Was Lafenierre the consensus #1 pick? I know with Slafkovský there was talk of Shane Wright. Slafkovský should have definitely spent his post draft year in the AHL or SHL.
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Yes Lafreniere was a runaway #1 pick that was considered a Stamkos/Tavares caliber prospect.
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I'd say in a redraft Tim Stutzle probably takes that spot away from him. Though there's still time for him to make good on the pick.
I'd have Stutzle, Byfield, Raymond, Sanderson, Jarvis and Faber all higher in a re-draft currently.
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Im not a complete Laf hater but he’s not top 10 in a redraft (tbf it’s too early to do one imo) if you do one today
In no order:
Sanderson
Stutzle
Raymond
Byfield
Jarvis
Peterka
Rossi
Faber
Holloway
Lundell
Guhle
Are all guys I take over him right now. Nikishin could be there soon but he hasn’t played
I think Laf comes in as the best of the next tier
Laf
Cuylle
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Perfetti
Foerster
Laferriere (LAK)
Schneider
Quinn
Grieg
Two notes— Honestly an insane draft from the Sens. Jesus. Probably 1st and 2nd pick if you do a redraft today (I think Byfield could ascend but they didn’t have chance to pick him). They got Kleven too who I like but is a little green.
Also a pretty solid draft overall. Above doesn’t even include Drysdale, Bourque, Zary, Colangelo, Evangelista, Concalves, Mercer and I’m sure more guys + goalies will start coming out the woodworks in next few years. Lot of solid players.
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Laf is a great example of why I’m not like losing my mind over Misa this year (I still take him 2). I think Misa is better skater but tbh there’s a ton of similarities.
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That's probably fair but Pan, Miller, Zibs, and Kreider are all early 30s. If they wanted to try for another run, it's reasonable to do so. No different that us in 2019-2021-ish. We knew they were getting old but it was still reasonable to try.
All three. As pointed out with the redraft replies, that draft was kinda all over. Not to mention it was one of the covid drafts and I think scouting abilities really took a hit.
If you are trading for him, you are 90% trading for the player he is now - meaning that 40-50pt top line wing. 10% hoping that he gets above that 57pt mark and makes it into the 60s. If you don't have a top quality 1C, I'm not sure it's worth the price tag. If it's 2015 and Kessel was Lafreniere, I would have interest in the same way I had interest in Oshie and Kessel. With with both Sid and Geno on the cusp of retirement, nah. I mean, really, we have in Rust what we'd want out of Lafreniere, only we have him for $2mil less.
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I wouldn’t say don’t trade for him, could be an interesting rehab project. But I do think we should be looking at why guys like Laf and Slavkofsky are having such massive troubles adapting/developing and learn from it.
Not a single person here has said don't trade for Lafreniere or that he straight up sucks though.
People have questions over who he is and what his ceiling is, but that doesn't equal a straight up no. Not even with Lafreniere being a lot more expensive to acquire than Strome was for the Caps.
Fair, but I guess my point is more you have to be willing to take those risks if you want any chance on the reward.
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But....but...he had a sweepstakes named after him...?
But in all seriousness, I think Laf would be a good target (although probably unrealistic for the Rags to send him in the division), but I'm not trading a 1st for him. I think at this point, it's safe to say he's not a franchise cornerstone and even though it's highly unlikely whoever they pick at #11 (or #12) will be either, we need as many shots at one that we can get.
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If Laf was a free agent and signed for $3.5M like Strome did, I think everyone would be on board.
Talking about trading a 1st for him while he's making $7M+ a year for the next 7 years changes the calculus a bit.
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Laf just doesn't have ANY of that "it" factor to me. That is a nebulous claim at best but I think everyone knows what I'm talking about.
Like... the first few times I saw Michkov play for the Flyers I was like "f***... this is gonna be a long-standing problem."
The first few times I saw Laf play was not nearly as impactful to say the least.
Like... the first few times I saw Michkov play for the Flyers I was like "f***... this is gonna be a long-standing problem."
The first few times I saw Laf play was not nearly as impactful to say the least.
Right it’s a risk for sure. Is it this years first or next years because I don’t think we’re getting something great this year.
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That seems a little rich to me.
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I agree I just don’t see another combo of assets to get him with.
it’s rich but I’m also thinking “if thats your 2C or better for a decade it’s okay to overpay”
I also think if rebuild goes poorly/longer than hoped and he doesn’t fit timeline you’ll recoup it moving him out.
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Yeah, I'm not making a 5'9" guy my 2C.
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I would not trade for Rob Rossi, no.
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5'11" 200 lbs with huge legs and a butt the size of Rhode Island.
Rossi is 5'9" 182 lbs.
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Not even if he came with a small bundle of middling Dairy Queens in Western PA?
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Hes pretty thick so I bet he’s more like 195-200
Anyway even as listed he’s heavier or as heavy as than Point (who’s won cups as a 1C), Kadri (won a cup as a 2C), Jack Hughes, etc. strong and plays well along boards. His size is not an issue to me especially since he’s proven he can be a solid 2C at 23 years old.
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