Andy99
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He would of been a good choice. Time to move onto Provorov, Orlov, Gavrikov. Heck Dumo back for cheap would be interesting.
He would of been a good choice. Time to move onto Provorov, Orlov, Gavrikov. Heck Dumo back for cheap would be interesting.
OK I'll playRakell Crosby Marner
Malkin Novak Rust
McGroarty Broz Koivunen
Dewar Lizotte Tomasino
I thought the point wasn't to get success anymore but to get experience for the rookies, no?Malkin isn't good enough anymore to give him 2 rookies and hope that line has success.
He needs either Rakell or Rust or they need to acquire someone better from outside the organization to play with him.
McGroarty-Crosby-Rust
Koivunen-Malkin-Rakell
FA-Novak-Tomasino
Dewar-Lizotte-Acciari
Hallander-Heinen
Grzelcyk-Letang
FA-FA
Shea-Timmins
Kolyachonok
Nedjelkovic-Blomqvist
I’m guessing the base of the lineup will look pretty close to this. Jarry bought out, Graves either bought out or buried in the AHL and Karlsson and Hayes traded with the remaining spots being filled with UFA. I won’t assume Acciari will be gone until he’s officially gone.
And they’d be stupid not to if they want to achieve the stated goal of competing as soon as possible in Sid’s remaining tenure…chances of hitting every traded player in a Washington-like retool is very difficult to achieve…they need multiple years of top 5 draft picks
I thought the point wasn't to get success anymore but to get experience for the rookies, no?
That team would have like 30 million in cap space. Also no reason Pickering isn’t in that line up. He should be with the big club next year ahead of someone like Shea. Shea sucks
Exactly. Now youre getting it.Why are we adding Marner but then subtracting Karlsson? That makes zero sense. Even trading Rakell makes little sense if we are adding Marner. The only guy that makes sense would be trading Rust, since Marner would be taking that spot in the lineup. But we could do the sensible thing and move Rust down the lineup to actually have some top-9 forward balance for a change.
Trying to prop up Geno at this stage where he should be dropped to 3C or a RW is dubious at best.
People trying to hold onto Geno as some force to coddle to is beyond stupid. He'll bring down Crosby's line, Rakell on Geno's line doesn't work, either.
This is all fantasy stuff people "HOPE" will work.
Geno turns 39 this summer.
Geno is not a LW'er since he always defers to the RW. He's mainly tried there for PP purposes to shake things up.View attachment 1002587
Geno - Sid - Marner
Sid and Marner do the heavy lifting and defensive work. Geno just needs to get into position to shoot.
Just don’t have shea on the team. Also that top pairing would be so awful.I don’t think that changes much, that would just leave them with probably 8 defenseman on the roster and Shea as a healthy scratch. Not only that, but that also takes away a forward spot for a 13th forward that I figure you want for Hallander or Ponomarev.
I don't think you even need a FA there on the 3LW. I think you can safely give that to Hallander or Heinen or even anyone on that 4th line and insert Poulin. The other option is to do another Hayes/Glass type trade where you get paid to take someone on. With the rumors that the cap might not go up as much as recently thought, it could crunch a team or two. Dallas - could get Marchment depending on who they want to keep or resign and Seguins situation. I think Toronto would be excited to dump Jarnkrok or Kampf. Could get a guy like Robertson for free. I might target a guy like Luostarinen in exchange for a guy like Bemstrom or Puustinen - a proven capable producer but dirt cheap but you get space in exchange.McGroarty-Crosby-Rust
Koivunen-Malkin-Rakell
FA-Novak-Tomasino
Dewar-Lizotte-Acciari
Hallander-Heinen
Grzelcyk-Letang
FA-FA
Shea-Timmins
Kolyachonok
Nedjelkovic-Blomqvist
I’m guessing the base of the lineup will look pretty close to this. Jarry bought out, Graves either bought out or buried in the AHL and Karlsson and Hayes traded with the remaining spots being filled with UFA. I won’t assume Acciari will be gone until he’s officially gone.
It's one or the other. I don't think adding Marner is happening unless there's a sudden demand from Sid or something. If they do, they are keeping Karlsson. But you're right, if they aren't adding Marner and then trading Karlsson. I'd much prefer moving Karlsson after the signing bonus is paid, collect 1-2 new young players, tank and get another high pick, then restart/retool/reshape in 2027.Why are we adding Marner but then subtracting Karlsson? That makes zero sense. Even trading Rakell makes little sense if we are adding Marner. The only guy that makes sense would be trading Rust, since Marner would be taking that spot in the lineup. But we could do the sensible thing and move Rust down the lineup to actually have some top-9 forward balance for a change.
I couldn't agree more which is why I've been harping on finding the next 2C for this organization, whether draft or trade. The idea situation, IMHO is the one that has a top line of Malkin-Sid-Rust/Rakell and then a 2nd line anchored by a new, young 2C. OR if they want to keep Raks and Rust with Sid, you put Malkin on the wing of the 2nd line. If you want to "do right by Geno", you find a complementary wing that will play to Geno's strengths.Trying to prop up Geno at this stage where he should be dropped to 3C or a RW is dubious at best.
People trying to hold onto Geno as some force to coddle to is beyond stupid. He'll bring down Crosby's line, Rakell on Geno's line doesn't work, either.
This is all fantasy stuff people "HOPE" will work.
Geno turns 39 this summer.
Yeah but the point is you can’t do both. Doesn’t matter what the team says.When has the team ever said that?
This team is still trying to be competitive, or they’ve at least said they want to be competitive as soon as possible.
Just don’t have shea on the team. Also that top pairing would be so awful.
You have to be more realistic. If this team stays on it's current trajectory they can absolutely be a bottom five team next season. And that would afford us our best prospect in decades. No one really believes we're getting McKenna or Dupont. But in next years draft you can most certainly get a player that's a core piece for your franchise for 10-15 years. That'd be better than anyone we currently have in the system. We could potentially get a similar piece THIS season if we stopped winning meaningless games! Lose as much as possible. Avoid McQueen please with that 1st pick!So is landing the consensus #1 prospect. Only one team can land that guy, and have you come up with a plan when you don't?
The normal draft procedure is almost a decade long venture, and you can still end up a Chicago, Buffalo, San Jose or even an Oilers team.