Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XX

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Does anybody else feel like Beecher was actually on a good path before this year? Bueller? What I saw was someone that had speed and faceoff ability, with defensive responsibility, and modest offensive potential to become a decent 3c for a bit. By June 2024, I thought that by this time this year, we would be looking at someone ready to push Coyle out of his spot. I understand that isn’t the case this year, and he has become the antithesis of much of that. I’m just curious if I was the only one that sees a much different product this season versus the last? Money is tight, and we’ve gained some intriguing prospects in the bottom 6 as of late, but I think they should keep him on a low cost deal going into next year if they can, even as a 13th forward that could be waived by November if he allows himself to be pushed out. Tight leash, but he has more to provide than what we are seeing right now, which I believe is a reaction to the product of the team as a whole.
No.

I saw a guy who was a 3rd liner in a junior league in his draft year. Ok, it was the USNTDP but most years, 3rd liners in their draft year on that team don't become top 6 players.

Guys who are 3rd liners in junior and the NCAA rarely become 3rd liners in the NHL. They become 4th liners, fringe NHLers or career AHLers.
 
I just want to stay away from McQueen, Bruins can't afford a miss here. Replace him with Martone.
If we are at 7 or 8 and the top guys are gone, O’Brien feels like the right pick for me. My understanding is that he’s further away but has more upside. McQueen is tempting but I can’t get past the injury concerns.
 
If we are at 7 or 8 and the top guys are gone, O’Brien feels like the right pick for me. My understanding is that he’s further away but has more upside. McQueen is tempting but I can’t get past the injury concerns.

At this rate, we may finish 5th and have a shot at Hagens, Frondell, Eklund, Desnoyers.

I'm hoping for a bottom-5 finish and for the lottery to bump us up a few. Would love Misa or Schaefer.

I still have significant concerns with Sweeney's ability to build through the draft though.
 
Its always about the money.

Agreed, and they do have selling points. They have one of the best players on the planet in Pastrnak. They have a decent collection of veterans in place. And if they don't make major changes they can sell a long history of success (if they make changes, they can sell a fresh system, so it goes both ways)

I know this board is absolutely miserable, and rightly so. but it is also very easy to see this team as a top 4/5 seed in the conference again next year, especially if they can add the right player. it may not happen, but they will be selling it, and it is very believable with the veteran core they have. As we saw at the deadline, there was a lot of respect around the league for some of the "trash" (if you believe this board) the Bruins were selling. And I can guarantee you there is more respect for some remain outside of Boston than here.
 
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Maybe if the league was going to switch to a 4v4 format I'd come around on the pouting little choker
Mitch Marner playoffs ppg: .88
Brad Marchand playoffs ppg: .88

I’d love a choker who produces at the same rate as Marchand in the postseason. This team seriously lacks offense, they could use someone with as much skill as Mariner.
 
I like Beecher more than most on the board, and the fact that he plays every night indicates to me that they do as well . I will be shocked if he is not resigned to a 2-3 year deal in the 1-1.5 mil a year range , maybe 3/ 3.75. Possibly they trade him, but he'll be in the NHL next year
I was right with you with this kid, but I think it is time to move on from him, and it might be good for the player hear some different ideas on the game. I also would say is just another example of a wasted draft pick, or another player that was not developed properly.
 
Mitch Marner playoffs ppg: .88
Brad Marchand playoffs ppg: .88

I’d love a choker who produces at the same rate as Marchand in the postseason. This team seriously lacks offense, they could use someone with as much skill as Mariner.
I knew someone would bring this kind of trolling contrarian nonsense. Yeah Marchand and Marner are the same . . .woof

Now I'm sure someone will write how they'd rather have a 27 year old than an old blah blah blah
 
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Mitch Marner playoffs ppg: .88
Brad Marchand playoffs ppg: .88

I’d love a choker who produces at the same rate as Marchand in the postseason. This team seriously lacks offense, they could use someone with as much skill as Mariner.

I don’t get the Marner hate here. Over the last three years he’s 8th in the league in points and 7th in P/PG.

Not enough sample size? In the last half decade he’s 5th in points. With one more point in those 5 years than the 6th placed player, David Pastrnak.

He’s a premier, elite, playmaking winger who is above average defensively and plays both PP and PK.

He’ll command anywhere from 11-13% of the cap like his peers so yes, he’ll get more than Pastrnak. Thats just a function of the cap increase and how contract negotiations work.
 
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I knew someone would bring this kind of trolling contrarian nonsense. Yeah Marchand and Marner are the same . . .woof
I think it has more to do with your low opinion of Marner, the kid would instantly be our 1A best player.

But I agree who cares what his stats look like compared to Brads. Totally irrelevant
 
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I think the Bruins need three top 9 guys, ideally closer to top 6 guys. Maybe they get lucky in the draft with the lottery and get one right away. They at least seem to be helping their own cause down the stretch so far.

Going all in on Marner limits their other options, I’d rather stay away from bringing Brad back. If you’re moving towards this being Pasta’s team it’s tough to bring back the former captain.

I think they could sell Ehlers or Boeser as being part of the new core, plus money. They should be able to get another guy too, maybe a Palmieri or Roslovic. Then they could explore some trade options, Dallas and Toronto will probably need to move some salary, Nic Robertson should be available and is likely good for 15 goals. I also wonder if you could get Mason Marchment, he’s down the depth chart with the Rantanen signing and will be needing a new contract at the end of next season. Maybe we could take on Matthew Dumba’s contract as we have space and he had a mediocre season for them. Might help them keep Duchene or Granlund.
 
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Or offensive ability.

I hope they let him walk, but I understand if they give him another year given the bigger picture of this shitty season. He should get his qualifier, take it or leave it, and prove he is the best person to be on the 4th line next season. If not, enjoy Providence and greener pastures the following season.
 
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Leading the leafs is a pretty funny defense against a guy being a playoff choker.
So your saying all the leafs struggles in the playoffs lies on the guy who's actually leading them in playoff points during his tenure there and that makes him a choker. Hmmm interesting take.

And when given a chance on the world stage at the 4 nations. He pots the game winning goal against Sweden in ot in the opener and sets up the tie-ing and winning goal in the final against the USA.
 
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Would you rather sign Marner (who's the best player available) or would you rather sign Ehlers and Boeser? Both could potentially be signed for $15-16M combined.

Or do you not really make much of a splash in the offseason and put this product back on the ice for 2025-26?
 
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Or do you not really make much of a splash in the offseason and put this product back on the ice for 2025-26?

I don't see that happening at all. It may end up that way if they aren't able to get the splash player or two they need, but I can't believe the FO is planning to stay status quo here.
 
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I don’t get the Marner hate here. Over the last three years he’s 8th in the league in points and 7th in P/PG.

Not enough sample size? In the last half decade he’s 5th in points. With one more point in those 5 years than the 6th placed player, David Pastrnak.

He’s a premier, elite, playmaking winger who is above average defensively and plays both PP and PK.

He’ll command anywhere from 11-13% of the cap like his peers so yes, he’ll get more than Pastrnak. Thats just a function of the cap increase and how contract negotiations work.
It’s because he’s not a cheap shot, rabbit punching, overhyped tough guy like Bennett. There is more love for a guy that has yet to reach 50 points in a season and has a worse pp/g in the playoffs (.67 vs .88) because he plays a certain style, than Marner that is essentially on the same level as Pasta production wise. And the funny thing is, nobody seems to understand that you ideally have both types of guys on your team, and that’s what pushes you over the edge, not just having one or another, but apparently that’s too complicated. These are the same people that can’t comprehend why you would pay someone more because they are signing a contract 2 years later than Pasta did, despite similar production. Marner deserves every cent of his next contract, even if it’s the highest in the league for the next 12 months.

I don’t like either guy, but they would be great Bruins if the money worked. That said, Marner improves your team a hell of a lot more for a longer period of time than Sam Bennett does if you can only have one. Bennet is the grit guy you try to find at the deadline to shore up for a long postseason run, Marner is the franchise guy that gets you to the post season each year and you look to continue scoring into the summer (which he does).
 

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