JackFr
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And St. Louis still had Alex Pietrangelo, who they drafted 4th overall.St. Louis is the one I was referring to. I expect Eichel will make the HOF, and is a HOF level talent regardless
And St. Louis still had Alex Pietrangelo, who they drafted 4th overall.St. Louis is the one I was referring to. I expect Eichel will make the HOF, and is a HOF level talent regardless
It's slightly different because the Penguins flat out didn't have the money to go get a guy like Marner in 01 to 04. Once the revenue sharing took over, they splurged in FA with hilarious results but still.The odds we get McKenna or Landon Dupont or Maddox Schultz etc. are very slim. Everyone knows that. No ones thinks anything is guaranteed. But we need to give ourselves a shot at them, and in the process of doing so we should end up with some really great talent even if we don't get the lottery luck.
If the Pens had been desperate for Lemieux to win a Cup in his final few years + get playoff ticket revenue and spent a bunch of money on free agents and finished 15/14th in 2003 and 2004 and we missed out on a chance at Fleury, Malkin, and Sid, how would the franchise have been looking.
So 2 of...how many? Vegas also had Eichel who would have been a 1st OV in nearly every draft from 2017 to 2022. St Louis is the extreme exception but even they had Pietro who was a 4ov.I'd say St Louis and Vegas fit into the anomaly category.
I think 4 nations showed us that Sid still has enough juice to be as good of a center as Mathews could be for him. I think that's one of the appeals of coming here. If he's coming here though, it's with the understanding that there will eventually be a rebuild but you might get 2-4 decent years with Sid on a team that is still looking for one last shot. Not like you're signing in Buffalo or Nashville where it looks destitute.You’re way overthinking it
If he leaves Toronto he’s leaving the best C of any single team that could sign him and coming here because we gave him the best contract.
You simply BS him a little about being good a year from now. Ultimately we are not much different than anyone else who could afford him, besides the Leafs and the Canes but the Canes aren’t gonna give him a competitive contract structure IMO.
St. Louis is the one I was referring to. I expect Eichel will make the HOF, and is a HOF level talent regardless
Gotcha.
I just don't think HOF is the right criteria for what you're trying to convey (even though I kind of agree with your message).
Eichel is a very good player. I wouldn't call him elite. Would you even put him in the top 10 centers in the league? Eh...it's a stretch.
He’s 8th in league in points and the only centers who have more are Mack, Drai, and McDavid.Gotcha.
I just don't think HOF is the right criteria for what you're trying to convey (even though I kind of agree with your message).
Eichel is a very good player. I wouldn't call him elite. Would you even put him in the top 10 centers in the league? Eh...it's a stretch.
He’s 8th in league in points and the only centers who have more are Mack, Drai, and McDavid.
What I meant to say was "when they won the Cup"
He was working his way back from injury. I know he's killing it THIS year.
Nah bro. Led them in scoring despite playing less than 70 games and he should’ve won the Smythe that yearWhat I meant to say was "when they won the Cup"
He was working his way back from injury. I know he's killing it THIS year.
When they won the cup Eichel had 26 points in 22 games.
I assume you're talking playoff games.
I was looking at RS - he had 66 points in 60 some games.
Yeah he’s closer to top 5 (if not top 5) than he is top 10. Leads his team by nearly 30 points this year too.He's a top 10 center by PPG since entering the league. He's a top 10 center by PPG since joining Vegas.
Anyone that watches Eichel should know he's a top ten center.
He's a top 10 center by PPG since entering the league. He's a top 10 center by PPG since joining Vegas.
Anyone that watches Eichel should know he's a top ten center.
Winning the lottery this year doesn’t disqualify them from McKenna
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that a team can draft #1 indefinitely so long as they finish 32nd and the lotto winners are teams just moving up 10 spots to number #2 or further back. I.e.; #12 and #13 lotto teams win the lotto and move up to #2 and #3 in the draft. 32nd place team automatically drafts #1 and it doesn't count against the lotto "wins" allocated for twice in five years.For some reason I thought it was once in a 5 year span, not twice in a 5 year span.
I always thought that "we can't win the lottery this year because they need to win the lottery next year" argument I've seen on here was based on that.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that a team can draft #1 indefinitely so long as they finish 32nd and the lotto winners are teams just moving up 10 spots to number #2 or further back. I.e.; #12 and #13 lotto teams win the lotto and move up to #2 and #3 in the draft. 32nd place team automatically drafts #1.
Yeah so this year if SJ gets the first overall pick it doesn’t count as a “win”Someone correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that a team can draft #1 indefinitely so long as they finish 32nd and the lotto winners are teams just moving up 10 spots to number #2 or further back. I.e.; #12 and #13 lotto teams win the lotto and move up to #2 and #3 in the draft. 32nd place team automatically drafts #1.
I think people want the lottery win options open for McKenna + DuPont over Schaeffer/Misa + McKenna.Winning the lottery this year doesn’t disqualify them from McKenna
Which is incredibly stupidI think people want the lottery win options open for McKenna + DuPont over Schaeffer/Misa + McKenna.
I would take McKenna+DuPont over McKenna+Schaeffer every single day of the week. Not too often a "generational dman" comes knocking - IF he continues as promised.Which is incredibly stupid