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24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

Unless they retain salary or take Copp/Compher it makes no sense for the Wings

You guys would be ok giving up real assets and paying his entire salary?
 
JoesuffP said:
Unless they retain salary or take Copp/Compher it makes no sense for the Wings

You guys would be ok giving up real assets and paying his entire salary?
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They would have to take some salary... think most fans don't want to trade any of the top tier prospects but if Buffalo wants guys like Copp, Compher (both i don't see going), Rasmussen, Veleno, Holl then maybe and a combination of B prospects or future picks sure. Cozens is a gamble with a big contract attached.. should in no way be giving up our recent 1st rounders or gem prospects.
 
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I am in favor of acquiring Cozens if possible, but I have liked him going back to his draft year.

I like adding a young big body center that is RH and can score. He is overpaid relative to what he has done the last 2 years, so maybe the cost to acquire would be lower.

I would be interested in buying low on him, I think him and Larkin could be a pretty good 1-2 punch. Also think he could do well with moving to wing at some point if need be, could use a big RH winger that can score.
 
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Frk It said:
I am in favor of acquiring Cozens if possible, but I have liked him going back to his draft year.

I like adding a young big body center that is RH and can score. He is overpaid relative to what he has done the last 2 years, so maybe the cost to acquire would be lower.

I would be interested in buying low on him, I think him and Larkin could be a pretty good 1-2 punch. Also think he could do well with moving to wing at some point if need be, could use a big RH winger that can score.
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Maybe it won't be Cozens, but eventually Yzerman is gonna have to make a move.

You've got a stocked cupboard and not all of them are gonna be NHLers.
 
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JoesuffP said:
Unless they retain salary or take Copp/Compher it makes no sense for the Wings

You guys would be ok giving up real assets and paying his entire salary?
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I'm ok with it.

I like Pettersson alot better than Cozens. IF not Pettersson then someone else, I'm not real interested in Cozens at all unless it's for Copp/Tarasenko straight up. Pettersson's the hot name just because he's available. He could be the next Huberdeau or the next Eichel. It's a gamble.
 
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I was hoping EP40 would hit free agency and was saddened when he didn't. Would like him more at a 10 mil cap hit than 11.5, but what are ya going to do.

But either a Cozens or Petterson trade would seem hard for the Wings to pull off this season. Some serious cap gymnastics would have to happen.
 
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JoesuffP said:
Unless they retain salary or take Copp/Compher it makes no sense for the Wings

You guys would be ok giving up real assets and paying his entire salary?
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I think it would have to involve one of Copp/Compher to keep us cap compliant. Then you sweeten with some picks/prospects as needed.
 
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Frk It said:
I think it would have to involve one of Copp/Compher to keep us cap compliant. Then you sweeten with some picks/prospects as needed.
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Sounds lovely. However this is the problem with bringing home mid Michigan talent. Both have modified no trades, and I doubt either is interested in leaving home to waive and go to Buffalo or Vancouver.

No doubt Buffalo is on both their lists, Vancouver I would say is 50/50.

Not to mention, you need the other team to want these guys, which right now is also a hard sell.
 
Frk It said:
I think it would have to involve one of Copp/Compher to keep us cap compliant. Then you sweeten with some picks/prospects as needed.
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I'm gonna need you to elaborate a little further on what you mean by picks/prospects as a "sweetener" in this scenario
 
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RED WINGS STOMP said:
Sounds lovely. However this is the problem with bringing home mid Michigan talent. Both have modified no trades, and I doubt either is interested in leaving home to waive and go to Buffalo or Vancouver.

No doubt Buffalo is on both their lists, Vancouver I would say is 50/50.

Not to mention, you need the other team to want these guys, which right now is also a hard sell.
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Well the bundling of picks and prospects is what makes the other team want those guys.

As far as Buffalo goes, the thing that might work in our favor is it’s only like a 4.5 hour drive or 1.5 hour flight away.
 
RED WINGS STOMP said:
Cozens does seem risky. Not playing up to his contract right now.

Then I look at all the success some young guys have had once they get out of Buffalo. Then I am reminded of Cozens 22-23 season. I get the intrigue.
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I think 22-23 Cozens had some underlying numbers that show he's, not really that guy and they aren't repeatable. However, last year he was still a 20 goal 50 point guy basically at 22 years old.

I think there's some serious risk at his capital, and some serious upside that could be tapped into as well. Like you said, guys leave Buffalo and light it up. For the right price, hell ya I'm in. But with his cap hit and performance there's some legit risk there and the price would have to be right
 
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Rasmussen + 1 top 12 protected for Power
Power -Seider
Ed -ASP
We are set on defense.
 
The most I’d do is Copp+Rasmussen+2nd for Cozens at full salary

Pettersson I go Debrincat+Kasper+++
Our core and ASP is off the table

A trade involving Ras/Veleno/Copp/Compher/Berggren/Tarasenko makes a lot of sense if Yzerman can swing a 3 for 1 type trade with a forward that moves the needle
 
JoesuffP said:
The most I’d do is Copp+Rasmussen+2nd for Cozens at full salary

Pettersson I go Debrincat+Kasper+++
Our core and ASP is off the table

A trade involving Ras/Veleno/Copp/Compher/Berggren/Tarasenko makes a lot of sense if Yzerman can swing a 3 for 1 type trade with a forward that moves the needle
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Outside Cossa There is no one in our core is potential first line player and if we could have big upgrade , we should consider. It's all depends on return. Larkin , Raymond, Ed and Cossa should not be available, everyone else ?
 
lilidk said:
Outside Cossa There is no one in our core is potential first line player and if we could have big upgrade , we should consider. It's all depends on return. Larkin , Raymond, Ed and Cossa should not be available, everyone else ?
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I think that asp and buch both have first line/pairing potential
 
JoesuffP said:
The most I’d do is Copp+Rasmussen+2nd for Cozens at full salary

Pettersson I go Debrincat+Kasper+++
Our core and ASP is off the table

A trade involving Ras/Veleno/Copp/Compher/Berggren/Tarasenko makes a lot of sense if Yzerman can swing a 3 for 1 type trade with a forward that moves the needle
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i agree that debrincat is our most valuable non-core asset, but trading him back to canada after he basically strong-armed his way home would be such a d*ck move
 
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