24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

[RedHawkDown]

Well...why has the offense dropped off a cliff this year?

Because last year we were riding very high shooting % and PDO

 

[Winger98]

I would put whomever blocked the trade to NY on waivers, if they have a NMC bench them until they accept the unconditional buy-out.

It is time for Yzerman to start taking big cuts at this thing. If the player has no value, move on from him and inject youth we need to see. Being a lottery team needs that focus, especially if you’re not blowing it up for rebuild #2. The time has come, it is either that or fire LaLonde right after Christmas. I felt gross writing that but honestly he should have been gone in November and failure to act earlier has put this on Yzerman at a bad time of year. So the tough call and timing needs to happen.

I think we are beyond just a coaching change. You moved on from players that weren’t working hard enough in part because of requests from the room. Well they all aren’t working hard enough now, this really needs a pretty violent shake up in my opinion. Several things need to change entering 2025, one of the key ones is Yzerman’s patience.

It is time for us to start featuring prominently on this waiver list, guys are not being held accountable. Front office, coaches, players need to be forced into accountability. We are Buffalo if we don’t do that, add another 6 years of pain. I appreciate the cap setup for the future, but we are creating a culture of losers.

The NMC doesn't prevent a buyout, from what I understand. They can refuse to report to anyone who claims them, or from going to the minors, but they can still be placed on waivers for the purpose of a buyout.

I'm not a fan of it just because of the dead cap aspect.

I'm also not sure who we have in GR to call up. If not for injury, Mazur was probably the next candidate. Danielson could handle it, but I'm not sure it's ideal considering it's his first pro year and he's still adjusting to GR. Lombardi is hurt. Soderblom isn't exactly lighting it up down there. Nygaard, Buch, and ASP aren't options.

We're not in a great spot right now with the whole just throw a kid in there angle.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Because last year we were riding very high shooting % and PDO

Ok

It's not just that we had more better offensive players?

I think we intentionally chose to surrender goals for better team defense and its just not worked out

 

[OneMoreTry]

I would like to know if those people, who always repeat how good our prospect pool is, have enough knowledge about all other teams prospects to actually back that stance.

I for one don’t have that knowledge, so I could only read articles about that, where journalists rank the teams, and assume they know enough.

What’s really become obvious for years is, that Dats and Z are actually our last great finds in the later rounds (5-7). Happens for other teams every few years.. but for us?

And even in the earlier rounds we’re selecting too many average guys, who don’t make an impact.

 

[eojsmada]

Because last year we were riding very high shooting % and PDO

Also 3 fewer shots per game compared to last year, on average. Volume down...% down. Can't score goals if you don't shoot the puck

 

[Winger98]

Ok

It's not just that we had more better offensive players?

I think we intentionally chose to surrender goals for better team defense and its just not worked out

What are sprong, fabbri, and perron doing this year? And I know folks are going to want to point to Walman and Ghost but the guy who took Walman's spot is Ed. And despite the career year Walman is having I would still take Ed in that spot.

Now, if Walman wasn't moved for whatever reason he was moved and we kept Ghost, could that have been an entertaining third pair? Maybe, though I'm not sure why we would believe we would get the same Walman that SJ is getting. We might have gotten the same Walman we saw the last four months of last season (4 points, 29 games, -4).

I don't disagree that we sacrificed some offensive talent to bring in some better defensive guys, but I also think we got a lot of luck our way last year, and we haven't gotten a lot of luck our way this year. We need better players so luck is a smaller variable.

 

[cjm502]

I would like to know if those people, who always repeat how good our prospect pool is, have enough knowledge about all other teams prospects to actually back that stance.

I for one don’t have that knowledge, so I could only read articles about that, where journalists rank the teams, and assume they know enough.

What’s really become obvious for years is, that Dats and Z are actually our last great finds in the later rounds (5-7). Happens for other teams every few years.. but for us?

And even in the earlier rounds we’re selecting too many average guys, who don’t make an impact.

I became pretty interested in following the teams prospect pool in the mid 2000s, and was always pretty underwhelmed with what the Wings had in the cupboard. Its common for a teams fans to get hyped over their top prospects regardless of how bad the prospect pool is, but I have always tried to stay somewhat grounded. For me, the Wings current prospect pool is so far ahead of anything else they have had since I've been following prospects that its almost laughable. Now I don't expect Danielson to end up better then Larkin, and I don't think ASP will be taking the #1 RD spot from Seider, but if you take the 89 draft out of the equation I genuinely believe the Wings prospect pool may have more guys with a realistic shot at becoming regular NHLers then ever.

I will continue to pump up this current group of prospects and if I end up looking like a fool then so be it, but I think Yzerman will have an easy time filling out the roster from within over the next few years.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

Last year was fun but I think some of you are forgetting December and that absolute trash run in February. Even at the end we were barely beating teams like Montreal.

They absolutely had the same things we have seen this year. It's just they shot at a high % to hide their flaws for so long. Remember losing to the Sharks? Ducks? Yotes twice? Sounds familiar.

everyone keeps saying february last year but we won 7 out of 10 that month. in march we went 3 and 11