Salary Cap: '24-'25 Salary Thread: Crosbicles Volume MMXXVI: Sid is Still Goat

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yep. Pass first soft wingers are low low value. no thanks, never liked him.


you want the 1st next year. they need to keep losing.
No. I don't.

Rangers will bounce back next season. You risk the opportunity to pick mid first to later, I don't see the Rangers pick being above 15th overall next year at all. Drury is a wanker of a GM but if he has an elite goalie and some solid young players, which he does, he will likely make a coaching change this summer and they'll be back to being a better team..

Even incompetent teams figure out how to fix their shit quicker than the Pens ever will.

They need to lose to get into the top 13 so that pick gets into the much deeper 2026 draft.
Nah, that pick isn't going to be higher next year at all. They will be a better team next year. Because unlike the shit show we like, those teams actually make necessary changes when they've failed once or twice, let alone f***ing 3yrs straight and really, much longer than that.
 
Updated TDL plan:

-Rakell to LA for Moore and a 2026 1st
-2025 3rd to Washington for Lapierre
-Grzelcyk, Beauvillier and Acciari for a 3rd, 4th and 5th respectively

Moore-Crosby-Rust
Bunting-Malkin-Tomasino
Lapierre-Hayes-Heinen
Lizotte-Ponomarev-Glass

Shea-Letang
Kotya-Karlsson
Graves-Desharnais

- I don't understand your fascination with Trevor Moore, but I really hope that one does not happen. Rakell needs to be traded for a 2026 first AND a young player who can replace him, long term. No more Michael Bunting's, no more Kevin Hayes's and no more Cody Glass's.
If we are talking LA, I would do Rakell for a 2026 1st and Clark or perhaps Liam Greentree. If the answer is no, Crosby keeps his LW. We should not accept anything less. No settling for anything with either Rakell or Karlsson.

- That second one is a pipe dream. I would LOVE Hendrix Lapierre on this team but why would the Capitals trade one of their prized prospects to US of all teams? Not even if they like/want some of our current players would they entertain this one.

- The way things are going, I would be most pleased if we were able to ship out three players, including one with term, for three picks. But something tells me we are going to be taking back another veteran contract with term in one of the trades (at least). I hope I am wrong.


On another note, the Jake Evans re-signing by Montreal is a good one for them. But I really hope this does not give anyone in this organization the idea that we should sign Cody Glass to that deal. Because that would be a disaster.

And please say no to Cam Atkinson!
 
- I don't understand your fascination with Trevor Moore, but I really hope that one does not happen. Rakell needs to be traded for a 2026 first AND a young player who can replace him, long term. No more Michael Bunting's, no more Kevin Hayes's and no more Cody Glass's.
If we are talking LA, I would do Rakell for a 2026 1st and Clark or perhaps Liam Greentree. If the answer is no, Crosby keeps his LW. We should not accept anything less. No settling for anything with either Rakell or Karlsson.

"If we don't get something absolutely asinine and stupid for Rakell, I'm not trading him".

Literally zero teams are paying that kind of return for Rakell.
 
No. I don't.

Rangers will bounce back next season. You risk the opportunity to pick mid first to later, I don't see the Rangers pick being above 15th overall next year at all. Drury is a wanker of a GM but if he has an elite goalie and some solid young players, which he does, he will likely make a coaching change this summer and they'll be back to being a better team..

Even incompetent teams figure out how to fix their shit quicker than the Pens ever will.


Nah, that pick isn't going to be higher next year at all. They will be a better team next year. Because unlike the shit show we like, those teams actually make necessary changes when they've failed once or twice, let alone f***ing 3yrs straight and really, much longer than that.
I think the coaching situation holds the key to our NYR pick, to be honest. If they keep Laviolette, it probably means they could go into the tank next season. If they make a coaching change, then they are likely due for a bounce-back season.

I just like the idea of holding their first next year because it would definitely put some pressure on Drury. As a division rival, that is what you want.

They seem to have turned things around now but there is still time for a collapse. They have been beating teams that are out of it for the most part.

"If we don't get something absolutely asinine and stupid for Rakell, I'm not trading him".

Literally zero teams are paying that kind of return for Rakell.
Cool. He stays then.
 
I think the coaching situation holds the key to our NYR pick, to be honest. If they keep Laviolette, it probably means they could go into the tank next season. If they make a coaching change, then they are likely due for a bounce-back season.

I just like the idea of holding their first next year because it would definitely put some pressure on Drury. As a division rival, that is what you want.

They seem to have turned things around now but there is still time for a collapse. They have been beating teams that are out of it for the most part.


Cool. He stays then.
Holding it to next year is entirely up to how they finish this year and the changes he makes.

But I am pretty sure Laviolette is gone this summer if not sooner if they suddenly just tank or play like the Pens and are absolute garbage. They're 4-1 in their last 5 games too so it's not like they're on a bad run.

They're 7-3 since they got Miller. Personally I know that pick is going to be this year because they won't be bad enough to push it to next season.
 
Holding it to next year is entirely up to how they finish this year and the changes he makes.

But I am pretty sure Laviolette is gone this summer if not sooner if they suddenly just tank or play like the Pens and are absolute garbage. They're 4-1 in their last 5 games too so it's not like they're on a bad run.

They're 7-3 since they got Miller. Personally I know that pick is going to be this year because they won't be bad enough to push it to next season.
The Pens should keep the pick regardless of whether it's this year or next.

I'm worried that Dubas will move that pick in an effort to rebuild faster and I just don't see that working out as well as keeping the pick would have.
 
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Holding it to next year is entirely up to how they finish this year and the changes he makes.

But I am pretty sure Laviolette is gone this summer if not sooner if they suddenly just tank or play like the Pens and are absolute garbage. They're 4-1 in their last 5 games too so it's not like they're on a bad run.

They're 7-3 since they got Miller. Personally I know that pick is going to be this year because they won't be bad enough to push it to next season.
You are probably right. And we will miss the playoffs but I will continue to root for things to start going our way again. It's been a minute. :)

Ironically, I could see Drury asking for permission to speak to Mike Sullivan if/when he does fire Peter Laviolette. Just to add more spice to that 1st-rounder!
 
The Pens should keep the pick regardless of whether it's this year or next.

I'm worried that Dubas will move that pick in an effort to rebuild faster and I just don't see that working out as well as keeping the pick would have.
I don't think he will move it. I know he sees this team as a non playoff team but if he makes that move it's likely because FSG pressured him to push for a playoff spot or some dumb shit due to those laughable comments about being competitive for Crosby when they're too stupid to know that's probably one of the biggest problems with this team. They had a fantastic second line with even Bunting struggling, but destroyed it to fix Crosby rather than seeing it as a reason to make a move to help Sid vs f***ing Geno over. Sullivan then tanked all the other lines in the process with usage, deployment and minutes. Remember in the 4 Nations, media called out Cooper for not using all 4 lines, he then spread them out the rest of the way and won it all. Sullivan did Sullivan things, destroyed the US team and somehow no one with any f***ing guts wants to admit and just chalk it up as bad luck.

He moved Jake when most didn't think he would and those moves boosted the Pens prospect pool from 27th to 20th ranked after the draft too.

We're finally seeing our prospect pool have promise and it's all for absolute f***ing nothing if Sullivan is still here. Playing Acciari and other dumb f***ing garbage over young players.

I think Dubas' priority will be to move some vets this time vs how he kept Eller last year, he quickly moved him this year and learned his lesson. He's traded for Philly Tomatopaste and claimed Kolyachonok, he is trying to make this team younger and build a better pool and this dumb f*** coach is doing his best to do what he always does.

Remember when blokes in the media asked is wbs bad or is Sully not a fan of the youth and they said it could be both? Now wbs is painfully obvious they're good with youth and Sullivan still uses veteran garbage. There's no f***ing excuses for these dipshits.

I find a :eek::eek::eek::eek: like Yohe the most frustrating, I don't give two f***s about the media twats that post here because they're just sackless wankers anyway, but I remember his comments about Ian Cole and how Sullivan didn't like he was chummy with media and especially with him and how he noticed Sullivan would be very pissy about it and in that brief moment even a dumb dipshit like Yohe knew there was something very off about Sullivan and his control issues and instead of leaning into it, he just slid his tongue up his ass.
 
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Cool. He stays then.

Which accomplishes what, exactly?

I think some people here really need to come to reality that this team is totally spent at this point. Demanding a completely ridiculous return for Rakell that no team would ever pay is how you waste him as an asset. And for what, so he can put up 60 points for you as you're finishing 27th in the NHL?
 
I know it'd piss everyone off here but for fun if that wish by blogs and whatever that Sid ends up Colorado happens, I'd be happy for Sid to get a chance to win with a good mate of his in Nate as well as the fact that it might end up being the best thing for this franchise and it's future as much as anyone would ever want to admit. For one, Sullivan might actually want to leave it he isn't fired right after the season with no supposed endorsement from Sid anymore.

It's like - we were all mad when Jagr had those comments about dying alive and being traded. But in the end it was the catalyst for where this franchise ended up with 3 more cups and a lot of success. It's cool to see a player stay his whole career but I'd be fine still seeing him the same if he went to Colorado and retired there after another cup.

What's the alternative? Delaying the full rebuild this team needs and firing a coach that is entirely wrong for the position this franchise is in? Also, this franchise needs something that drastic to do something every other franchise does without pledging blind allegiance to a coach and ruining the team for him to be successful vs doing the right things.

At this point I'm actually hopeful with the prospect pool but also feel like it's pointless because they will never get the fair shot and guidance from the Pens head coach. They're better off playing for Kirk in Wbs where it'd be the only time they'll get development, be used correctly, and play in a winning environment with this franchise.

We joke about so and so being shit and yet they find ways to get back on track while the Pens double down on Sullivan and blaming the roster and GM for an unprecedented 8 f***ing seasons.
 
Which accomplishes what, exactly?

I think some people here really need to come to reality that this team is totally spent at this point. Demanding a completely ridiculous return for Rakell that no team would ever pay is how you waste him as an asset. And for what, so he can put up 60 points for you as you're finishing 27th in the NHL?
I’m just quoting this post because it was your most recent one.

You keep making all these deadline plans about Rakell, Gryz, etc. Then why the hell isn’t the clown with the glasses holding anyone out?
 
I’m just quoting this post because it was your most recent one.

You keep making all these deadline plans about Rakell, Gryz, etc. Then why the hell isn’t the clown with the glasses holding anyone out?

Because you can't hold out 4 players to trade when you only have 20 skaters on your roster? Do you expect them to enter a game with 15 or 16 skaters to "hold out" these guys who might be traded?

Teams selling generally don't hold out players for trade reasons unless a trade is already being finalized. And even then, it's like 1 guy being held out by a team.
 
Because you can't hold out 4 players to trade when you only have 20 skaters on your roster? Do you expect them to enter a game with 15 or 16 skaters to "hold out" these guys who might be traded?

Teams selling generally don't hold out players for trade reasons unless a trade is already being finalized. And even then, it's like 1 guy being held out by a team.
Not even one is getting held out. Can’t get that crazy Trevor Moore deal if Rakell gets injured tonight.
 
The number of players held out for trade reasons around the league each year is probably in the single digits or close to it.

It's not as common as people think.
I do think if there was any smoke around Rakell being traded at all he'd be held out, however. The fact that he's not suggests that there's nothing close and that he likely remains with the team.

Like it's one thing to not hold out Gryz or whatever 4th round fodder they have, but Rakell does have real value so if they were intent on trading him he'd be held out.

Same thing with EK. He has value. If Dubas felt there was a chance he could move, he wouldn't be playing.

So this is likely a quiet deadline for us imo. As we all suspected.
 
I do think if there was any smoke around Rakell being traded at all he'd be held out, however. The fact that he's not suggests that there's nothing close and that he likely remains with the team.

Like it's one thing to not hold out Gryz or whatever 4th round fodder they have, but Rakell does have real value so if they were intent on trading him he'd be held out.

Same thing with EK. He has value. If Dubas felt there was a chance he could move, he wouldn't be playing.

So this is likely a quiet deadline for us imo. As we all suspected.
Bingo
 
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I do think if there was any smoke around Rakell being traded at all he'd be held out, however. The fact that he's not suggests that there's nothing close and that he likely remains with the team.

Like it's one thing to not hold out Gryz or whatever 4th round fodder they have, but Rakell does have real value so if they were intent on trading him he'd be held out.

Same thing with EK. He has value. If Dubas felt there was a chance he could move, he wouldn't be playing.

So this is likely a quiet deadline for us imo. As we all suspected.

It will probably be a quiet deadline but I don't agree with your thought process here. Teams only scratch players for trade reasons when the trades are at the finish line. Not having a trade done at 4:30 PM on Tuesday doesn't mean they won't be traded by the Friday deadline. Teams don't preemptively scratch trade chips based on the thought that they might get traded.
 
It will probably be a quiet deadline but I don't agree with your thought process here. Teams only scratch players for trade reasons when the trades are at the finish line. Not having a trade done at 4:30 PM on Tuesday doesn't mean they won't be traded by the Friday deadline. Teams don't preemptively scratch trade chips based on the thought that they might get traded.
It's not impossible they get dealt, but it's highly unlikely imo. If talks were heating up at all those guys would be getting scratched to protect a potential trade. They're not being scratched, so clearly nothing is remotely close on them.

Although Dubas does have some protection in that all of our best trade chips have years remaining on their deals, so there is that. If EK or Rakell get hurt tonight it's not the end of the world as Dubas can still trade them in the off season. If either of them were UFAs they would 100% be getting scratched tonight. No question whatsoever.
 
His values at its highest why didn’t you trade him for the next Sam Poulin?!

Or they can trade him for the next David Pastrnak.

Some of the arguments against trading Rakell on here are absolutely bizarre. This team sucks and is rebuilding, why do they need to hold onto Rakell? That doesn't mean trade him for a shitty return, but a 1st rounder+ is not a shitty return for Rakell.

Do people forget that the Penguins got Rakell for Clang and a 2nd?
 
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