24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

[Euro Twins]

I didnt even realize this but quinn hughes is a ufa in 3 yrs ? I thought he was signed longterm... time to get larkin to convince him to walk so we keep our assets and come back home to his family and friends lol

Wont happen but man lol

Hughes seider
Edvinsson pellikka

Top 4 + cossa/Augustine

It's over for the league haha

Can you imagine? Vancouver trades Petterson and then loses Hughes in a couple years.... Yikes

 

[Ricelund]

Someone posted an excerpt from Lidstrom saying they were monitoring the Petterson situation and of course they are interested in trading for him if they can.

OP:

Lidstrom was on a swedish NHL radio show the other day they asked him about Pettersson to Detroit. And he said they'd absolutely be interested if he's ready to be traded and that they're following the situation of course.

Also asked him about ASP if he could do the same journey as Raymond and make the NHL roster straight away. He was a bit diplomatic there and said that they want their most talented and important players to play top minutes otherwise it's better to be in the AHL and work on your game.

 

[SantosHalper]

This is why I’m okay with giving up mazur. His fit just doesn’t fit anymore and I have no doubt he will play in the NHL, I just don’t see it here anymore with all of the prospects we have that are now purely clogging up the pipeline.

Yup mazur is expendable to me cause with all the kids coming unless a bunch bust he should be a 4th liner here

What are you two talking about? There is a role for Mazur and a very specific one. Forechecking, every line needs a player that goes hard on forecheck and drives to the net to take the bumps and bruises. Why would we waste Larkin, Ray, Cat etc... on that? Mazur is a beast in puck battles and there is a lot of scoring potential too. Near PPG player in NCAA, 0.65 player in AHL, Kasper for example was 0.51 PPG. Near PPG in AHL playoffs, best goal scorer for team USA in 2022 U20 worlds. Wore a "C" in USHL and "A" in Denver, leadership qualities comes along with that package. Mazur does the necessary things to win hockey games, i'd say he is far from being expendable.

If we create hypothetical everyone pans out top-9

MBN/Mazur - Larkin - Ray
Cat - Danielson - MBN/Mazur
Lombardi - Kasper - Buch

Perfect balance, strong forechecker in every line.

 

[Euro Twins]

OP:

That's the one. Thank you!

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Sure, though I am the weirdo who actually prefers a lefty at this point. I was thinking the NYI were quickly approaching the blow up stage. I could be totally wrong though.

NYI should be in the blowup phase but Lou Lam won’t ever admit defeat.

I’d take Romanov off their hands. Pulock or Pellech would be OK as well.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

What are you two talking about? There is a role for Mazur and a very specific one. Forechecking, every line needs a player that goes hard on forecheck and drives to the net to take the bumps and bruises. Why would we waste Larkin, Ray, Cat etc... on that? Mazur is a beast in puck battles and there is a lot of scoring potential too. Near PPG player in NCAA, 0.65 player in AHL, Kasper for example was 0.51 PPG. Near PPG in AHL playoffs, best goal scorer for team USA in 2022 U20 worlds. Wore a "C" in USHL and "A" in Denver, leadership qualities comes along with that package. Mazur does the necessary things to win hockey games, i'd say he is far from being expendable.

If we create hypothetical everyone pans out top-9

MBN/Mazur - Larkin - Ray
Cat - Danielson - MBN/Mazur
Lombardi - Kasper - Buch

Perfect balance, strong forechecker in every line.

What am I talking about lol ... like I said unless a bunch of our guys bust hes destined to be a 4th line guy forecheck or not

I dont know how you can honestly insert him on a top 6 role with what we have and coming up

You seen the way kasper is playing?? Yes hes a center but lots of center get converted to wing and he can play that role for a few years and go back to C down the road. It's clear atm he has chemistry with Larkin and raymond

Nygaard was a 1st rd pick,unless he disappoints he wont surpass him or debrincat to land on the top 6

Much rather have a physical player with skill whos 6'8 in soderblom on the 3rd line than mazur . Sorry

Buchelnikov finnie lombardi plante kiiskinen are guys I'd put on a 3rd line over mazur atm. Hes destined for 4th line unless guys flop. If we can land a big player and mazur is one of the prospects gone I wouldnt even hesitate.

Sure he'd be fine on the 4th with james etc.. but I wouldn't lose out on a pettersson if we can move mazur and keep buchelnikov for example

 

[Euro Twins]

NYI should be in the blowup phase but Lou Lam won’t ever admit defeat.

I’d take Romanov off their hands. Pulock or Pellech would be OK as well.

The islanders play such a shit brand of hockey, I feel bad for the fans.

That being said I'd love to get Horvat

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

NYI should be in the blowup phase but Lou Lam won’t ever admit defeat.

I’d take Romanov off their hands. Pulock or Pellech would be OK as well.

We liked romanov his draft year. We should have just taken him over mcisaac instead of trying to be cute and hoping he'd be there 30 picks later

 

[SirloinUB]

NYI should be in the blowup phase but Lou Lam won’t ever admit defeat.

I’d take Romanov off their hands. Pulock or Pellech would be OK as well.

Romanov is a name I've been thinking about for a couple of weeks now. He could be a great fit beside Seider.

 

[Euro Twins]

We liked romanov his draft year. We should have just taken him over mcisaac instead of trying to be cute and hoping he'd be there 30 picks later

Ya well, while we're on the subject we should have taken Hughes also. Holland really had a banger of a last draft with us.

Stuck us with Zadina and McIsaac, 2 guys that are both gone. Could have gotten Hughes and Romanov. Or even Bouchard and Romanov since apparently Kenny was going to draft Bouchard before Zadina fell.

 

[SirloinUB]

I've tossed ideas different trade ideas around but I am ultimately of the mind that Yzerman stands pat (again) at the Trade Deadline.

 

[Euro Twins]

I've tossed ideas different trade ideas around but I am ultimately of the mind that Yzerman stands pat (again) at the Trade Deadline.

I honestly think he makes a move this year. Not sure if it will be impactful or minor, but I highly doubt he stands pay.

Tbh though I believe he's going to go after a #2c

 

[Snuggs]

I've tossed ideas different trade ideas around but I am ultimately of the mind that Yzerman stands pat (again) at the Trade Deadline.

Yeah me too...

Bringing up Dominik Shine in a playoff hunt and making no moves says a lot, imo, of what management is thinking and will do going forward this year.

If anything, they "might" sell if they slip at all in the playoff chase/hunt. (Lyon/Fischer/Motte/Tank)

 

[SirloinUB]

I honestly think he makes a move this year. Not sure if it will be impactful or minor, but I highly doubt he stands pay.

Tbh though I believe he's going to go after a #2c

Yeah me too...

Bringing up Dominik Shine in a playoff hunt and making no moves says a lot, imo, of what management is thinking and will do going forward this year.

If anything, they "might" sell if they slip at all in the playoff chase/hunt. (Lyon/Fischer/Motte/Tank)

I could see a minor move akin to unloading Kostin last season. And to be clear, Im not opposed to landing a piece that can stick around (with term or via extension). Im just skeptical.

Patience has been the theme of this rebuild and I suspect it continues.

 

[Snuggs]

Like, in no world is Dominik Shine better than Brandon Saad for the next 4 months and if you didn't want him long-term the contract could have been dealt with in the offseason. Saad can still possibly join this team but he's likely to sign with a better team cheaper now that his contract has been terminated.

I'm not saying a move like that makes you a playoff team, or is a major difference even but you are definitely better with Saad imo vs Shine.

An not to pick on Shine but prolly rope in Motte/Fischer too.

 

[Euro Twins]

Like, in no world is Dominik Shine better than Brandon Saad for the next 4 months and if you didn't want him long-term the contract could have been dealt with in the offseason. Saad can still possibly join this team but he's likely to sign with a better team cheaper now that his contract has been terminated.

I'm not saying a move like that makes you a playoff team, or is a major difference even but you are definitely better with Saad imo vs Shine.

An not to pick on Shine but prolly rope in Motte/Fischer too.

Are you actually upset that we didn't claim Saad at 4.5m?

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

Saad is Tarasenko part 2. So, no thank you.

 

[SirloinUB]

If saad was interested in coming here (he wants to be an oiler BTW) on a league minimum now that he is a free agent.. go for it.

Passing on a waiver claim was absolutely the right call.

 

[datsyukfan]

Bouquist on waivers, would much rather have him on 3rd pair over holl and Petry

 

[SantosHalper]

What am I talking about lol ... like I said unless a bunch of our guys bust hes destined to be a 4th line guy forecheck or not

I dont know how you can honestly insert him on a top 6 role with what we have and coming up

Because i have seen him play. And coaches who know anything about their job, care about forechecking and net front presence. There was a reason why Danny Cleary played with Datsyuk instead of Hudler. Mazur brings elements that Lombardi/Buchelnikov/Plante doesn't bring and Mazur is outstanding at his role.

You seen the way kasper is playing?? Yes hes a center but lots of center get converted to wing and he can play that role for a few years and go back to C down the road. It's clear atm he has chemistry with Larkin and raymond

I have seen Kasper play and he doesn't need to play in that role for few more years because we have Mazur to play in that role and Kasper can go back playing in the middle where need him MORE.

And in depth we trust, deeper the team, better we succeed. Kasper is already good enough to play 2C position, he most likely finishes this season as winger but starting from next camp he should play in the middle.

Nygaard was a 1st rd pick,unless he disappoints he wont surpass him or debrincat to land on the top 6

I guess you didn't read the hypothetical top-9 part:
MBN/Mazur - Larkin - Ray
Cat - Danielson - MBN/Mazur
Lombardi - Kasper - Buch

Cat is not even competing for the same role, he's a sniper and by having Mazur or MBN next to him saves him the trouble to go boards and battle for the puck. Instead he can look opening to get the puck passed to him, so he can use his best weapon, the shot, and try scoring a goal.

MBN can be in the 1st line and Mazur in the 2nd, doesn't really matter.

Much rather have a physical player with skill whos 6'8 in soderblom on the 3rd line than mazur . Sorry

Söderblom is in line for Rasmussen's job, in GR he's been what we hope Ras would be. And that job is 4th line wing and PK duties. If anything Ras is becoming expendable. And Mazur got plenty of skill, i guess you didn't see the numbers i posted. Surpassing Elmer's numbers too. And Mazur doesn't shy away from physical game either.

Buchelnikov finnie lombardi plante kiiskinen are guys I'd put on a 3rd line over mazur atm. Hes destined for 4th line unless guys flop. If we can land a big player and mazur is one of the prospects gone I wouldnt even hesitate.

Buchelnikov, Lombardi, Plante doesn't play in that role what Mazur plays and the Wings team identity target is, hard to play against. Mazur is those identity players. Finnie is still miles and miles away for even making NHL debut, let alone making a career in NHL. Kiiskinen has a good chance making it but Mazur is better skater therefore much more suitable for pulling the piano in the top-6. But when there is injuries, guy like Kiiskinen will be good replacement in upper lines.

If the is a trade for a big player, the other team will want a top prospect. Meaning Kasper/Danielson/ASP/MBN/Cossa/Augustine.

Sure he'd be fine on the 4th with james etc.. but I wouldn't lose out on a pettersson if we can move mazur and keep buchelnikov for example

Another LHD? Not what we need. Or are we talking about Elias? Van would want Danielson or Kasper along with Larkin/Raymond, not Mazur.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Because i have seen him play. And coaches who know anything about their job, care about forechecking and net front presence. There was a reason why Danny Cleary played with Datsyuk instead of Hudler. Mazur brings elements that Lombardi/Buchelnikov/Plante doesn't bring and Mazur is outstanding at his role.

I have seen Kasper play and he doesn't need to play in that role for few more years because we have Mazur to play in that role and Kasper can go back playing in the middle where need him MORE.

And in depth we trust, deeper the team, better we succeed. Kasper is already good enough to play 2C position, he most likely finishes this season as winger but starting from next camp he should play in the middle.

I guess you didn't read the hypothetical top-9 part:
MBN/Mazur - Larkin - Ray
Cat - Danielson - MBN/Mazur
Lombardi - Kasper - Buch

Cat is not even competing for the same role, he's a sniper and by having Mazur or MBN next to him saves him the trouble to go boards and battle for the puck. Instead he can look opening to get the puck passed to him, so he can use his best weapon, the shot, and try scoring a goal.

MBN can be in the 1st line and Mazur in the 2nd, doesn't really matter.

Söderblom is in line for Rasmussen's job, in GR he's been what we hope Ras would be. And that job is 4th line wing and PK duties. If anything Ras is becoming expendable. And Mazur got plenty of skill, i guess you didn't see the numbers i posted. Surpassing Elmer's numbers too. And Mazur doesn't shy away from physical game either.


Buchelnikov, Lombardi, Plante doesn't play in that role what Mazur plays and the Wings team identity target is, hard to play against. Mazur is those identity players. Finnie is still miles and miles away for even making NHL debut, let alone making a career in NHL. Kiiskinen has a good chance making it but Mazur is better skater therefore much more suitable for pulling the piano in the top-6. But when there is injuries, guy like Kiiskinen will be good replacement in upper lines.

If the is a trade for a big player, the other team will want a top prospect. Meaning Kasper/Danielson/ASP/MBN/Cossa/Augustine.

Another LHD? Not what we need. Or are we talking about Elias? Van would want Danielson or Kasper along with Larkin/Raymond, not Mazur.

Your a big defendant of mazur. Cool, I think theres a 0% chance we see mazur in a top 6 role longterm unless our prospects flop , regardless of his checking . We'll see who's right in the end

I was talking about elias, wouldnt give any prospect of significance for a ufa to be. Maybe tuomisto/Viro type level attached with a pick but we shouldn't target Marcus.

I mentioned somewhere danielson+ mazur in a package for pettersson since. 0% chance raymond or Larkin would go to Vancouver. And I cant see anyone doing the same since hes been struggling for so long.

Would probably be a player struggling as well other teams would offer atm like zibanenad,cozens,zegras etc...

No team is offering up their #1c or top scoring player to Vancouver

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

f*** it offer 2025 1st, Danielson ,Copp and Rasmussen for EP? Who says no?

 

[SantosHalper]

Your a big defendant of mazur. Cool, I think theres a 0% chance we see mazur in a top 6 role longterm unless our prospects flop , regardless of his checking . We'll see who's right in the end

He's been in that top-6 role in GR and will continue in that role in Detroit. You should watch him more closely.

wouldnt give any prospect of significance for a ufa to be. Maybe tuomisto/Viro type level attached with a pick but we shouldn't target Marcus.

At least we agree on here.
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But i think that this whole soap opera in Vancouver is what effecting Pettersson, so i don't believe that Vancouver is actively looking offers for Pettersson. Im sure they are listening offers but unless someone is really swapping something serious, they ain't trading him. Miller in the otherhand might be relatively cheap to get but a bit risky perhaps. I think they are going to trade him.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

He's been in that top-6 role in GR and will continue in that role in Detroit. You should watch him more closely.

At least we agree on here.
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But i think that this whole soap opera in Vancouver is what effecting Pettersson, so i don't believe that Vancouver is actively looking offers for Pettersson. Im sure they are listening offers but unless someone is really swapping something serious, they ain't trading him. Miller in the otherhand might be relatively cheap to get but a bit risky perhaps. I think they are going to trade him.

Just because someone plays top 6 in the AHL doesnt mean that will be a top 6 nhl forward come on. I think there's way too many guys unless they bust that will be ahead of him on this team,or will be

We can keep going back and fourth on this but only time will tell whos right or wrong

Miller will 100% be traded and theres rumors canucks might deal both and now even bowser's name is out there. Why would Hughes stick around ?? I cant see pettersson being dealt by vancouver but I just said if he was to be traded I'd move those players in a deal for a 1c who's still 25