24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

[minimal]

In light of these Buffalo/Wings rumors, how would folks around here feel about pursuing someone like Byram? Incidentally, feels like Berggren would be involved in any kind of trade here.

 

[WF19]

In light of these Buffalo/Wings rumors, how would folks around here feel about pursuing someone like Byram? Incidentally, feels like Berggren would be involved in any kind of trade here.

Would love to have Byram.

 

[19 for president]

Would love to have Byram.

Definitely interests me but not sure I'd pay a premium to get him because his health just scares me a bit too much. It is good to see he finally played a full season last year, but I am always leery when it comes to concussion issues.

If it was a buy cheaper situation absolutely go for it.

 

[newfy]

Thanks. Just seems very unlikely division rivals with the same general contention window would make a deal right now.

This isnt really a thing. Teams in division make trades in the NHL all the time.

In light of these Buffalo/Wings rumors, how would folks around here feel about pursuing someone like Byram? Incidentally, feels like Berggren would be involved in any kind of trade here.

Byram would help a lot but if the wings are using assets I would really hope its for a forward. If Cozens could find his game a bit, he fits the style of team the wings are building but it would come with some risk for sure

 

[OldnotDeadWings]

The mess in Buffalo makes it harder to be sure what you''d be getting with Cozens and to a lesser extent Byram. Tough for young players to develop on a dysfunctional losing team on its third GM and sixth coach in the past decade and more to come. Always thought of Cozens as better suited to W than C..

No to giving up any key pieces for Pettersson, one of the most overrated "stars" in the league.. Soft, sulky and inconsistent in what should have been a perfect situation for him and now overpaid too as a career point per game player with only one great season. One of Nate/Kasper, Augustine, protected firsts are available as the major pieces for the right guy.

 

[HisNoodliness]

In light of these Buffalo/Wings rumors, how would folks around here feel about pursuing someone like Byram? Incidentally, feels like Berggren would be involved in any kind of trade here.

Honestly I find Buffalo to be a tough trading partner because our needs are the same. Would I love to have Byram? Yep. But when I start imagining a deal, we don't really have pieces that Buffalo should be interested in (that I'd be willing to move). We both want to add young effective players, and add quality over quantity. The pieces we have that appeal to the Sabres are Larkin, Raymond, Edvinsson and Seider. They don't need unproven guys with potential, they don't need futures and they don't need third line caliber talent. That's all we have to offer.

If we can buy low on some of their pieces and put together the dreaded HFboards classic "three decent pieces for your one good one" trade, I'd love to. Cozens is a great candidate for a bounce back with a change of scenery. Byram would be a solid add for our second pair. I really think the team could use one of their offensive wingers like Benson or Peterka. I just don't see us being the team that has the right pieces to get any of them.

 

[lilidk]

No deals that make the defense worse in the short or long term, please.

If Chiarot got traded , for example for prospect our defense will get worse, that is pain I willing to take, as long as we get #3 defansman later

 

[lilidk]

Would love to have Byram.

Byram Seider
Edvinsson ASP

 

[LeighDx59]

Tommy Novak would be an interesting pick up. He has two 45 point seasons but is struggling and buried a little ways down Nashville's lineup.

He seems like a good change of scenery target but Im not sure if Nashville would be ready to give up on him.

Novak would be a good pickup, but I would look to see if Parssinen is available first, especially if theyre still moving out youngish players.

 

[Peter Tosh]

Something around Berggren for Samuelsson maybe? Berggren, Albert and Veleno for Samuelsson + a pick?

 

[DTR]

 

[SirloinUB]

I am very interested in landing one of (or multiple of) Cozens, Byram, Samulesson and a few other guys that seem less likely.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I am very interested in landing one of (or multiple of) Cozens, Byram, Samulesson and a few other guys that seem less likely.

Some upgrades.

Depends on what Detroit has to give up for me.

 

[Fjordy]

Something around Berggren for Samuelsson maybe? Berggren, Albert and Veleno for Samuelsson + a pick?

Maybe Samuelsson for Rasmussen?

While I may have a false impression of Rasmussen, I don't know much about the player he is, but I would like to replace Greenway with him to provide some physical presence and defensive play.

 

[Snuggs]

Maybe Samuelsson for Rasmussen?

While I may have a false impression of Rasmussen, I don't know much about the player he is, but I would like to replace Greenway with him to provide some physical presence and defensive play.

Considering the Red Wings defense right now.

Sure. SOS.

 

[Fjordy]

Considering the Red Wings defense right now.

Sure. SOS.

Well, our defense is not much better, if not worse.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I would put whomever blocked the trade to NY on waivers, if they have a NMC bench them until they accept the unconditional buy-out.

It is time for Yzerman to start taking big cuts at this thing. If the player has no value, move on from him and inject youth we need to see. Being a lottery team needs that focus, especially if you’re not blowing it up for rebuild #2. The time has come, it is either that or fire LaLonde right after Christmas. I felt gross writing that but honestly he should have been gone in November and failure to act earlier has put this on Yzerman at a bad time of year. So the tough call and timing needs to happen.

I think we are beyond just a coaching change. You moved on from players that weren’t working hard enough in part because of requests from the room. Well they all aren’t working hard enough now, this really needs a pretty violent shake up in my opinion. Several things need to change entering 2025, one of the key ones is Yzerman’s patience.

It is time for us to start featuring prominently on this waiver list, guys are not being held accountable. Front office, coaches, players need to be forced into accountability. We are Buffalo if we don’t do that, add another 6 years of pain. I appreciate the cap setup for the future, but we are creating a culture of losers.

 

[HisNoodliness]

I would put whomever blocked the trade to NY on waivers, if they have a NMC bench them until they accept the unconditional buy-out.

It is time for Yzerman to start taking big cuts at this thing. If the player has no value, move on from him and inject youth we need to see. Being a lottery team needs that focus, especially if you’re not blowing it up for rebuild #2. The time has come, it is either that or fire LaLonde right after Christmas. I felt gross writing that but honestly he should have been gone in November and failure to act earlier has put this on Yzerman at a bad time of year. So the tough call and timing needs to happen.

I think we are beyond just a coaching change. You moved on from players that weren’t working hard enough in part because of requests from the room. Well they all aren’t working hard enough now, this really needs a pretty violent shake up in my opinion. Several things need to change entering 2025, one of the key ones is Yzerman’s patience.

It is time for us to start featuring prominently on this waiver list, guys are not being held accountable. Front office, coaches, players need to be forced into accountability. We are Buffalo if we don’t do that, add another 6 years of pain. I appreciate the cap setup for the future, but we are creating a culture of losers.

Do we know that someone on our team blocked a NY trade? I saw that before it had been Trouba and then Trouba's recent comments made me think that we had never tried to trade for him in the first place. Is there news that I missed?

I'm with you that we need to make some changes. We needed to a while ago. Sign some college UFAs, bring up some kids from Grand Rapids, make a few trades, we need to shake up the room.

More than anything I'm tired of our defense. I don't want to watch Chiarot, Petry, Holl and Gustafsson making up 4/6 defenseman every night anymore. Bring in at least 2 more guys that can get it out of our end. I don't care if they can't clear the front of the net or defend a rush. I just hate watching 40 minutes of dump and change hockey every single game

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Do we know that someone on our team blocked a NY trade? I saw that before it had been Trouba and then Trouba's recent comments made me think that we had never tried to trade for him in the first place. Is there news that I missed?

I'm with you that we need to make some changes. We needed to a while ago. Sign some college UFAs, bring up some kids from Grand Rapids, make a few trades, we need to shake up the room.

More than anything I'm tired of our defense. I don't want to watch Chiarot, Petry, Holl and Gustafsson making up 4/6 defenseman every night anymore. Bring in at least 2 more guys that can get it out of our end. I don't care if they can't clear the front of the net or defend a rush. I just hate watching 40 minutes of dump and change hockey every single game

Trouba bounced it in the summer and to be clear he is pretty transparently trying to place his family in a big city with a booming medical presence for his wife which makes sense. So not sure if he still wouldn't have picked other options over us, but I do remember hearing we had a player New York was willing to take on that was unwilling to go to New York in season.

Not sure who that is and we can speculate. Given their roster construction I can see either Copp or Compher being somewhat likely there. But again we really have no idea, I honestly would welcome more roster flexibility, I am not as concerned with the asset which is why I land on waiving somebody. I also think it would have a pretty big impact on the room.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Not sure theirs anymove SY can make at this point that could both positively impact the rest of this seasonand for the tears ahead.. it's simply too much to overcome

We're better off selling before and at the TDL to tank for the highest pick possible, rotating in youth from GR for multiple games and committing this summer to actually adding talent via trade/free agency

 

[Redwing66]

Every trade deadline and offseason comes and goes with no change. When free agency opened this year we were shopping for fourth string goalies and GR backups. Not sure who is expecting something, anything to be done at the TD.

 

[raymond23]

Every trade deadline and offseason comes and goes with no change. When free agency opened this year we were shopping for fourth string goalies and GR backups. Not sure who is expecting something, anything to be done at the TD.

We had change last year. It was the first time in a decade that the team had a personality and identity. It was so fun to follow

Then Yzerman chose to get rid of all the players that brought that. And all of those players are doing really well elsewhere

The 2024 offseason is gonna be one to remember for all the wrong reasons. An absolute disasterclass

If you build a roster with the main purpose of avoiding risk, this is what you're left with

 

[JediOrderPizza]

We had change last year. It was the first time in a decade that the team had a personality and identity. It was so fun to follow

Then Yzerman chose to get rid of all the players that brought that. And all of those players are doing really well elsewhere

The 2024 offseason is gonna be one to remember for all the wrong reasons. An absolute disasterclass

If you build a roster with the main purpose of avoiding risk, this is what you're left with

Last year was fun but I think some of you are forgetting December and that absolute trash run in February. Even at the end we were barely beating teams like Montreal.

They absolutely had the same things we have seen this year. It's just they shot at a high % to hide their flaws for so long. Remember losing to the Sharks? Ducks? Yotes twice? Sounds familiar.

 

[Winger98]

Last year was fun but I think some of you are forgetting December and that absolute trash run in February. Even at the end we were barely beating teams like Montreal.

They absolutely had the same things we have seen this year. It's just they shot at a high % to hide their flaws for so long. Remember losing to the Sharks? Ducks? Yotes twice? Sounds familiar.

and forgetting the constant posts about how our offense was unsustainable and would eventually come back down. Fair chance we're seeing that this season, and that last year was just an outlier.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

and forgetting the constant posts about how our offense was unsustainable and would eventually come back down. Fair chance we're seeing that this season, and that last year was just an outlier.

Well...why has the offense dropped off a cliff this year?