BruinDust
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That quote was from a scout. Pulled it from Bob McKenzie's January draft ranking article. I should of included the link.
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That quote was from a scout. Pulled it from Bob McKenzie's January draft ranking article. I should of included the link.
The Sharks don't need an 8 mil goaltender any more than the Bruins do.
BruinDust
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I distinctly remember the first time I ever heard of McDavid, siting in Halifax airport reading a magazine in 2012 and Bob McKenzie (I think) had an article about the next big things in hockey, McDavid and Ho-Sang. At least he was half right.
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Florida was the only trading partner because of how late the negotiations were handled.
If they were clearer on Marchand's demands, they could have drove the market and matched the Brock Nelson return.
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Patdud
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marchand didnt want to be traded at all and they werent about to trade him somewhere without his input regardless of his list. so no actually.
Source ?
Once they said we are not giving you 4 years, who knows if he said then trade me......
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Who wouldn't. Asksrov is a stud, but same as Swayman stuck behind a shit roster.
Oates2Neely
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Why one trading partner? IIRC Marchand only had an 8 team no trade list. Right or wrong, Sweeney is responsible for the decision to move him to Florida and only Florida. He absolutely could have shopped him to other teams. I’m not suggesting that would’ve been the right move. But it was Sweeney’s decision.
ON3M4N
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This was from his interview after going to Florida
“I’ve had an incredible run in that organization,” Marchand told reporters. “I’m extremely proud. Just how things went there. It was very disappointing that things didn’t get done just because obviously I love the organization. I wanted to stay there, but at the end of the day, I also know that business is business and every player has a shelf life. Regardless of (if) that’s when we want it to be or not. Sometimes there are things out of our control that dictate situations.
“If we were in playoffs at that point in the time, we’d probably be having a much different conversation and I know that. It’s something we talked about previously, but we weren’t, and at that point, very tough decisions had to be made.”
“One thing I always respect, and I told Cam and Sweens this, (but) they have a job to do and they have to make the best decisions for the team,” Marchand told reporters. “I completely understand. Where the decisions need to be made, yeah, sometimes they work against you, but that’s why I believe Sweens is one of, if not the best general managers in the league.
Then you have Sweeney's comment during his TDL presser
That led to what Sweeney called “a really, really difficult decision to say, let’s give Brad another opportunity with a really good team and then he can make his decision what he thinks is best moving forward.”
What did Marchand have to gain by requesting he be traded? He was going to be a UFA at season end anyways and could pick his destination. Do you think he really wanted to have to move away from his family for the next 2-3 months? He also only had an 8 team no trade list, so its not like he had a lot of protection.
22Brad Park
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They should have gotten same type return but our GM was to concerned with making him happy. I still liked the deadline though but you are not wrong at all.
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On another note, here is the blueline that is making the playoffs over the Bruins:
They also spend 4 million total on goaltending (Montembeault + Dobes)
They also spend 4 million total on goaltending (Montembeault + Dobes)
Their forwards are a sad bunch as well. Good on them for sacking up and playing hard. They started the season looking similar to present-day Bruins, and look at em now.
Also, f*** the Canadiens
Id
Reports are he was offered 3 years. If he really didn't want to go he could have taken that
No player or team is going to come out and say they screwed me
By refusing to sign for less than 4, he opened the door
I'd call that vague
Reports are he was offered 3 years. If he really didn't want to go he could have taken that
No player or team is going to come out and say they screwed me
By refusing to sign for less than 4, he opened the door
BruinDust
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Lane Hutson will win rookie-of-the-year and is already a Top 5 puck-moving/offensive D-man in this league, controls the game like only a handful of D-men can. Matheson/Carrier/Savard are solid experienced veterans. Struble is former 2nd rounder and solid all-around. I don't see any Parker Wotherspoon's or Jordan Oesterle's on that D.
Took a long-time for St. Louis to get his man-on-man defensive scheme drilled into his players. Now they are seeing the benefits of it.
Bruins D when healthy on paper looks just fine. But in real game situations it has been a disaster, whatever Sacco and Co. are preaching to their D-men is simply not working or at the very least the D-men haven't adjusted to it enough.
22Brad Park
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They have a really good forward coming from Russia next season I know that.They Also drafted a big D man with a top pick Rembacher or however it's spelled but yea that D and in playoff spot is amazing.
Swaymans attitude started in those Maine business classes.
ON3M4N
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Why does he need to take it if he really didn't want to go? Why couldn't he have just played out the rest of the season and kept talks going? Just because he refused to sign for less than 4yrs doesn't mean he requested a trade.
You initial comment was basically who knows if he requested a trade and you wanted a source saying he didn't. His comments and Sweeney's don't hint that he requested a trade. If he had I have no doubt in my mind that Sweeney & Co would have thrown that nugget out there. They would have used that to save face and make Brad look like the bad guy.
Again Sweeney did not read the room, when he first got an inclination that Marchand was going to be hard to sign he should have been moved, which would mean trading a healthy Marchand, one might have opened up the market a little more and drive his value up also.
No where did he say " I told them I did not want to be traded and they did it anyways."
There is a lot of double talk in that statement with no clarity
Anyways it doesn't matter,there are two sides and people will never be convinced what they want to believe or wanted to happen is not the way it really happened
22Brad Park
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That would be our GM putting himself in a position of weakness if he kept him past deadline with no deal in place.I get what you are trying to point out though .I think they tried to hammer something out to long that would not come together.In the end Donny put him in a place close to family out of respect and also gave him a good chance to win .I can live with it, but his job is to the Bruins first ,which he even made reference to .This was not a case of that however.Anyways, it's done now & we can move on from it at least.
ON3M4N
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You don't think that if Marchand had requested a trade after negotiations fell apart that Sweeney wouldn't use that nugget of info? It would have given him the golden ticket to not have fans pissed about trading Marchand. I mean I can already hear what Sweeney would have said in his presser:
Reporter - Don what led to Marchand being traded?
Sweeney - "We had been having discussions with Brad and his agent since the start of the season about a deal that would keep him in Boston. There were some gaps that we needed to close to make that happen and we knew that. As we got closer to the deadline we continued to have discussion with Brad & his agent. Unfortunately we weren't able to bridge the gaps between where we wanted to be and where Brad saw his value at. At that point Brad and his agent expressed a desire for a new opportunity for him to continue his hockey career."
Patdud
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you can piece the history together from the many interviews and insider takes.
1. Teams are reaching out to Sweeney about it, but they are still trying to bridge the gap.
2. The meeting happens just before the deadline but the Bruins and Marchand's camp cant find middle on the AAV.
3. Sweeney says, Brad, if you're ok with it we want to you have a chance to win a cup and if you will come off your AAV we'll talk on 7/1.
4. Brad says, Id like to go play with Florida (makes sense, he knows players on the team, hes familiar with them as they are in the division, and its east cost with a bazillion 3.5 hr flights back and forth for his wife and kids.)
5. Sweeny calls up Zito and says we want to give Marchand a chance to win this year cause I suck at my job and didn't trade Swayman for young forwards and resign Ullmark. What would you give up?
6. Zito says, dude he might not play till the playoffs, Not much, how about a 2nd.
7. Needs to be a first Buckoo, its our captain.
8. alright add a nonsense condition and its a done deal.
did anyone explicitly say this? No but any adult with half functioning reasoning skills could deduce it.
