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Here is Rosen's scouting report from Wheeler's 2024 write-up of the Sabres prospect pool.

Rosen’s a slippery goal-scoring winger who just looks talented in possession. On the attack, he’s a crafty handler who sneaks through traffic to navigate in and out of space in control, drawing attention as he goes. A lot of the tools he hones are also the ones required of smallish players (he’s now listed at 6 feet and 173 pounds which is up an inch and five pounds for last year) in today’s game.

He’s inventive. He’s a light, fluid skater who changes directions in an instant and beats defenders off of cuts. And his ability as a marksman really can’t be overstated (though he’s still figuring out how to get to the inside more consistently in the AHL to go from productive to closer to point per game). His shot is pinpoint accurate (both his one-timer and his wrister) and he makes a ton of quick adjustments before he releases the puck to catch goalies and defenders off guard. Though his mentality is to look to attack the slot to score, he’s also got great touch with the puck when play breaks down and he has to improvise or make a play to a linemate.

He’s going to have to learn to play a little differently to build toward a scoring role at the next level but with patience and proper development, he’s going to inject skill into an NHL top nine and threaten on the power play in the long term. He’s got the threatening transition game, nifty release, perimeter speed and control, and shot shaping to become a 20-plus-goal scorer. He can run a little hot and cold (he was hot to start this season but has cooled of late in Rochester), but consistency will come with reps and maturity and you have to remind yourself of his age when considering he has already played two years in the AHL.
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Rosen was just on the outside of Wheeler's top-100 list in the off-season. This write-up makes me feel he has 20 goal, 50 point 2nd liner upside, but just with a bit less risk than Koivunen. So he'd rank just above Koivunen but that's mostly based on him not having skating issues, the two seem to have similar upsides.

HandshakeLine said:
Also man, Rosen is probably the kind of player we'll pick this year, given that I don't think we fall low enough to pick in the top 5.
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Rosen seems like a fairly standard mid/late 1st type of prospect to draft. He was likely overdrafted a bit at #14 but seems like a fairly standard 1st round caliber prospect.
 
If we’re trying to get younger players from Buffalo, it should be Peterka or Benson or one of their young defenders…someone with actual skill lol…Rosen won’t amount to anything…none of this lower value prospects…go bold…Peterka for Rakell and Bunting, or ask Rust to waive his NMC or you’ll trade his ass to Winnipeg in the summer lol
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
Here is Rosen's scouting report from Wheeler's 2024 write-up of the Sabres prospect pool.



Rosen was just on the outside of Wheeler's top-100 list in the off-season. This write-up makes me feel he has 20 goal, 50 point 2nd liner upside, but just with a bit less risk than Koivunen. So he'd rank just above Koivunen but that's mostly based on him not having skating issues, the two seem to have similar upsides.
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Yeah, but does he PK? That's what matters.
 
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No GDT yet so I’ll put this here…this better be a win tonight or the chase for a WC spot is over lol…


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Andy99 said:
If we’re trying to get younger players from Buffalo, it should be Peterka or Benson or one of their young defenders…someone with actual skill lol…Rosen won’t amount to anything…none of this lower value prospects…go bold…Peterka for Rakell and Bunting, or ask Rust to waive his NMC or you’ll trade his ass to Winnipeg in the summer lol
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You need someone with skill to get those kind of prospects.
 
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Andy99 said:
If we’re trying to get younger players from Buffalo, it should be Peterka or Benson or one of their young defenders…someone with actual skill lol…Rosen won’t amount to anything…none of this lower value prospects…go bold…Peterka for Rakell and Bunting, or ask Rust to waive his NMC or you’ll trade his ass to Winnipeg in the summer lol
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Literally why would Buffalo do that

BlindWillyMcHurt said:
lol the Penguins are 29th in PP goals?!?

I thought that unit was "good" this year?
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They're 8th in PP% so yes the PP is good this year.
 
Empoleon8771 said:
Literally why would Buffalo do that
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Because they’re going nowhere except in a race to the bottom with their current team…they have a lot of good young forwards who haven’t taken the next step and Rakell would be their best winger despite that…also it’s hard for them to lure FAs there and he’s signed for 3 more years…if Petts signed there and they could trade for him and Rakell, that would help their team more than having both Peterka and Benson on their roster
 
Here's an idea based on that Sabres talk: Pettersson with an extension to Buffalo for Samuelsson and Rosen. Samuelsson has seemingly fallen out of favor with Buffalo after they gave him a pretty large extension early, but he's still a very big defensive LHD that should complement either Letang or Karlsson well. He's only 24 so he also fits the young target idea that Dubas would want. His issue with Buffalo is that he seemingly hasn't lived up to his 2022-2023 performance that got him the big extension, and he seems to be falling further down the depth chart.

If Buffalo is down on him, I think it would make a lot of sense to bring him in as a part of the Pettersson deal. You'll need some sort of LHD to eat minutes and they really only have Pickering in the near term as LHD worth anything.
 
Assuming Pittsburgh misses out on the playoffs this year, then what direction for the team is most popular among the fans? To retool and run it back next year, or to blow it up and commit to a rebuild this summer? I'm curious from an outside perspective.

I know trading Crosby is probably a sacrilegious idea to most Penguins fans, but keeping him for the 2 years remaining on his contract could potentially keep the Pens out of reach of McKenna next year and DuPont the year after. If they moved Crosby for two 1sts+, Malkin for a 1st+ and some other vets then you'd be guaranteed to be in the mix for both of those guys in the upcoming drafts and you'd add a wealth of futures in addition to a shot at those top guys.
 
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Assuming Pittsburgh misses out on the playoffs this year, then what direction for the team is most popular among the fans? To retool and run it back next year, or to blow it up and commit to a rebuild this summer? I'm curious from an outside perspective.

I know trading Crosby is probably a sacrilegious idea to most Penguins fans, but keeping him for the 2 years remaining on his contract could potentially keep the Pens out of reach of McKenna next year and DuPont the year after. If they moved Crosby for two 1sts+, Malkin for a 1st+ and some other vets then you'd be guaranteed to be in the mix for both of those guys in the upcoming drafts and you'd add a wealth of futures in addition to a shot at those top guys.
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Most want to blow it up, but as you have mentioned, that's a little hard while Crosby is around.

They will tip toe through this year and sell off the obvious parts.
 
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Ugene Magic said:
Most want to blow it up, but as you have mentioned, that's a little hard while Crosby is around.

They will tip toe through this year and sell off the obvious parts.
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Maybe if they shed enough pieces then Crosby would want out for one more run at the cup while keeping a future coaching/front office jobs on the table with the Pens. I know it's not black and white but if they hold onto Crosby/Malkin/Letang/Karlsson/etc... I'd be worried about them being stuck in no man's land, outside of the playoffs and outside the bottom 5 for the next few years.

But if Management was to bite the bullet and fully commit, then in 2 years time you guys could be walking away with one of McKenna/DuPont + a top 5 pick + an abundance of 1sts you gathered from the sell off. I could see your prospect pool being among the top of the league as soon as the summer of 2027 with a bit of luck. But if most of the vets stick around and you pick in the 5-15 range for the next 3 drafts it leaves you in a bit of an awkward spot.

I don't see any big moves happening while they're in the hunt this season though obviously.
 
At this point most fans want to blow it up outside of Crosby/Malkin/Letang. Trading any of those 3 guys simply will not happen, with Malkin and Letang having likely not much value and Crosby being off-limits in a trade.
 
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