The Avs need a 2C in a pretty bad way. We could use someone 26/27 or younger. Only true untouchables would be:
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Duchene for our 1st?
The Avs need a 2C in a pretty bad way. We could use someone 26/27 or younger. Only true untouchables would be:
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Duchene for our 1st?
Duchene might be available
Zibanajed is a guy I’ve always liked. Jost would probably be the ask there. RNH for Barrie is a trade that seemingly gets talked about every year but maybe the drafting of Bouchard changes that.
Zibanejad is obviously better but the Rangers gain 5 years with Jost who IMO would fit the rebuild better. Zibanejad isn’t old by any means but I think the Rangers might be bad for awhile and a guy like Jost might make more sense. Quinn being a NCAA guy might know more about him as well.
For me Hayes wouldn’t even be an option. I think the Avs have enough of those types of guys. If they can’t get a Zibanejad/RNH kind of a guy I’d rather just wait and see if we can develop our own 2C or wait to see what the Ottawa 1st becomes.No interest in Zib/Jost swap. At all.
Hayes on the other hand is something I might be interested in. Not too thrilled with how Jost has been developing so far. Still very young though.
For me Hayes wouldn’t even be an option. I think the Avs have enough of those types of guys. If they can’t get a Zibanejad/RNH kind of a guy I’d rather just wait and see if we can develop our own 2C or wait to see what the Ottawa 1st becomes.
Jost+ for Zibanejed would be good with me. Not so sure NYR would be completely enamored with that deal.
Agreed on that. If Hayes is the best they can get they'd be better off trying to get Soderberg better wingers. He's just as capable as Hayes. The Avs need a real, play-driving #2 centre -- not a 40-50 guy.
Hayes, Claesson and Namestnikov for Wilson, Jost, Greer and a second
No. He isn't. Soderberg is crap. Hayes scored 25 goals last year in a checking role. He always starts the season slow. Hayes is infinitely better than Soderberg.
No. He isn't. Soderberg is crap. Hayes scored 25 goals last year in a checking role. He always starts the season slow. Hayes is infinitely better than Soderberg.
For me Hayes wouldn’t even be an option. I think the Avs have enough of those types of guys. If they can’t get a Zibanejad/RNH kind of a guy I’d rather just wait and see if we can develop our own 2C or wait to see what the Ottawa 1st becomes.
Agreed on that. If Hayes is the best they can get they'd be better off trying to get Soderberg better wingers. He's just as capable as Hayes. The Avs need a real, play-driving #2 centre -- not a 40-50 guy.
Whatever you think of Hayes vs Soderberg, I think most Avs fans agree he’s not the guy to go after. Maybe management thinks differently but I don’t think you’ll find many Avs fans that are interested in Hayes so there’s not a lot of point discussing his value since Avs fans will probably undervalue him due to their needs which will just create an argument. For me a guy like Tyler Johnson would be the minimum type of talent I’d go after, if there’s no one like that available I would just wait until there is, no need rushing to fill the 2C hole as the Avs aren’t serious cup contenders even if they do.No. He isn't. Soderberg is crap. Hayes scored 25 goals last year in a checking role. He always starts the season slow. Hayes is infinitely better than Soderberg.
You could be right, I’m not sure who though. Jost had a really good college career and was great during the World Juniors as well. If he had stayed in college last year like he probably should have I think he’d be considered an A level prospect. As it stands now though he has struggled a bit, but top 10 picks that performed really well at the World Juniors tend to hold their value for awhile even if they face some early struggles.Zibby is 25 and signed for 3 more season's after this. Right handed shot with size who's steady at faceoffs. If the Rangers shop him they'll get better prospect than Jost.
Don't sleep on Hayes. He does drive the play. Great size and reach. Solid playmaker with good vision. Wish he'd shoot more though.
C'mon man...Hayes, Claesson and Namestnikov for Wilson, Jost, Greer and a second
No. He isn't. Soderberg is crap. Hayes scored 25 goals last year in a checking role. He always starts the season slow. Hayes is infinitely better than Soderberg.
What would you give us for JohnsonWhatever you think of Hayes vs Soderberg, I think most Avs fans agree he’s not the guy to go after. Maybe management thinks differently but I don’t think you’ll find many Avs fans that are interested in Hayes so there’s not a lot of point discussing his value since Avs fans will probably undervalue him due to their needs which will just create an argument. For me a guy like Tyler Johnson would be the minimum type of talent I’d go after, if there’s no one like that available I would just wait until there is, no need rushing to fill the 2C hole as the Avs aren’t serious cup contenders even if they do.
I'm in total agreement that they hold their value. Kid is 20 years old. He's one of the youngest players in the league who's a definite NHL player. He wouldn't be the center piece for Zibby though.You could be right, I’m not sure who though. Jost had a really good college career and was great during the World Juniors as well. If he had stayed in college last year like he probably should have I think he’d be considered an A level prospect. As it stands now though he has struggled a bit, but top 10 picks that performed really well at the World Juniors tend to hold their value for awhile even if they face some early struggles.
Who do you think Zibanejad could fetch then? To me the next tier up of prospect would be a guy like Mittelstadt, I don’t think Zib could fetch a prospect like that but maybe I’m wrongI'm in total agreement that they hold their value. Kid is 20 years old. He's one of the youngest players in the league who's a definite NHL player. He wouldn't be the center piece for Zibby though.
I'm in total agreement that they hold their value. Kid is 20 years old. He's one of the youngest players in the league who's a definite NHL player. He wouldn't be the center piece for Zibby though.
Who do you think Zibanejad could fetch then? To me the next tier up of prospect would be a guy like Mittelstadt, I don’t think Zib could fetch a prospect like that but maybe I’m wrong
Surprised they didn't sign Bozak in the summer.The Avs need a 2C in a pretty bad way. We could use someone 26/27 or younger. Only true untouchables would be:
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