even know if they’ll be NHLers quite yet.

The only draft pick in the pre-Blake era from that list who’s been a regular is Kempe. The dry spell this organization went through in bringing up any players who could play important roles hasn’t helped the team.

If we keep bringing up these kids without proper AHL development it's going to get ugly.

 

[Fishhead]

I wish we could name more recent names as examples of recent draft success versus guys drafted almost a decade ago. That would be nice.

I agree, but it's early on them. The real telling picks are going to be Vilardi, Clague, JAD, and Kupari. Those guys were taken after they shifted philosophy and will give a good indicator if they can locate a different type of talent than before.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I agree, but it's early on them. The real telling picks are going to be Vilardi, Clague, JAD, and Kupari. Those guys were taken after they shifted philosophy and will give a good indicator if they can locate a different type of talent than before.

Yep, those are the names who stand out who could be impact players in the near future.

Trying to think of how many of those young players under 23 on entry level contracts who’ve made an impact on the Kings, there haven’t been any in a long while.

 

[kings11]

Yep, those are the names who stand out who could be impact players in the near future.

Trying to think of how many of those young players under 23 on entry level contracts who’ve made an impact on the Kings, there haven’t been any in a long while.

This is were the patience with Vilardi’s back Is crucial.. the kid is a game changer when healthy and would fit perfectly on Carter’s wing with Kovy on the other. JAD from what little I saw belonged when he was up and I would be disappointed is he doesn’t stick next season but the kid that has my attention is Kupari, boy is he Uber fast and skilled! Went from being a 5-10,160 lb kid to a 6-1 - 6-2, 190lb man and it shows this season.. and he was projected to be a top 10 guy before he “struggled” with his growth spurt. Adding a few inches is pretty normal but the 20+ lbs definitely took him time to adjust.

 

[Sol]

You crazy Sol. I don't know if i would call the scouting overrated. When they've had a good amount of picks in decent spots, they've scored on quite a lot of them.

Martinez, King, Voynov, Nolan, Doughty, Clifford, Toffoli, Pearson - all home grown who had contributions.

Simmonds, Schenn - used to get Richards.

Voynov was good enough to move JJ for Carter.

Scouting had a huge part in that cup window.

Between 2007 (Futa hired) and 2012, when the cup window opened, the Kings drafted 46 players. 30 of them made the NHL. That's a 65% hit rate and pretty ****ing impressive. Anaheim is a damn good drafting team, one of the best for sure - and they were 60% over that same period. More impressive? The Kings had 20 picks in the top 3 rounds, with 6 1st rounders during those years. Anaheim had 25 in the top 3 rounds and 8 first rounders. Take out the first year when the new scouting guys didn't have a lot of time to prepare and it jumps to almost 70%. That's bonkers right there.

For about a 6 year period there, no one was better than the Kings with regards to identifying NHL talent and grabbing players who could contribute. Unsurprisingly that ended when we started trading picks like candy. Contrast that with the last 6 years where the Kings have only had 15 picks in the top 3 rounds and 3 first rounders.

The scouting department should be held accountable as much as anyone else, but overrated? No way.

They are definitely overrated if that's all they have to show for it in a span of an eternity. Martinez is ancient at this point as we as Clifford.

Voynov, Toffoli, Martinez, Schenn, Simmonds.

The fact this is the cream of the crop of the Kings drafting in a span of an eternity is a problem.


Clague failed to impress, Kupari just drafted though doing real solid , Vilardi barely healthy. Petersen and Brickley are just new additions..


Tell me how could anyone rave about the Kings inability to draft a game changer? The last game changer that was on the Kings roster via draft was Voynov. Let that sink in.


Everyone will continue to suck off the Scouting dept for whatever reason maybe cause Futa has an interesting sounding name, there's no other reason why anyone should say they're good. At best, mediocre.


Want to know the fact that proves this? Check out the standings.

Kempe playing third line. Amadio barely getting ice. Must be amazing to rave about bottom 6 players, and yes they have potential but obviously aren't hitting it yet.

Last 5 Drafts
Adrian Kempe
Michael Amadio
Austin Wagner
Roland Mckeown
Erik Cernak... looks really good
JAD
Coming soon
Gabriel Vilardi
Rasmus Kupari
Michael Anderson
Kale Clague
FAs
Daniel Brickley
Cal Petersen
Alex Iafallo

So the scouting has been really good.. it’s just the lack of those top picks that damaged the pipeline

From the last 5 drafts only Amadio and Kempe are the ones consistently in the line up.


Come on.


Theyve drafted better lately, but let that sink in for a moment. And from the "last five drafts" Kempe is third line, and amadio 4th or sent down.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I like the recent newcomers, but some of the above listed names are a real stretch to include on a list of very good selections when we don’t even know if they’ll be NHLers quite yet.

The only draft pick in the pre-Blake era from that list who’s been a regular is Kempe. The dry spell this organization went through in bringing up any players who could play important roles hasn’t helped the team.

The problem with the current situation is there's a very clear black hole from the end of DL's tenure and the guys from the most recent 2-3 drafts it's too soon to tell. So of course it's going to look like 5 years of failure when really it's impossible to fairly evaluate the last couple of drafts even though they're getting held against as a detriment when we do these criticisms. I don't think it's fair to have it both ways--say we don't have anyone on the roster from the last two drafts on one hand, but praise the picks of the most recent draftees as well. Unless you truly think that none of Kupari, Thomas, Shafigullin, Dudas, Hrenak, Sodergran, Ingham, Vilardi, JAD, Villalta, Anderson, Phillips, Hults, Rymsha, Clague, Moverare, Eyssimont will make even a dent in the NHL, in which case that's an extreme minority opinion as even some of the most haterade talking heads have praised those picks. Using Colin Miller as a flashpoint, people are like "Lol kings can't draft" in one breath then complain that he's playing well elsewhere in the next. It's maddening. This isn't so much at you as at the general attitude, you've been very consistent in your critique.

They are definitely overrated if that's all they have to show for it in a span of an eternity. Martinez is ancient at this point as we as Clifford.

Voynov, Toffoli, Martinez, Schenn, Simmonds.

The fact this is the cream of the crop of the Kings drafting in a span of an eternity is a problem.


Clague failed to impress, Kupari just drafted though doing real solid , Vilardi barely healthy. Petersen and Brickley are just new additions..


Tell me how could anyone rave about the Kings inability to draft a game changer? The last game changer that was on the Kings roster via draft was Voynov. Let that sink in.


Everyone will continue to suck off the Scouting dept for whatever reason maybe cause Futa has an interesting sounding name, there's no other reason why anyone should say they're good. At best, mediocre.


Want to know the fact that proves this? Check out the standings.

Kempe playing third line. Amadio barely getting ice. Must be amazing to rave about bottom 6 players, and yes they have potential but obviously aren't hitting it yet.


From the last 5 drafts only Amadio and Kempe are the ones consistently in the line up.


Come on.


Theyve drafted better lately, but let that sink in for a moment. And from the "last five drafts" Kempe is third line, and amadio 4th or sent down.

Overrated, mediocre scouting departments don't win multiple cups with an almost entirely homegrown team with only one signed UFA in Mitchell, the other pieces which were traded for from within. The end.

Our current situation is due to a purge of interior assets more than anything, and if you have any faith in our recent acquisitions--which you clearly do evidenced by your ongoing love affair with our non-Quick goalies--then you'll have to begrudgingly admit that they're actually good when they have chips to work with.

Can they improve? absolutely, They can learn and adjust. Anyone can and should. But calling them overrated, lmao. By any metric they produce a ton of nhlers, not going to go digging for the stats now but at a greater rate then damn near any other team. The real 'problem' is a lack of surprise 70 point players which is going to happen when you're constantly picking outside #50.

 

[Sol]

The problem with the current situation is there's a very clear black hole from the end of DL's tenure and the guys from the most recent 2-3 drafts it's too soon to tell. So of course it's going to look like 5 years of failure when really it's impossible to fairly evaluate the last couple of drafts even though they're getting held against as a detriment when we do these criticisms. I don't think it's fair to have it both ways--say we don't have anyone on the roster from the last two drafts on one hand, but praise the picks of the most recent draftees as well. Unless you truly think that none of Kupari, Thomas, Shafigullin, Dudas, Hrenak, Sodergran, Ingham, Vilardi, JAD, Villalta, Anderson, Phillips, Hults, Rymsha, Clague, Moverare, Eyssimont will make even a dent in the NHL, in which case that's an extreme minority opinion as even some of the most haterade talking heads have praised those picks. Using Colin Miller as a flashpoint, people are like "Lol kings can't draft" in one breath then complain that he's playing well elsewhere in the next. It's maddening. This isn't so much at you as at the general attitude, you've been very consistent in your critique.







Overrated, mediocre scouting departments don't win multiple cups with an almost entirely homegrown team with only one signed UFA in Mitchell, the other pieces which were traded for from within. The end.

Our current situation is due to a purge of interior assets more than anything, and if you have any faith in our recent acquisitions--which you clearly do evidenced by your ongoing love affair with our non-Quick goalies--then you'll have to begrudgingly admit that they're actually good when they have chips to work with.

Can they improve? absolutely, They can learn and adjust. Anyone can and should. But calling them overrated, lmao. By any metric they produce a ton of nhlers, not going to go digging for the stats now but at a greater rate then damn near any other team. The real 'problem' is a lack of surprise 70 point players which is going to happen when you're constantly picking outside #50.

Didn't know the Kings acquired Kopitar, Quick, Richards, Carter, Penner, Mitchell, Scuderi, Greene, Stoll, Fraser , and Gaborik off the top of my head via draft.


Kings haven't drafted a single high end player or anything close to it. Produce a ton of NHLers? Sure. Anything really impressive? Not by a long shot.

Yeah they definitely purged a lot of assets but with the assets they had they definitely didn't draft anything great. For the most part complimentary players. Very minimal stand outs.


Hence 31st.


PS, the Petersen hype I was doing last GDT was to irritate the stout Quick fans, with you in mind. Lmao. I was filling out an app for a new home and caught like one period.

 

[Fishhead]

Didn't know the Kings acquired Kopitar, Quick, Richards, Carter, Penner, Mitchell, Scuderi, Greene, Stoll, Fraser , and Gaborik off the top of my head via draft.


Kings haven't drafted a single high end player or anything close to it. Produce a ton of NHLers? Sure. Anything really impressive? Not by a long shot.

Yeah they definitely purged a lot of assets but with the assets they had they definitely didn't draft anything great.


Hence 31st.


PS, the Petersen hype I was doing last GDT was to irritate the stout Quick fans, with you in mind. Lmao. I was filling out an app for a new home and caught like one period.

The Kings didn't draft Kopitar or Quick? Those guys aren't impressive? Doughty isn't either? None of those guys are high end? That's the holy trinity of a cup winner ffs.

Are you drunk, man?

 

[Sol]

The Kings didn't draft Kopitar or Quick? Those guys aren't impressive? Doughty isn't either? None of those guys are high end? That's the holy trinity of a cup winner ffs.

Are you drunk, man?

Talking about the management that assembled the cup team bb. I thought that was obvious.

 

[Fishhead]

Talking about the management that assembled the cup team bb. I thought that was obvious.

Thank god. I thought you really were losing it

I still think Doughty is impressive!