Salary Cap: '24-'25 Salary Thread: Crosbicles Volume MMXXVI: Sid is Still Goat

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DOC at 2.5M x2 is a joke. He's barely NHL caliber.

The Lankinen deal is a premature dice roll. Possible it works out but what's the rush?

Petts at 5.5 x 6. Not sure how I feel about that. I suppose I trust his professionalism and focus. That one might be justified.
Gave up a lot to get him. He's gonna have to play like last year for most of that deal to make it worthwhile.

I agreed with them dumping Miller. That contract won't age well. Might look deceptively good in the short term though.
 
We are currently projecting to have the 16th most cap space in the league for 25/26. Literally smack dab in the middle. Columbus, SJ, and Winnipeg have almost double what we do. Other teams way ahead of us include Anaheim, Chicago, Carolina Toronto, Isles, Caps, etc. All more attractive cities and/or team situations than us.

You all are setting yourself up for unnecessary disappointment to think any needle moving UFA would have any reason to come here.
 
If there's one thing NHL GM's are good at it's the mindset of "sure that guys has had 4 chances and boned every one of them but it will absolutely be different here! 4.75 per and a 15 team NTC!"

I can't NOT give this completely chaotic asset upwards of 5 million a year with trade clauses for half a decade or longer... if not him who?!?
 
We are currently projecting to have the 16th most cap space in the league for 25/26. Literally smack dab in the middle. Columbus, SJ, and Winnipeg have almost double what we do. Other teams way ahead of us include Anaheim, Chicago, Carolina Toronto, Isles, Caps, etc. All more attractive cities and/or team situations than us.

You all are setting yourself up for unnecessary disappointment to think any needle moving UFA would have any reason to come here.

Agreed. I want them to sign a big name or two. But I don't expect it will happen.
 
We are currently projecting to have the 16th most cap space in the league for 25/26. Literally smack dab in the middle. Columbus, SJ, and Winnipeg have almost double what we do. Other teams way ahead of us include Anaheim, Chicago, Carolina Toronto, Isles, Caps, etc. All more attractive cities and/or team situations than us.

You all are setting yourself up for unnecessary disappointment to think any needle moving UFA would have any reason to come here.

Plus why pay ONE superstar player who will have an impact on the roster like 12 million when you can overpay three thoroughly mediocre players 4 million each to get played too many minutes outside of their role and not make one single iota of difference in the team's fortunes?

"Depth!"
 
DOC at 2.5M x2 is a joke. He's barely NHL caliber.

The Lankinen deal is a premature dice roll. Possible it works out but what's the rush?

Petts at 5.5 x 6. Not sure how I feel about that. I suppose I trust his professionalism and focus. That one might be justified.
Gave up a lot to get him. He's gonna have to play like last year for most of that deal to make it worthwhile.

I agreed with them dumping Miller. That contract won't age well. Might look deceptively good in the short term though.
If DOC is worth 2.5M for 2 years I have to think the trade market for Rakell is at a 1st + a prospect.

Stack Malkin-Crosby-Rust if that's what it takes to keep the big guys happy for the rest of the year, but they need to capture value from the likes of Rakell in this market.
 
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With the cap going up. GM's and Agents are going to use that space to pay mediocre talent more. That isn't the issue and it never was in a cap world because there is a floor and you have to get there somehow.

The issue is attaching trade protection to every 4th line/backup goalie in a cap world.
 
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With the cap going up. GM's and Agents are going to use that space to pay mediocre talent more. That isn't the issue and it never was in a cap world because there is a floor and you have to get there somehow.

The issue is attaching trade protection to every 4th line/backup goalie in a cap world.
I do not like where the GM's heads are going to be at with this new windfall of money to spend. I would rather had a more modest raise with other changes to the escrow if the goal was to get players more money.

I made a longer list of "things I'd like to see in the new CBA" in a mainboards thread. One was reducing max contract lengths down to five years and limiting trade protection clauses somehow. Couple thoughts were based on age or cap hit amount. Like, can only get a NTC after 28yo or above $8mil in cap hit (something based on % of the cap maybe). I'd also reduce the draft to four rounds and add a "compliance" buy out option.

All things designed to give teams more flexibility to facilitate player movement and maintain financial health (or rather, help keep them out of cap hell).
 
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We are currently projecting to have the 16th most cap space in the league for 25/26. Literally smack dab in the middle. Columbus, SJ, and Winnipeg have almost double what we do. Other teams way ahead of us include Anaheim, Chicago, Carolina Toronto, Isles, Caps, etc. All more attractive cities and/or team situations than us.

You all are setting yourself up for unnecessary disappointment to think any needle moving UFA would have any reason to come here.

A lot of those teams you listed have internal caps or are rebuilding.

Would not shock me for you to be right. But if Dubas throws Marner 14 mil x 6 or something would not shock me to see him take it to play with Sid in a market that is extremely quiet. Doubt Marner gets to UFA though.
 
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I do not like where the GM's heads are going to be at with this new windfall of money to spend. I would rather had a more modest raise with other changes to the escrow if the goal was to get players more money.

I made a longer list of "things I'd like to see in the new CBA" in a mainboards thread. One was reducing max contract lengths down to five years and limiting trade protection clauses somehow. Couple thoughts were based on age or cap hit amount. Like, can only get a NTC after 28yo or above $8mil in cap hit (something based on % of the cap maybe). I'd also reduce the draft to four rounds and add a "compliance" buy out option.

All things designed to give teams more flexibility to facilitate player movement and maintain financial health (or rather, help keep them out of cap hell).
Good luck getting the nhlpa to go along with a bunch of things that reduce the negotiating power of players for nothing in return.
 
A lot of those teams you listed have internal caps or are rebuilding.

Would not shock me for you to be right. But if Dubas throws Marner 14 mil x 6 or something would not shock me to see him take it to play with Sid in a market that is extremely quiet. Doubt Marner gets to UFA though.
Good players didn’t come here to play with Sid in his prime on a contending team. They’re not coming to play with him in his last days on a crap team.

This reminds me of when I was 16 and not understanding why nobody on the Pens official boards agreed with me that we might sign Bure, Fedorov, or Pronger in 2002.
 
Cap going into next year certainly allows for players to be paid more. That also raises the value of players on existing contracts like Rust, Karlsson, and Rakell. For me Karlsson raised his play and showed he can be a great add especially if the Pens retain say 2,5 million per. Maybe that is a bit much bit Pens can get a sweet deal back for a RD with 2 years term at a salary of 9.5 million for 2 years. Rust will fetch a 1st and Rakell a 1st plus a really good prospect. I keep Rakell for Sid and move the other two for pucks and prospects. Free up another 12.5 million and now see what the market offers.
 


This lineup looks worse than WBS’ lineup tonight lol…

Wonder if Sid will play tomorrow…Sullivan calling him a GTD and saying he feels good lol…sure, he feels good for a center with one arm who can’t shoot or take face offs
 
Good luck getting the nhlpa to go along with a bunch of things that reduce the negotiating power of players for nothing in return.
Well from that post alone, I didn't elaborate on everything that helps balance things out but also, I think you're missing some things if you don't think anything I said boosts player power.

For example, reducing the draft to 4 rounds might seem bad for players but as we've seen, plenty of guys that may be 5-7th round picks at 18, suddenly turn into 2-4th round picks at 19 or even 20. They they go undrafted, they now have the freedom to sign with whomever they'd like. They aren't beholden to a single organization that may or may not specific development plans for them for the majority of their prime years.
Also, with the cap going up, the league is still likely going to require a certain escrow % to start the year. By keep salaries a tad lower because the cap is a tad lower, you could lower (or eliminate) the escrow. That would put more money in pockets. More so, if there was no escrow, you could focus on salary vs bonus structure more which would be significantly easier if you only have a max of five years to work with.

I also suggested as a compromise, reducing UFA from 27 to 26 and making the ELCs a two-year contract provided the player actually plays in the NHL the first year. That would help get players to better negotiated contracts quicker.

The compliance buyout option is more about fairness to me more than anything. While I want guys to get their purse, I also feel there is a contractual requirement to actually provide the services you are being paid for. Example, Jarry making $5.75mil for anther 3 years while playing in the AHL isn't exactly what was negotiated. Jarry isn't living up to his end of the bargain so why should the team be forced to? I think in my notes/idea list, I said something like "if the player clears waivers and spends a full season in the minors, and clears waives one more time, they are eligible for the compliance buy out. So if Jarry stays in WBS next year and no one will trade for him or pick him up on waivers, we get a compliance buyout option that summer. That could easily benefit the player. Like no one wants Saad at $4mil because he's not a $4mil player but if you buy him out (or terminate) plenty of teams want him at $1mil. So it's an opportunity for the player to recalibrate their league value in order to play.

Again, plenty of fairness in my proposals if you look a tad deeper.
 
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DOC at 2.5M x2 is a joke. He's barely NHL caliber.

The Lankinen deal is a premature dice roll. Possible it works out but what's the rush?

Petts at 5.5 x 6. Not sure how I feel about that. I suppose I trust his professionalism and focus. That one might be justified.
Gave up a lot to get him. He's gonna have to play like last year for most of that deal to make it worthwhile.

I agreed with them dumping Miller. That contract won't age well. Might look deceptively good in the short term though.
Mate, you're not you when you're hungry and haven't watched a big booty twerk video on YouTube.

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This lineup looks worse than WBS’ lineup tonight lol…

Wonder if Sid will play tomorrow…Sullivan calling him a GTD and saying he feels good lol…sure, he feels good for a center with one arm who can’t shoot or take face offs

According to Yohe he’s fine to go forward.
 
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I like that they're using Bemstrom in a top-6 role, he was lighting it up in WBS in that role and should be tried in the NHL there. I figure that Glass pushes Hayes out of a spot and L2 just becomes Bunting-Malkin-Bemstrom.
 
Good players didn’t come here to play with Sid in his prime on a contending team. They’re not coming to play with him in his last days on a crap team.

This reminds me of when I was 16 and not understanding why nobody on the Pens official boards agreed with me that we might sign Bure, Fedorov, or Pronger in 2002.

Once again. If we are offering the most they may come here.

Depends on what the player wants.
 

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