Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XX

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Multi-faceted gamble. You are betting McAvoy and Lindholm don't miss major time again, that Swayman isn't actually a sieve, that anything you draft will make the roster and impact it, and most importantly, that nothing happens to David Pastrnak.

Also, that 6th season is poison for offer sheets.

This contract scares the piss out of me. But it’s really hard to let goals walk out of the building right now.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

If you offer sheet a guy shooting 19%, you will end up with everything you deserve.

What's Geekie shooting at?

 

[BlackFrancis]

This contract scares the piss out of me. But it’s really hard to let goals walk out of the building right now.

Is it a given adding Knies and re-signing Geekie results in a significant net plus on goals? Chances are they both either regress to their respective means or even crater.

What Geekie shooting at?

You anticipated the thrust of my future masterful argument.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Is it a given adding Knies and re-signing Geekie results in a significant net plus on goals? Chances are they both either regress to their respective means or even crater.

You anticipated the thrust of my future masterful argument.

Knies is a pipe dream. He’s not going anywhere.

 

[Absurdity]

You think they move Zacha or did you just forget him? He’s a good trade chip for sure if you find an upgrade, but wish it was Mittelstadt instead for money purposes and the Czech connection staying alive

I posted a few days ago that I think the Bruins should keep three of Lindholm, Geekie, Zacha, and Mittelstadt. I don't think Lindholm has much value at his cap hit for a team to want him. Mittelstadt may have a little more value just because of his age, and a team may be willing to take a flyer on him, however, I would expect him to be the #2C next season. Between Zacha and Geekie, if the Bruins cannot come to a deal with Geekie, I could see the Bruins trading him. If the Bruins and Geekie come to an agreement on a new contract, I think that would allow the Bruins to package Zacha for a 1st liner.

 

[BlackFrancis]

Knies is a pipe dream. He’s not going anywhere.

We were talking about two different contracts. And I wasn't even day drinking.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

We were talking about two different contracts. And I wasn't even day drinking.

I was so it’s probably my fault. Knies would take $7M+ to pry out of Toronto.

 

[Fenian24]

I would for sure offer sheet Knies if Toronto ends up retaining Marner as its going to put them in a bit of a bind if they do.

But Im offering in the high $2,290,458 - $4,580,917 range so we dont have to give up this years 1st. And at that point, Toronto will probably do what they can to match that number. (reference: https://puckpedia.com/offer-sheet-tracker)

They have Tavares and Marner to sign. I think the Bruins could sign him without going into the next tier and losing a first.

Maverik Bourque is an RFA and I would gamble a high 4M contract on him as well. Looks like Dylan Holloway just about ready to break out. Matt Corronato from Calgary would be another RFA to look at.

I think with the number of picks they have coming up using some of those picks on RFAs with offer sheets would be a ballsy and great way to go.

 

[pucksindeep92]

I posted a few days ago that I think the Bruins should keep three of Lindholm, Geekie, Zacha, and Mittelstadt. I don't think Lindholm has much value at his cap hit for a team to want him. Mittelstadt may have a little more value just because of his age, and a team may be willing to take a flyer on him, however, I would expect him to be the #2C next season. Between Zacha and Geekie, if the Bruins cannot come to a deal with Geekie, I could see the Bruins trading him. If the Bruins and Geekie come to an agreement on a new contract, I think that would allow the Bruins to package Zacha for a 1st liner.

Gotcha, don’t think I saw that post. Yea he’s easier to move than most players as well (save for Mitts) that have a cap influence. Zacha and a 2026 first alone should provide a solid return. Not sure about Mitts with full trust at 2c though given our (lack of) talent in the middle at the moment.

Something to consider too in that scenario, assuming you are moving Zacha for a forward upgrade (who likely costs a fair bit more), they better not just be a little better production wise than Boeser or Ehlers who you can get for free. I’m not crazy on either of those guys, but there’s something to be said about moving Zacha who is tight with his countryman in Pasta, and can play wing and center with no issue in the top 6 on a very reasonable contract. That player you get in return needs to clear Zachas production by a mile or have a really bright future ahead of them. I’d rather have the total of Zacha at 4.75mil, the 2026 1st, and Boeser /Ehlers as a FA signing, than many wings out there teams would move on from for just Zacha and a 1st. You’d have to add another solid piece(s) to Zacha and the 2026 1st to get a first line center if that’s the other line of thought and not upgrading wing. This isn’t a vacuum though so Zacha $ going out could help you sign a big fish like Marner for instance.

 

[Fenian24]

Is it a given adding Knies and re-signing Geekie results in a significant net plus on goals? Chances are they both either regress to their respective means or even crater.

This is a good argument for Geekie but Knies is much younger and has improved each season. Fast, gritty, great shot. If you add a center with that top 5 pick from this year you staple Knies to him and let them go.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Gotcha, don’t think I saw that post. Yea he’s easier to move than most players as well (save for Mitts) that have a cap influence. Zacha and a 2026 first alone should provide a solid return. Not sure about Mitts with full trust at 2c though given our (lack of) talent in the middle at the moment.

Something to consider too in that scenario, assuming you are moving Zacha for a forward upgrade (who likely costs a fair bit more), they better not just be a little better production wise than Boeser or Ehlers who you can get for free. I’m not crazy on either of those guys, but there’s something to be said about moving Zacha who is tight with his countryman in Pasta, and can play wing and center with no issue in the top 6 on a very reasonable contract. That player you get in return needs to clear Zachas production by a mile or have a really bright future ahead of them. I’d rather have the total of Zacha at 4.75mil, the 2026 1st, and Boeser /Ehlers as a FA signing, than many wings out there teams would move on from for just Zacha and a 1st. You’d have to add another solid piece(s) to Zacha and the 2026 1st to get a first line center if that’s the other line of thought and not upgrading wing. This isn’t a vacuum though so Zacha $ going out could help you sign a big fish like Marner for instance.

I’d pay a third just to get rid of Mittlestadt. Worth taking him back to get the second and Sellers. But he’s been awful everywhere except when the puck is on his stick. If he’s in the top six next year it’s going to be a miserable year.

 

[Guelph Bruin]

I was so it’s probably my fault. Knies would take $7M+ to pry out of Toronto.

I'd offer him $7-$7.5M offer sheet easily and force Toronto's hand. He's a good player and something we need, if toronto matches it screws them for Marner/Tavares. I doubt Sweeney uses an offer sheet though, seems too nice.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I posted a few days ago that I think the Bruins should keep three of Lindholm, Geekie, Zacha, and Mittelstadt. I don't think Lindholm has much value at his cap hit for a team to want him. Mittelstadt may have a little more value just because of his age, and a team may be willing to take a flyer on him, however, I would expect him to be the #2C next season. Between Zacha and Geekie, if the Bruins cannot come to a deal with Geekie, I could see the Bruins trading him. If the Bruins and Geekie come to an agreement on a new contract, I think that would allow the Bruins to package Zacha for a 1st liner.

Show me the package of Zacha for a first liner, and I'm on board. I like Zacha, he has an outstanding contract which does make him more valuable . If there were a cap addled team willing to deal a worth it 7-8 million player for a < 5 million dollar player, I'd listen

 

[pucksindeep92]

I’d pay a third just to get rid of Mittlestadt. Worth taking him back to get the second and Sellers. But he’s been awful everywhere except when the puck is on his stick. If he’s in the top six next year it’s going to be a miserable year.

Wasn’t what I had in mind when trying to move money out with Coyle, and is having a rough start, but find me a guy who’s coming into a tanking team without leadership, a coach/system in place, and actually does well? Rantanen had everything and couldn’t do it. He’s going to be just fine (hopefully). With some luck, he could be a Geekie/Zacha success story. If they make a big splash with Marner, he could end up opposite as your second line wing in a worst case scenario if someone else plays in the middle.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Wasn’t what I had in mind when trying to move money out with Coyle, and is having a rough start, but find me a guy who’s coming into a tanking team without leadership, a coach/system in place, and actually does well? Rantanen had everything and couldn’t do it. He’s going to be just fine (hopefully). With some luck, he could be a Geekie/Zacha success story. If they make a big splash with Marner, he could end up opposite as your second line wing in a worst case scenario if someone else plays in the middle.

I agree that Mittelstadt playing second line wing would be a worst case scenario, yes.

 

[Kegs]

Am I reading you right, you are in the keep Sacco camp.

I don’t know if he was given a fair chance. Was this roster even good enough? To start the season I was team “this team is great” but clearly I’m not very smart.

Not that fair matters when you’re a coach in the nhl. Don’t win. Fired.

 

[Kegs]

I was so it’s probably my fault. Knies would take $7M+ to pry out of Toronto.

Knies is worth 7m imo.

 

[Absurdity]

Show me the package of Zacha for a first liner, and I'm on board. I like Zacha, he has an outstanding contract which does make him more valuable . If there were a cap addled team willing to deal a worth it 7-8 million player for a < 5 million dollar player, I'd listen

With a poor center group available in free agency this year, I think Zacha will have a ton of value on the trade market. While multiple teams will have plenty of cap space going into the offseason, some teams will have to make some tough decisions on who they will re-sign which will open some trade opportunities.

For me, Zacha is what he is at this point. He's on pace for a quiet 47pts this season which isn't horrible, but I think more should be expected. I don't think he has that next gear like Geekie has shown he has this season, but it all comes down to if the Bruins and Geekie can agree to a contract or not.

 

[Kegs]

With a poor center group available in free agency this year, I think Zacha will have a ton of value on the trade market. While multiple teams will have plenty of cap space going into the offseason, some teams will have to make some tough decisions on who they will re-sign which will open some trade opportunities.

For me, Zacha is what he is at this point. He's on pace for a quiet 47pts this season which isn't horrible, but I think more should be expected. I don't think he has that next gear like Geekie has shown he has this season, but it all comes down to if the Bruins and Geekie can agree to a contract or not.

He also has one of the better cap hits in the nhl. I wouldn’t move him unless they go full tear down and rebuild.

 

[pucksindeep92]

They have Tavares and Marner to sign. I think the Bruins could sign him without going into the next tier and losing a first.

Maverik Bourque is an RFA and I would gamble a high 4M contract on him as well. Looks like Dylan Holloway just about ready to break out. Matt Corronato from Calgary would be another RFA to look at.

I think with the number of picks they have coming up using some of those picks on RFAs with offer sheets would be a ballsy and great way to go.

Dallas is in serious trouble with 5.3m to play with this summer, and is going to struggle to resign Bourque at any number as it stands currently. He’s a bit small for this fanbase though and would become a new whipping boy immediately, but I like him for bottom 6 for 1.5-2.3m.At 4 though? Hard pass, would rather try other names for that cost. The only way they resign him is if they start moving Marchment and Dumba, and get choosy with other signings.

Corronato would be awesome. Like Dallas, Calgary has plenty of players that are UFA/RFA this summer, but have quite a bit of cap space (36.2m!) They might be less precious about Zary who isn’t getting as much ice time this year, if they had to choose between the two. Zary could be really nice on the 3rd line next year with upside.

 

[GHFC79]

I agree.

But $7 mil (and how many years?) may not even be enough.

If it wasn't for that nasty Cap thing, I'd love to have him.

CAP SPACE: 27.15M

Geekie - 5.5M
Lauko, Beecher, Khusnutdinov, Koepke 5M
M Granlund 4.5M


Lohrei 3.5M
Wotherspoon 1.5M
Pionk 7M

Geekie - E. Lindholm - Pasta
Mittelstadt - Zacha - Granlund
Khusnutdinov - Minten - Poitras
Lauko - Beecher - Kastelic

Koepke
Lysell


H Lindholm - MacAvoy
Zadorov - Pionk
Lohrei - Peeke

Wotherspoon

 

[pucksindeep92]

CAP SPACE: 27.15M

Geekie - 5.5M
Lauko, Beecher, Khusnutdinov, Koepke 5M
M Granlund 4.5M


Lohrei 3.5M
Wotherspoon 1.5M
Pionk 7M

Geekie - E. Lindholm - Pasta
Mittelstadt - Zacha - Granlund
Khusnutdinov - Minten - Poitras
Lauko - Beecher - Kastelic

Koepke
Lysell


H Lindholm - MacAvoy
Zadorov - Pionk
Lohrei - Peeke

Wotherspoon

 

[pucksindeep92]

With a poor center group available in free agency this year, I think Zacha will have a ton of value on the trade market. While multiple teams will have plenty of cap space going into the offseason, some teams will have to make some tough decisions on who they will re-sign which will open some trade opportunities.

For me, Zacha is what he is at this point. He's on pace for a quiet 47pts this season which isn't horrible, but I think more should be expected. I don't think he has that next gear like Geekie has shown he has this season, but it all comes down to if the Bruins and Geekie can agree to a contract or not.

He’s a little below production from the previous two seasons. The issue is finding someone that is cash strapped and has that more costly, but clearly more productive winger at 6.5+ that we would also want. Or someone who has contract nearing its end and will need a significant raise. Colorado could use a center for sure, but outside of flipping Necas, doesn’t have much to offer. Washington theoretically could look to move McMichael next year before he goes RFA for bigger money, but unlikely. Those are the scenarios we need to look for.

Either way, Zacha is a 50-60 point, 6’4 Swiss Army knife for 4.75, and is worth a bit more to us than most 65+ point wingers at 7+. He’s easy to move, but the margin of upgrade, via cost or cap space, needs to be substantial.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Lauko Beecher Koepke hopefully will be playing somewhere else next season.

 

[Hookslide]

He also has one of the better cap hits in the nhl. I wouldn’t move him unless they go full tear down and rebuild.

You have it right great contract, and to be honest, I am not in favor of moving him, unless it is a blow away deal. I have always liked his game and always thought highly of him, but I must admit, I am a little frustrated with him because I watch this guy's skill level and just believe there is more there. his biggest problem in opinion is his shot accuracy.