Salary Cap: 24-25 Salary Thread Crosbicles Volume MXVI: End of season wrap up

[BrookswasHere44]

I just want to find a way to get McKenna. We honestly deserve to have the next generational kid

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

Dubas said it was a five minute conversation between him and Sid. I bet the conversation went something like this:

Dubas: Hey Sid. Sorry to tell you this, but we're moving on from Sully.

Sid: That's unfortunate.

Dubas: Yeah. We're still trying to build a winner here and I'll keep plugging away doing xyz to try and get us back into contention.

Sid: Sounds good, I appreciate the head's up.

*click*

I doubt it went any deeper than that. People have been fiending for Sid to get upset at shit the Pens have done for years now and it's never happened lol

New number, who dis?

 

[SEALBound]

Oh 100%. There's no way he's saying anything controversial even on the phone. My man is too guarded for that.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he's a little tipsy around the boys.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he's a little tipsy around the boys.

Crosby apparently has a dirtier mouth than drunken sailors when he's on the ice.

It has to be increased by a billion after a few.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Karlsson to Montreal could be an interesting option. Young core in need of veteran presence, very weak on the right side.

Karlsson @ 6-7M for Anderson, Beck/Mesar, and Mailloux

Absolutely f***ing not.

f*** off with that bullshit.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

@Honour Over Glory would be p***ed if the Pens acquired Mailloux.

Everyone should. Mailloux is a f***ing loser piece of shit. Swap that f***ing out for someone else.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

And I do believe he has already stated they have done enough of those kinds of deals, and he has said they are switching to the next part of their plan. Nothing has changed in the plan because Sully was let go.

Karlsson's power of where he goes dictates the return. Kyle is at the mercy of or he holds onto him.

People reading into him wanting Karlsson to do more when the entire team is lacking seriously (his own admission) calling out Karlsson seems kind of stupid for him doing Karlsson things "he's always done."

Dubas literally called him out for being himself.

Calling trading UFA's rebuilding..... Ha.....

Maybe they need to trade top players with term before you can call it that.

The Capitals method.....

Maybe you should stick to the Pirates, it's your kind of play book.

I think it was more or less Dubas just addressing Karlsson because of a bunch of mouth breaking fat f***s in the Pens media loved to make him the scapegoat for literally no f***ing reason. Karlsson was a beast when his coach wasn’t a dipshit in the 4 nations series.

Quinn was always a stupid choice to coach the D and I stated that the moment he was hired. Karlsson was one of the players that took small jabs at the coaching and I don’t think Dubas wanted to address that but had to say something anyway. But he’s a player I think just rebounds from the coaching staff change immediately. I think most of this roster does.

Trash like Acciari, a coach with a brain makes him a 13th forward like he belongs and not a regular like Sullivan kept doing. Stuff like that. It’s funny because when Sully came over he did the same for MJ’s pets. Then when Sully lost the Assistants that held him in check, he went full Sully and just started playing favourites with no one telling him “hey does playing him there make sense?”

I move EK if a team wants him. Not to shop him just to shop him. It’s a stupid thing to do right now. A new coach can get more out of him and raise his value and at the deadline, you can retain a little bit and get a lot more back that way. Under Sully, players lost a f***ton of value. Only the good players that somehow found a way to just work in spite of his stupidity as a coach, kept doing well (Rakell).

In camp, I wouldn’t even give Tomatoes and Novak a regular spot either. If a lad from wbs out plays them, bye wankers. Go be middling trash for someone else.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Dubas said it was a five minute conversation between him and Sid. I bet the conversation went something like this:

Dubas: Hey Sid. Sorry to tell you this, but we're moving on from Sully.

Sid: That's unfortunate.

Dubas: Yeah. We're still trying to build a winner here and I'll keep plugging away doing xyz to try and get us back into contention.

Sid: Sounds good, I appreciate the head's up.

*click*

I doubt it went any deeper than that. People have been fiending for Sid to get upset at shit the Pens have done for years now and it's never happened lol

Sid probably threw in a, "I'll text Geno and Tanger to give them the heads up. You want me to talk to anyone else?"

Dubas: "No, that's OK. Thank you. We'll have John Doe in player relations get in touch with everyone else this evening."

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Sid probably threw in a, "I'll text Geno and Tanger to give them the heads up. You want me to talk to anyone else?"

Dubas: "No, that's OK. Thank you. We'll have John Doe in player relations get in touch with everyone else this evening."

Josh Yohe article - “Sidney Crosby texted me that the firing of Sullivan and how it went about was not how we do things in Pittsburgh, he was an emotional wreck, there are fears he might not get Malkin’s wingers anymore and feels this is all Ron Hextall’s fault.”

 

[Honour Over Glory]

The most interesting part outside of the coaching vacancies that’s been lost in all of this is the Islanders finally punting Lou out entirely. The new GM (some say Darche could be a good candidate there) could also fire Roy and hire his own coach.

I think it’s funny a dipshit like Pat Verbeek hasn’t been fired, I hear he really wants Joel Quenneville, f***ing gross. I wish GM’s would just black ball that f***ing loser entirely.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I feel like Roy was coaching to get fired as the season wore on. Dude hates it in Long Island.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Ah, Tocchet confirmed not returning. I bet Rutherford is reaching out to Sully now.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Ah, Tocchet confirmed not returning. I bet Rutherford is reaching out to Sully now.

15:20 He's not going there...

 

[Ugene Magic]

Sully: Really, it's down to Boston/New York.

Not that I care which, but I would think having the chance to coach his son-in-law would weigh in on him.

Both present a challenge, but Boston also has Pasta/Swayman and with their high pick there's more opportunity there in my eyes than NY while also being home bound being another reason (closer to family).

 

[Penguin Suited Up]

Sully: Really, it's down to Boston/New York.

Not that I care which, but I would think having the chance to coach his son-in-law would weigh in on him.

Both present a challenge, but Boston also has Pasta/Swayman and with their high pick there's more opportunity there in my eyes than NY while also being home bound being another reason (closer to family).

Not that I disagree with you, but I don’t think either of those teams in their current states are placed Sullivan should want to go. He’d be better off waiting to see if a team like Tampa wants a coaching change.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Not that I disagree with you, but I don’t think either of those teams in their current states are placed Sullivan should want to go. He’d be better off waiting to see if a team like Tampa wants a coaching change.

Possibly. But him wanting to be closer to home/Family kind of defeats the purpose going to Tampa. I get the better team makeup and that for sure.

 

[Penguin Suited Up]

Possibly. But him wanting to be closer to home/Family kind of defeats the purpose going to Tampa. I get the better team makeup and that for sure.

I don’t know that it does. Tampa isn’t a long flight from Logan, and a lot of New England’s retire down there, as you’d expect.

My thought is as long is the team is in the East, its game for Sullivan.

 

[Empoleon8771]

After watching some more clips of Hallander, I think I'm fully supportive of penciling him in on the 3rd line immediately rather than expecting him to be a healthy scratch. His playstyle looks a lot like a Kapanen and Hornqvist hybrid, his puck carrying and offensive tendencies look extremely similar to Kapanen while he's also a net front guy like Hornqvist. That's pretty much exactly what the 3rd line needs, so I'd be planning on him being the 3rd line LW going into the year.

Something I'd be advocating for is selling Rakell while bumping Tomasino into the top-6. I was going to type out a question asking where Heinen is going to fit in the lineup, because I think he's a guy you want to keep to see if he can bounce back and provide some positive value next year. But you can solve that issue with selling Rakell and bumping Tomasino to Malkin's line. This gives you the chance to pump up both Heinen's value and Tomasino's value while also selling high on Rakell.

I already posted this, but my goal is to enter next year with at least 4 forwards and 2 defenseman 24 or younger in their lineup. The goal should be at minimum Koivunen, McGroarty, Tomasino, Ponomarev, Pickering and Brunicke in regular and notable roles, with only replacing one of those guys for another young guy. If they can acquire someone like Byram or another RFA to be one of those 24 or younger guys, I'm all for that as well.

The goal lineup I have for next year is something like gaining 2 1sts for selling Karlsson and Rakell and running with:

Koivunen-Crosby-Rust
McGroarty-Malkin-Tomasino
Hallander-Novak-Heinen
Dewar-Lizotte-Ponomarev
Hayes

Byram-Letang
Pickering-Walker
Graves-Brunicke
Shea-Kolyachonok

Jarry-Blomqvist

 

[pistolpete11]

You keep saying this over and over again but Dubas literally never said that.

This is Rakell all over again, you're saying that 1st round picks mean nothing and acting like this team isn't rebuilding because you don't want them to be rebuilding.

He said that almost verbatim, actually.

Dubas: Penguins’ Revamp Ready to Enter Next Phase

CRANBERRY — The process has not been particularly quick or painless for the Pittsburgh Penguins, but president of hockey operations/general manager Kyle Dubas believes it is proceeding as planned. And, more to the point, has reached a point when the focus can shift, at least somewhat, to adding...

pittsburghhockeynow.com

“We spent the last 12 months, almost exactly, accruing assets and accruing flexibility and cap space,” he said after the NHL trade deadline passed Friday. “Now, we begin to shift to the execution of that (plan). That will be drafting players using some (acquired choices) … I don’t know that it’s feasible to expect that we can use all of those draft picks … and then expect all of them, in sequence, to become part of the club.

“We’ll have those assets available for trade. We’ll have cap space available in free agency. We’ll shift here, a little bit, from asset-collection — continue down that path, but also looking to how we can use the assets we’ve acquired. … It’s going to require patience. It may not be as quick as some like, but that’s what we intend to do. Our goals, as I’ve stated here a number of times, is to return the team to contention as early as possible.”

The fact they DIDN'T trade Rakell, fired Sullivan, and have talked about using their assets and cap space....Not making a judgement on whether they should, but...I think it's clear they are looking to start to improve the NHL roster.

Now, he does say they will still continue down the path of asset collection, so trading guys off the roster sounds like it is still on the table, but he says they will use those assets. I don't think they are interested in only getting back futures and a worse player who they flip for more futures anymore. If they make more of those trades, look for them to use those assets and/or cap space to add to the team.

Karlsson in particular could get traded. Seems he's worn out his welcome with Dubas and if he's checked out, it's best for everybody to move on. Could also be that he was just checked out of Sullivan. Guess we'll see.

 

[IcedCapp]

Dubas said it was a five minute conversation between him and Sid. I bet the conversation went something like this:

Dubas: Hey Sid. Sorry to tell you this, but we're moving on from Sully.

Sid: That's unfortunate.

Dubas: Yeah. We're still trying to build a winner here and I'll keep plugging away doing xyz to try and get us back into contention.

Sid: Sounds good, I appreciate the head's up.

*click*

I doubt it went any deeper than that. People have been fiending for Sid to get upset at shit the Pens have done for years now and it's never happened lol

Take takes 15 seconds. What did they talk about for the other 4:45?

Wrong answers only

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

No not the Kraken, the Habs. Just make sure the note is in french.

Technically the note doesn't even exist nor is valid if it isn't in French.
What a stupid providence. Just succeed already

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

RIP the chances at getting 1st overall

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

I bet Sid talks on the phone and texts the exact same way he speaks to the media.

Sid had AI chat 20 years before it even hit the mainstream market

 

[Empoleon8771]

He said that almost verbatim, actually.

Dubas: Penguins’ Revamp Ready to Enter Next Phase

CRANBERRY — The process has not been particularly quick or painless for the Pittsburgh Penguins, but president of hockey operations/general manager Kyle Dubas believes it is proceeding as planned. And, more to the point, has reached a point when the focus can shift, at least somewhat, to adding...

pittsburghhockeynow.com

The fact they DIDN'T trade Rakell, fired Sullivan, and have talked about using their assets and cap space....Not making a judgement on whether they should, but...I think it's clear they are looking to start to improve the NHL roster.

Now, he does say they will still continue down the path of asset collection, so trading guys off the roster sounds like it is still on the table, but he says they will use those assets. I don't think they are interested in only getting back futures and a worse player who they flip for more futures anymore. If they make more of those trades, look for them to use those assets and/or cap space to add to the team.

Karlsson in particular could get traded. Seems he's worn out his welcome with Dubas and if he's checked out, it's best for everybody to move on. Could also be that he was just checked out of Sullivan. Guess we'll see.

He didn't say "he has done enough accumulating assets". Yes, he said he needs to shift more towards using those picks to draft and acquire quality young players, but they never said they weren't going to stop acquiring assets.

I could completely see them trading Karlsson for futures and then flipping futures for someone like Byram. I wouldn't be surprised at that whatsoever. But there's no reason to claim that this team is done selling players because Dubas did not say this team was done selling players.

 

[xlm34]

RIP the chances at getting 1st overall

It’ll still be alive when they trade Karlsson for Carolina’s first.