Salary Cap: 24-25 Salary Thread Crosbicles Volume MXIIX: Rust out, Marner in, all part of the plan!

[Honour Over Glory]

Did this ever get talked about?

Lol f***ing wankers. Good riddance.

 

[TimmyD]

Wow can't blame Sullivan. Got the bag and got to choose his staff. Must have really wooed the Rangers considering his record recently wasn't great.

I don’t really think he had to do much wooing to be honest. I think the Rangers wanted him and only him and were willing to give in to any demands he may have had in order to get him.

 

[Andy P]

Wow can't blame Sullivan. Got the bag and got to choose his staff. Must have really wooed the Rangers considering his record recently wasn't great.

Apparently Chris Drury is a terrible GM and only made the hiring because Mike represented the American team. The accouncer's talked him up so much for how far he led the team but when you have all stars on every line at every position.. that's going to happen. They are going to be good... that's why they are hand picked even though its the GM that has the final say (who was Dubas) lol

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Hey Rangers fans... at least your powerplay will be good or something.

 

[Lust for Life]

I'm hoping we never have to talk about Mike Sullivan or David Quinn again.

If y'all are still bitchin' about the Jake trade what makes you think this board will stop talking about Sullivan

 

[Ugene Magic]

48 hours before the draft.

7:00 PM on June 25 to be exact.

 

[Malkinstheman]

I still think the Pens should just buyout guys like Hayes, Acciari, Heninen etc if you can't get anything for them the next 12 days. Better to keep the spots open for more cap dumps or young players

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I don't think this team should bother buying anybody out. There aren't a ton of prospects who should be given spots yet, and I don't think teams are gonna be chomping at the bit to trade assets to dump guys like Hayes or Glass this year with the jump. Or maybe they are in order to get a bit more wiggle room to chase a big fish, I dunno.

Either way, I don't think it super matters much. This team should be actively trying to be as dogshit as possible. Put Acciari, Hayes and Heinen in top 6 roles tbh.

 

[Empoleon8771]

There isn’t a reason to buy out their depth guys, they need guys to play NHL minutes especially because guys like Ponomarev and Kral left. Teams aren’t going to be paying as much to dump people this year, plus you can still waive those guys and stash them in WBS if you can manage to get paid to take on some cap dumps.

Buying out anyone doesn’t really benefit the Penguins at all.

 

[Jacob]

I think we can probably get a pick on the 2nd day of the draft for Acciari. I'm thinking of a lot of teams that see themselves as contenders but have mediocre PKs or faceoff #s. Winnipeg for one. Edmonton too.

Heinen is probably a guy you can find a home for when free agency is over and suddenly $2 million for what he brings sounds like a bargain after someone's given Pius Suter $4.25 million.

I don't really hate the guy but we need to go in a different, younger, faster direction. He's an anchor on his line.

 

[Malkinstheman]

You can easily find guys to play minutes in free agency. Even with the cap going up there's still gonna be a decent number of teams who need to dump contracts like the Leafs, Oilers, Stars etc

 

[Andy P]

I think your guys like Heinen, Hayes, Ned are your prime candidates to be the trade deadline markers for teams like Colorado, TB, Florida, LAK, LVGN, teams that are trying for the stanley cup but will have about 1-2 million in cap space. Dubas can eat half their salary to maximize their gain but buyouts just don't make sense right now

 

[DesertedPenguin]

I still think the Pens should just buyout guys like Hayes, Acciari, Heninen etc if you can't get anything for them the next 12 days. Better to keep the spots open for more cap dumps or young players

No need to waste a buyout spot on them. They can either be traded now or at the deadline. Worst case scenario, you bury them in the AHL for a similar cap impact as a buyout.

 

[Sideline]

I'm not buying our anyone right now if I am Dubas. This team is bad. It's going to stay bad even if they hit a homerun and sign Marner. If there is a market for Heinen, Hayes, Acciari at the draft by all means take a pick for any of them, but there's no reason to keep their cap hits around for an extra year.

 

[Rave7215]

What's crazy to me about the discord for the Guentzel trade is that if we had gotten a First for him and selected Brunicke anyway, people would be absolutely praising that trade and finding a future stud defenceman. Instead, because he was selected with a second, the trade is ass. People are insane around here

 

[TojoP]

I feel like Nashville will wake up and prob be a seller at some point. If they don’t they are idiots (which may be the case).

Flames are in a weird spot but prob should be sellers… right? Kraken could maybe elect to move some pieces as well. A lot of short term deals for older players expiring there soon.

Don’t really see another team in the East. Maybe the Bs but who do they have left to sell?

I’d say that the Pens, Preds, and Kraken end up being sellers this summer. Which is still super low but don’t see how it’s just us.

Maybe by the deadline they will, but ot sounds like Trotz isn't willing to admit his big spending spree was a mistake just yet and they'll give it another try this year.

It really is setting up nice for this off-season for us to sell. So now let's prepare to be disappointed when Dubas doesnt move people.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

@JackFr

Kotka and Frondell never should be mentioned together again lmao

 

[TojoP]

There isn’t a reason to buy out their depth guys, they need guys to play NHL minutes especially because guys like Ponomarev and Kral left. Teams aren’t going to be paying as much to dump people this year, plus you can still waive those guys and stash them in WBS if you can manage to get paid to take on some cap dumps.

Buying out anyone doesn’t really benefit the Penguins at all.

The forwards I can agree aren't blocking much. I'd rather see guys like Hallander and Poulin, but that's a small impact in the grand scheme. And maybe a new coach will be less afraid to waive a vet for a younger guy to maintain depth (or just loves certain plugs).

The one I'd really like to move is Ned (assuming nobody wants Jarry). They do need to start figuring out if Blomqvist or Larsson can play here. Let Murashov get more AHL time. Just start figuring this spot out because it's the only one with an abundance of prospects close to the NHL.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Here's the thing: what is the Malkin succession plan? And sorry, I don't accept answers like, "who cares, we must tank woohoo" and other bullshit. No seriously, what is the plan for 2C?

If we are smart, we draft or trade for a young center to play on the third line this season, between Malkin and Novak (let's say). And then next season, you are better prepared for life without Malkin.

Malkin turns 39 next month. He is coming off the equivalent of a 60-point season. Missing 14 games was obviously a factor last season. Spending a big chunk of the season on PP2 was also a factor. The tire fire that was this whole team last season was also a factor.

We need a legitimate succession plan for this idea (moving on from Malkin post-2025-26) or else you bring him back. That is just reality.

To the people suggesting we need to move on from the dinosaurs, OK. Don't we need legitimate young centers to be able to do that? Our center depth chart right now is laughable. Many of us have been stressing this point for months.

Hell, if this man wants to stay beyond this season, we could use him on the fourth line and power-play minutes. Why not? Who is he holding back? Sam Poulin? Poulin can play wing if he finally figures things out. Ponomarev is signed for three seasons in the KHL now. Tristan Broz? Is he a fourth-line center? Maybe. Is he part of the future? Maybe. Could you squeeze him into this lineup if he shows something? Of course you can.

Until this draft is over, and we are comfortable with what we drafted from the center position, Malkin is still our best option behind Crosby. It may sound CRAZY to some. But the depth chart is what it is.

I really want to see Rossi or Borque brought in to play wing on the second line, and then slide over. Or just say screw it, right to center, and staple Geno to Sid for his last ride.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

@JackFr

Kotka and Frondell never should be mentioned together again lmao

Both Lundell and Luostarinen were tremendous.

You'd think after three-straight Cup finals appearances, at least ONE announcer would get close to pronouncing the latter's name.

 

[DesertPenguin]

IMO if you want to properly support Malkin, I’d be advocating for keeping Rust and playing him with Malkin. I think it could be a good idea to do a two-part trade where you do:

1. Rakell to LAK for Spence and pick #24
2. Spence to Buffalo for Quinn

Run with McGroarty-Crosby-Quinn on L1 and Koivunen-Malkin-Rust on L2. I can see a need for the Penguins keeping Spence as well, but I figure any EK trade will involve the Penguins taking a RD back.

If we do that, how about #12 and Spence to BUF for Byram, 2 2nds to TBL for Howard.

McGroarty Crosby Howard
Koivunen Malkin Rust

And oh by the way Kyle's #1 objective of adding to the left side is taken care of.

 

[DesertPenguin]

So trade in 3, 2, 1......?

Strap in. Teams typically don't announce major trades or signings while the Cup final is going. League doesn't like to steal the spotlight. Give the Panthers today to bask in the win, and tomorrow they start wheeling and dealing.

 

[DesertPenguin]

I still think the Pens should just buyout guys like Hayes, Acciari, Heninen etc if you can't get anything for them the next 12 days. Better to keep the spots open for more cap dumps or young players

No need to buy them out. We have cap now, might not in a couple years. Just send them to the A and burn those contracts off the books this season.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Wow can't blame Sullivan. Got the bag and got to choose his staff. Must have really wooed the Rangers considering his record recently wasn't great.

He's really good at talking.
Coaching =Not so much

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Strap in. Teams typically don't announce major trades or signings while the Cup final is going. League doesn't like to steal the spotlight. Give the Panthers today to bask in the win, and tomorrow they start wheeling and dealing.

Yup. Buyouts start in 48 hours. Draft is less than 10 days away. The fun is about to begin.