How much of a step back has he taken vs going from Zucker/Rust to Beauvillier/DOC? Two years ago when he played with Zucker/Rust he had the 26th most points in the league.
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come and take it.
Jag68Sid87
He's gone, gone gone!
ALSO, we have a new coach. Maybe not all is total bleakness everywhere.
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Every basement team is on the come up? Lol not. Much to our chagrin there will be at least five worse than this team.
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Every basement team will either be trying to improve (CHI, SJ, ANA, BUF etc.) or likely improve from regression (NSH, BOS)
The only ones I see as actively trying to get worse are Seattle and Philadelphia and you never know with either of those franchises. I think with the cap going up everyone's going to scrambling for ticket revenue.
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Unless Broz really erupts into something the future 2C is not in the system. They'll probably try to draft a couple of centers over the next two drafts and potentially even trade for young centers.
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How many have any hope of being franchise centers? Because that's what we will need in 2-3 years.
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He was great to start the season and then Sullivan decided to f*** him right over. Geno getting shit on by some twats that don’t get it is par for the course.
Also I don’t believe a f***ing thing Yohe says. If a new coach doesn’t pull the same dumb Sully shit, Geno will do well.
I also don’t give two f***s what some wanker that claims Muse was in his top two choices bs.
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Say Muse doesn’t f*** him over to wank off Sid, Geno goes ppg or better and out produces Sid, they would definitely ask him if he wants to play another year.
Because all the coach needs to do is literally the opposite of what Sullivan did, which was pure sabotage just to appease one player.
Even near the end, Koivunen was far better with Geno and he still f***ed him over one last time before his bitch ass was fired finally.
Because all the coach needs to do is literally the opposite of what Sullivan did, which was pure sabotage just to appease one player.
Even near the end, Koivunen was far better with Geno and he still f***ed him over one last time before his bitch ass was fired finally.
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I don’t think Seattle can afford to be shit another year, they’ll be ok to just barely miss but not be bottom 3. Francis f***ed that franchise so hard and coaches paid for it while his dumb ass just got fired to be promoted up and then they name the dipshit Botty Bots as the Gm.
They about to be a 5yrs old franchise and are on their 3rd coach.
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Malkin has been strictly worse since the COVID shutdown. The '19-'20 season he was their best player, easily. But then he was dreadful when they came back in 2021, saved by Kapanen being on the right cocktail of drugs to dominate for a month. He's had some highs and lows since then, but I don't think he's gotten notably worse in the last couple of years. As you mentioned, it's also been linemate-dependent.
He is still a far way off to how awful Carter was in his last year here. And he's earned the right to embarass himself on the ice like that if he wants to. The team isn't going anywhere regardless.
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I find it interesting that Rossi hasn't shared anything about Malkin or even shared Yohe's article on social media. He shared other content from The Athletic today, but not the big hockey story from his colleague.
Out of all of the local media, Rossi has gotten more one-on-ones and exclusives with Malkin. I can't help but wonder if Rossi has heard something different than Yohe but doesn't want to contradict his longtime colleague.
Out of all of the local media, Rossi has gotten more one-on-ones and exclusives with Malkin. I can't help but wonder if Rossi has heard something different than Yohe but doesn't want to contradict his longtime colleague.
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A real jerk thing
I don’t believe the report just given the fact that there is zero reason to say for sure he’s not coming back unless he’s retiring. And if he’s retiring then just say that. If he’s not retiring why would you close the door? Makes no sense.
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Two years ago he was also 36, and players regularly fall off dramatically in their late 30s.
Like I said, this place is completely bizarre when it comes to Malkin. Any sort of suggestion that Malkin has fallen off makes people insanely touchy and they’ll blame anything but the obvious, that players start declining in their late 30s. And there’s nothing wrong with that and it isn’t a criticism on Malkin.
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IMO if you want to properly support Malkin, I’d be advocating for keeping Rust and playing him with Malkin. I think it could be a good idea to do a two-part trade where you do:
1. Rakell to LAK for Spence and pick #24
2. Spence to Buffalo for Quinn
Run with McGroarty-Crosby-Quinn on L1 and Koivunen-Malkin-Rust on L2. I can see a need for the Penguins keeping Spence as well, but I figure any EK trade will involve the Penguins taking a RD back.
1. Rakell to LAK for Spence and pick #24
2. Spence to Buffalo for Quinn
Run with McGroarty-Crosby-Quinn on L1 and Koivunen-Malkin-Rust on L2. I can see a need for the Penguins keeping Spence as well, but I figure any EK trade will involve the Penguins taking a RD back.
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If you really want to support Malkin, put him on a wing with less responsibilities.
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Well yeah but that makes the whole “who else will you play at 2C if you let Malkin walk?” argument irrelevant.
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I feel like Poulin has been in the system for like ten years.
I think he's had a rough ride and some of it not his fault. But he seems like a 4th liner at the NHL level and even in that capacity I'm a little at a loss as to what his exact role is. Honestly he seems to even had a bit of a struggle at the AHL level.
I think he's had a rough ride and some of it not his fault. But he seems like a 4th liner at the NHL level and even in that capacity I'm a little at a loss as to what his exact role is. Honestly he seems to even had a bit of a struggle at the AHL level.
So, according to Yohe, no one is going to be traded lol…hint: only 2nd round picks or lower…that would be an awful offseason for Dubas…sorry
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Penguins trade tiers: Who is most and least likely to be traded this summer?
Everyone knows who the untouchable player is, but what about further down the lineup?
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So, according to Yohe, no one is going to be traded lol…hint: only 2nd round picks or lower…that would be an awful offseason for Dubas…sorry
Penguins trade tiers: Who is most and least likely to be traded this summer?
Everyone knows who the untouchable player is, but what about further down the lineup?
Well, since it’s Yohe, I expect the opposite to happen
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So all the buzz around us as sellers and all Yohe is hearing is that we're happy to keep all our good assets? okay.So, according to Yohe, no one is going to be traded lol…hint: only 2nd round picks or lower…that would be an awful offseason for Dubas…sorry
Penguins trade tiers: Who is most and least likely to be traded this summer?
Everyone knows who the untouchable player is, but what about further down the lineup?
Jag68Sid87
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Well, sure. But I mean even the golden child Gavin McKenna is not a franchise center. So maybe the next wave of Penguins will be built differently than what we have known in the past.
If the expectation is that we will bottom out, get two franchise centers and rinse/repeat, people around here are going to be in for quite a letdown.
Again, the key for me will be to avoid becoming the next Buffalo or Chicago.
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