Salary Cap: '24-'25 Salary Thread: Crosbicles Volume MMXXVI: Sid is Still Goat

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as much as I expected Jarry to be back and have thought it a good idea for Bloms development.... I still had a twinge of disappointment in my guts... ugh this team has so many players that are so unlikable lol

Just give us something to enjoy watching!!!!!
I don't know how many are actually "unlikable", as opposed to they flat out suck. Other than Jarry, that is. I suppose Bunting but to be honest I hated this player until he came to Pittsburgh, and now I kinda like him.
 
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Speaking of Carolina, I have a very solid level of confidence that Carolina is the team that's going to trade for Karlsson. Just a couple of factors make me think that:

1. They were rumored to be interested in Karlsson when he was traded to Pittsburgh.
2. They have a need for him with Burns walking as a free agent after the year.
3. They have cap space for him with both Burns and Orlov walking as free agents after the year, where Nikishin is likely replacing Orlov on an ELC.
4. Karlsson makes significantly less money than his AAV after his July bonus is paid out, and Carolina's owner is pretty cheap that would like Karlsson costing less than his AAV.

I have a feeling the return won't include a 1st if Karlsson is going to Carolina, but I wonder if the Penguins could pull off Scott Morrow in the deal. The Canes would have Karlsson, Walker and Chatfield as their RD going forward after acquiring Karlsson, so I don't really see a spot for Morrow to be playing.

That said, this would likely require Rantanen to not re-sign with the Canes because I figure that Karlsson's AAV becomes problematic if they're also paying Rantanen $14 million a year.
 
So what is your argument then?

That Blomqvist isn't a young prospect.

He's entering the years where he's going to need to prove he can break into the NHL or he will likely be passed over in our development system. Likely by some no name Mike Sullivan decides he likes that is 32.

See Nieto over Puustinen, Imama over Poulin, etc, etc, etc.
 
Im not sure Dubas understands much after the last 2 years

He does. Dubas hasn't been great in terms of trades but I honestly do not think he cares about the big club at all anymore. He is just letting Sullivan have his way for better or worse. Which honestly Sullivan is doing a great job tanking this team.

WBS and Wheeling were stack this year and he has been dumping players and resources into them. He is literally just going from the ground up.

The next week will be interesting though.
 
Speaking of Carolina, I have a very solid level of confidence that Carolina is the team that's going to trade for Karlsson. Just a couple of factors make me think that:

1. They were rumored to be interested in Karlsson when he was traded to Pittsburgh.
2. They have a need for him with Burns walking as a free agent after the year.
3. They have cap space for him with both Burns and Orlov walking as free agents after the year, where Nikishin is likely replacing Orlov on an ELC.
4. Karlsson makes significantly less money than his AAV after his July bonus is paid out, and Carolina's owner is pretty cheap that would like Karlsson costing less than his AAV.

I have a feeling the return won't include a 1st if Karlsson is going to Carolina, but I wonder if the Penguins could pull off Scott Morrow in the deal. The Canes would have Karlsson, Walker and Chatfield as their RD going forward after acquiring Karlsson, so I don't really see a spot for Morrow to be playing.

If you are Carolina, would you take EK over Burns? Bc that's essentially what they'd be doing.
I'm not making a statement bc I haven't seen Burns much this season.
 
That Blomqvist isn't a young prospect.

He's entering the years where he's going to need to prove he can break into the NHL or he will likely be passed over in our development system. Likely by some no name Mike Sullivan decides he likes that is 32.

See Nieto over Puustinen, Imama over Poulin, etc, etc, etc.

He is right where he should be in terms of development. He is just stuck with the worst developmental coach there is. He needs a better coach and a legit chance with a run of games next year
 
Just my two cents.... if you couldn't get Morrow for Guentzel, you're not getting him for Karlsson

The Penguins could have gotten Morrow for Guentzel if they would have targeted fewer pieces, but they went with more lesser pieces rather than fewer better pieces.

I wouldn't expect more than like Morrow and a 2nd for Karlsson if Morrow is included.
 
I think two things are equally true:

The Penguins could have given Blomqvist more consistent starts while he was up in his second stint that just concluded.

However, the consistency of his playing time here in the NHL has not irreparably damaged his potential as an NHL goaltender.

In fact, his trajectory is in line with another goaltender with Penguins ties.

Filip Gustavsson played 27 NHL games through age 23, including 18 in his age 23 season. It wasn't until he was sent to Minnesota from Ottawa that he broke through and began contributing steadily at age 24 when he split the net with Fleury. At age 25, he had the slightly larger split with Fleury. At age 26, he's now Minnesota's No. 1 with Fleury as the back-up.
 
Just my two cents.... if you couldn't get Morrow for Guentzel, you're not getting him for Karlsson

probably true but also UFA vs a signed player. If carolina cant sign rantanen it will 2 years in a row they traded for a UFA that walked. They may need to start trading for signed players.
 
I don't know how many are actually "unlikable", as opposed to they flat out suck. Other than Jarry, that is. I suppose Bunting but to be honest I hated this player until he came to Pittsburgh, and now I kinda like him.

I don't mean personality wise unlikable, should have clarified that, I mean from an entertainment perspective, this team has players that offer nothing on the entertainment scale.

I would agree that Jarry is probably the most personally unlikable person, but I don't know him besides what media wants to portray. As a sports personality if media doesn't get what they want, they can skew public perception quite a lot.
 
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I'm not saying he is not a prospect. I'm saying that Blomqvist is at an age where you expect him to start battling for a role especially when Jarry and Ned have shit the bed they way they have.

The fact he came up and basically got iced for a month and a half is not really a good look for how this team internally views him. Which is basically how this team internally views every prospect.
I mean, that's not completely unfair but at the same time, you can absolutely overwork a rookie goalie and ruin the development, especially with the team we have in front of him.

They are easing him in to the league in a very appropriate and managed way. There's only been like 1-2 games that he didn't play where I felt he should have but so what?
 
I don't even see how this is true. 22 year old goalies aren't named the starters immediately upon making the NHL. The only starting goalies age 24 or younger in the NHL are Dostal and Wolf, and both of those guys are splitting time in about a 60/40 split with Gibson and Vladar respectively.
Why are we comparing our goaltending situation to anybody else's? Whose starting goaltender has been buried in the minor leagues this season? Whose NHL head coach prefers starting a journeyman over the prospect goaltender? If Huska had treated Wolf the same way we treated Blomqvist, would Wolf be a finalist for the Calder? Probably not.

I think what Gurglesons said is accurate...we should have been playing him far more during the time Jarry was down in the AHL. I also think it is not behind hope with Blomqvist mainly because he is a goaltender.

And sometimes, teams find starting netminders at age 28. They are generally voodoo. Stuff happens.
 
No rush to trade anyone by the deadline. If a deal presents itself, great. If not, there's still this summer when the rising cap will open up new pssibilities.

For now, the main roster can continue to lose and the kids can gain valuable experience with a playoff run in WBS.

That Pets/DOC deal should buy Dubas some leeway here. It was a great trade that got us more in terms of futures than anyone expected.
 
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No rush to trade anyone by the deadline. If a deal presents itself, great. If not, there's still this summer when the rising cap will open up new pssibilities.

Wrong Sullivan needs traded now before he gets a new deal this offseason while he is out at the bar with FSG. He is gonna get them all drunk and they will sign him for 5 more years at a raise.
 
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So...... Is it Jarry or Ned vs Colorado? Holy hell, what a return opponent if it's Jarry haha.... Oh wait, does he remember the system? Maybe he has to sit for 6 games and watch to get reaccustomed
 
Just my two cents.... if you couldn't get Morrow for Guentzel, you're not getting him for Karlsson
Jake's insistence on trying FA f***ed his value at the TDL.

EK's signed for two more years after this one, and at a palatable rate (assuming the Pens retain $3M or so), and he's not owed a ton of real cash ($4M next season, $1.5M in 2026-27) so for a team like Carolina that might be attractive.

I dunno where EK ends up, or how it plays out, but I don't think Jake's situation is comparable.
 
Why are we comparing our goaltending situation to anybody else's? Whose starting goaltender has been buried in the minor leagues this season? Whose NHL head coach prefers starting a journeyman over the prospect goaltender? If Huska had treated Wolf the same way we treated Blomqvist, would Wolf be a finalist for the Calder? Probably not.

I think what Gurglesons said is accurate...we should have been playing him far more during the time Jarry was down in the AHL. I also think it is not behind hope with Blomqvist mainly because he is a goaltender.

And sometimes, teams find starting netminders at age 28. They are generally voodoo. Stuff happens.

If Blomqvist would have performed like Wolf, Blomqvist would have stayed in the NHL and would be their undisputed starter at this point.

Blomqvist wasn't given more of a chance in the NHL because he generally stunk in the NHL.
 
In terms of Carolina and EK65...not that I care too much about this, but how do we think he'd fit into the system there?
 

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