Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XX

you can piece the history together from the many interviews and insider takes.

1. Teams are reaching out to Sweeney about it, but they are still trying to bridge the gap.
2. The meeting happens just before the deadline but the Bruins and Marchand's camp cant find middle on the AAV.
3. Sweeney says, Brad, if you're ok with it we want to you have a chance to win a cup and if you will come off your AAV we'll talk on 7/1.
4. Brad says, Id like to go play with Florida (makes sense, he knows players on the team, hes familiar with them as they are in the division, and its east cost with a bazillion 3.5 hr flights back and forth for his wife and kids.)
5. Sweeny calls up Zito and says we want to give Marchand a chance to win this year cause I suck at my job and didn't trade Swayman for young forwards and resign Ullmark. What would you give up?
6. Zito says, dude he might not play till the playoffs, Not much, how about a 2nd.
7. Needs to be a first Buckoo, its our captain.
8. alright add a nonsense condition and its a done deal.


did anyone explicitly say this? No but any adult with half functioning reasoning skills could deduce it.

I think #3 went more like. Hey Brad we're going to move you since we can't come to an agreement on an extension. We're leaving the door open to a return when you become a FA. We want to try and do right by you as best we can. Here are the teams we're considering moving you to. Which would be your preference.
 
I think #3 went more like. Hey Brad we're going to move you since we can't come to an agreement on an extension. We're leaving the door open to a return when you become a FA. We want to try and do right by you as best we can. Here are the teams we're considering moving you to. Which would be your preference.
Not sure why everyone keeps going back and forth because it's a done deal,but yea I think you are right here.Personally I don't want him back at 37 unless it's really cheap with no term.Basically as a fan I have moved on and thinking about building it up again with good young talent.
 
You don't think that if Marchand had requested a trade after negotiations fell apart that Sweeney wouldn't use that nugget of info? It would have given him the golden ticket to not have fans pissed about trading Marchand. I mean I can already hear what Sweeney would have said in his presser:

Reporter - Don what led to Marchand being traded?

Sweeney - "We had been having discussions with Brad and his agent since the start of the season about a deal that would keep him in Boston. There were some gaps that we needed to close to make that happen and we knew that. As we got closer to the deadline we continued to have discussion with Brad & his agent. Unfortunately we weren't able to bridge the gaps between where we wanted to be and where Brad saw his value at. At that point Brad and his agent expressed a desire for a new opportunity for him to continue his hockey career."
There are people on both sides and it is pointless to carry on anymore talking about hypotheticals.

I'm out
 
This was from his interview after going to Florida

“I’ve had an incredible run in that organization,” Marchand told reporters. “I’m extremely proud. Just how things went there. It was very disappointing that things didn’t get done just because obviously I love the organization. I wanted to stay there, but at the end of the day, I also know that business is business and every player has a shelf life. Regardless of (if) that’s when we want it to be or not. Sometimes there are things out of our control that dictate situations.

“If we were in playoffs at that point in the time, we’d probably be having a much different conversation and I know that. It’s something we talked about previously, but we weren’t, and at that point, very tough decisions had to be made.”

“One thing I always respect, and I told Cam and Sweens this, (but) they have a job to do and they have to make the best decisions for the team,” Marchand told reporters. “I completely understand. Where the decisions need to be made, yeah, sometimes they work against you, but that’s why I believe Sweens is one of, if not the best general managers in the league.

Then you have Sweeney's comment during his TDL presser
That led to what Sweeney called “a really, really difficult decision to say, let’s give Brad another opportunity with a really good team and then he can make his decision what he thinks is best moving forward.”

What did Marchand have to gain by requesting he be traded? He was going to be a UFA at season end anyways and could pick his destination. Do you think he really wanted to have to move away from his family for the next 2-3 months? He also only had an 8 team no trade list, so its not like he had a lot of protection.
Marchand has a step son that his wife had when they married.
I wonder if the boy's father would give his ex-wife (Brads wife) permission to move their son out of state?
This of course is a question if
A) his biological father is in the picture and in his life?
B) If there's a custody agreement that prevents either parent
from moving the boy out of state?
That being the case, if Brad wants to stay in the game and if it is the case that the stepson can't be moved out of state, it's a lot easier for Brad to sign back with Boston than another team and be able to go home most days and be with his family.
 
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This expansion talks is giving me headaches thinking about our mainly AHL roster…

They want an additional 4 teams by 2030 (?!)
Gary "dumb ass" Betteman, oh and you forgot add, 100game schedule, so that it will increase more rivalries, ........ oh sorry, I misspoke, that should increase "revenue" . Who would ever think that.
 
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We should be happy if we end up with either Desnoyers or Frondell, but unless the Bruins fall to 8 we likely aren’t getting them. 8 isn’t even high chance at the moment, if ANA wins 5 of their remaining 14 games, we can only take 6 points for the rest of the year to move from #9 to #8. Hopefully the lottery doesn’t push us back a spot either.

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How do people feel about the 9-13 guys. I particularly wonder about O'Brien or Bear if anyone cares to break them down a little. I'll research to, but always appreciate the inputs here if you have time.
 
How do people feel about the 9-13 guys. I particularly wonder about O'Brien or Bear if anyone cares to break them down a little. I'll research to, but always appreciate the inputs here if you have time.

Probably should move the discussion to draft thread.

I think all of them could develop into first line players, but the further you go down the list the more likely they top out as middle six. And getting deeper it becomes more likely they are 3rd liners

So like your top 4 might have a 60% chance of being a first like player, and the the 4-8 group might be 40%, and 9-12 might be 25%

And this is just pulling percentages out of the air, but it kind of gives you the point.

Guys like Bear or Obrien might be equally likely to be 3rd liners as they are first line, and the biggest most likely to be second liners. But it certainly is within the realm of possibility that Bear has a better career than Hagens, etc
 
Lane Hutson will win rookie-of-the-year and is already a Top 5 puck-moving/offensive D-man in this league, controls the game like only a handful of D-men can. Matheson/Carrier/Savard are solid experienced veterans. Struble is former 2nd rounder and solid all-around. I don't see any Parker Wotherspoon's or Jordan Oesterle's on that D.

Took a long-time for St. Louis to get his man-on-man defensive scheme drilled into his players. Now they are seeing the benefits of it.

Bruins D when healthy on paper looks just fine. But in real game situations it has been a disaster, whatever Sacco and Co. are preaching to their D-men is simply not working or at the very least the D-men haven't adjusted to it enough.
I want a new coach with new well built systems that can get player buy in. I think this is a bigger issue then the talent deficit at this time. Talent deficit can be addressed in free agency and the draft with no coach and no systems you really don't even have the proper information to research the players who fit in the future. Sure everyone wants, speed, skill and intangibles, but what do we need is harder to say not knowing if we will be playing like the Panthers, the Golden Knights or like a Claude Julien redux.
 
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LAS VEGAS — The game was decided but the Bruins decided to fight on.

The Golden Knights had taken control midway through and built a 5-0 lead with five-plus minutes remaining Thursday night at T-Mobile Arena.

For a lot of teams, that’s quittin' time.
But the Bruins, who have been through a coaching change, major lineup-altering injuries, and a seismic roster overhaul during trade deadline week, kept skating, kept finishing their checks, and kept moving forward.

It was an indication that there is still fight left in this group.

“It has to be,” said coach Joe Sacco, his club mired in a four-game losing streak. “I mean, that’s all we have. We have to make sure that whatever comes our way that we stick with it and we embrace the challenge that’s in front of us. So, I mean, we just have to keep playing in certain situations.”

“I don’t think there’s a question about the fight in here. I think it’s just we’ve got to understand the position we’re in and try not to lose sight of the end goal,” said Geekie. “I know it’s hard. We’re trying to take it one game at a time, but we’re all working for the same goal, and I believe in this group in here, and I know everybody believes in it, as well. So, I mean, I don’t think the fight ever left. I wouldn’t put too much weight on the goal as to how we finish the game, but it’s just something we’ve got to learn from. Try to take the things we can use in the next game and go into San Jose and use the strengths that we had tonight.”

The fight is the biggest thing Boston (30-31-9) has going for it. Guys are fighting for wins, of course, but also for ice time and for jobs. Be it this season or next, be it in Boston or another NHL outpost.

The Bruins have a dozen games left, beginning Saturday against the baby Sharks in San Jose, Calif. The postseason seems like a pipedream unless they can rip off the kind of streak that they haven’t been able to manage all season.

“It’s one game at a time and it should be simplified to one shift at a time and everything we can control, and we can’t let things snowball and worry about the past because we can’t control it,” said Jeremy Swayman, who has lost three straight since his back-to-back wins following the trade deadline. “And that’s a message that we hope to get across to everyone here, and we just need to keep moving forward. It’s all we can control and again, just keep pushing for that playoff spot.”

A young veteran at 26, Swayman, like Geekie, hasn’t noticed any drop-off in effort level despite the results not being there.

“I’m really proud of this group and the way that we’re battling the adversity that’s come our way,” he said. “Everyone that’s put the jersey on has been called upon, has given their all effort, and that’s all I want from these guys, and I think they’re doing a good job of that.”
 
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Any interest in John Taveras at 3 years / 20 million?

It really depends on what direction they want to go. If the goal is to try to cobble together something for 25/26, and you are going to bring Marchy back then I guess adding Tavares for 3 years would make some degree of sense. I tend to doubt Tavares would want to come to Boston for a deal like that

It has the real potential to Nashville on you though and really explode in your face
 
Any interest in John Taveras at 3 years / 20 million?


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