24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

[LeighDx59]

Someone younger.

Wouldnt mind that either, just depending on the price. Id rather Yzerman not pay top prices if possible. I just want some sort of upgrade defensively.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

I don't think they trade, just MO.

Highest I'd go is:

2025 1st
Chariot(@50%)
Wallinder
Lombardi

And I'm sure Dallas would laugh.

I dont know what I'd offer for him but I wouldnt give up the farm. I like his upside and even if hes not a top 4 guy I'd take him at 6'7 on the 3rd pair

Bichsel johansson 3rd pairing could be really solid. Hes got 17 games in his career so way too early to tell what he is , I just saw 3 really good dmen on the left side already

Maybe they have someone in mind to go on the right side. just saw him as an option

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Someone younger.

I'd have np with Martinez. Obviously I'd prefer Miller,hague,bichsel etc....

I see Martinez as a stop gap until the kids are ready and prevents yzerman from signing another stupid ufa contract

He can help now, turns 38 in the summer. Depending how he'd do and if we can get rid of holl I'd give him a 1 year extension. Probably be a dream come true for him

Chiarot seider
Edvinsson pellika
Martinez johansson
Free agent + tuomisto

Again I'd prefer a younger dman but wouldnt be a bad option if it stops another holl/chiarot/petry move

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Man Almost blew a 2 goal lead back to back nights ... unless we make a big move for the future I'd like to see yzerman make a move to at least upgrade the defense

Oleksiak,soucy,martinez .. no huge cost there I'd say. I didnt think we'd make the playoffs cause of our defense and as much as I liked edvinsson and johansson theyre both rookies. they been great

Always said this team would go nowhere until the rookies came and took over. Ever since kasper was put on the 1st line hes just kept going

Make a dman move before the deadline stevie. And call up watson next game to start smashing some bodies around. This ducks game pissed me off with the cheap hits

 

[Lampedampe]

Many others have said it, but another 3rd pair defenseman is needed.

Edvinsson is slumping abit. Need to have a 3rd pair that is reliable enough to pick up some slack when the 2 rookies struggle. Which they will from time to time, being rookies and all.

 

[Oddbob]

Many others have said it, but another 3rd pair defenseman is needed.

Edvinsson is slumping abit. Need to have a 3rd pair that is reliable enough to pick up some slack when the 2 rookies struggle. Which they will from time to time, being rookies and all.

Yeah, this is the issue with a rookie pair even if they are good, they will make mistakes and without another better option to spell them when they struggle it can get bad. I really don't like how Steve hasn't addressed our blueline at all during this season. There has to be some lower tier moves he could have made by now that gets Holl out of the lineup each night and allows for Gus to be scratched when he sucks.

I'm not worried about Ed really, as rookies will have ups and downs and he has been asked to shoulder a much heavier load than a rookie should have to, and that is on Steve. Great that he can handle 20+, but still.

 

[KJoe88]

Trading Olli was a mistake op. Should’ve been someone else.

 

[TheOctopusKid]

I know the obvious things that we are missing (Top 4 D with term, middle 6 scoring) - but I also recognize that we are in a bit of a logjam with our upcoming prospects at this point.

I very much guess that many of our top end prospects are already on track to take over positions in the next two years that are currently occupied by short term veteran plugs at the moment, and maybe the better use of our prospect pool and picks is to straight up overpay for a stud upgrade if available (no duh!).

In the absence of that, the most immediate term item I can think of that we could do that honestly makes us better for the run and won't cost us an arm and a leg, is building a true 'shutdown' line. The MIN and ANA and it's recency bias aside, one of the things that I find odd about this team is that our 4th line is entirely ...identity-less. It's mostly some odd revolving door of Veleno, Rasmussen, Motte, Fischer, snakebitten forwards on a coldspell in Tarasenko, Beggren, hell...even Copp and Compher. The line just seems to be just a random collection with no real value other than it's ...where players go to exist.

I very much expect when it's all said and done - that it will be filled by Mazer - Savage - James in three years which will be formidable and tenacious; but what if we brought in someone round out that line now, and give us the forwards we need when protecting a lead with 6 min left?

Adding in a Tanev or an Evans - make it a hockey trade and ship off Veleno and a 3rd; whatever. But adding a true defensive specialist and forechecking will give the nice same 'veteran to teach the young guys how to do the role' Mazur next year, and then Savage the year after

 

[Lampedampe]

Yeah, this is the issue with a rookie pair even if they are good, they will make mistakes and without another better option to spell them when they struggle it can get bad. I really don't like how Steve hasn't addressed our blueline at all during this season. There has to be some lower tier moves he could have made by now that gets Holl out of the lineup each night and allows for Gus to be scratched when he sucks.

I'm not worried about Ed really, as rookies will have ups and downs and he has been asked to shoulder a much heavier load than a rookie should have to, and that is on Steve. Great that he can handle 20+, but still.

Yeah, just need a vet that has some physicality and can PK.

Dumoulin and Oleksiak fit the bill, and i reckon neither would look out of shape in the top-4 for stints, if needed.

 

[Oddbob]

Trading Olli was a mistake op. Should’ve been someone else.

Especially with how well he has played and minutes for Utah.