Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XVIII ( if trades occur use specific trade thread)

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As far as Marchy goes, thanks to that Kyperos report and more credibly, the contract impasse, I think Brad is out there and will move. We shall see. I don't want him to move for continuity and leadership's sake, but I bet it happens at 2:58 tomorrow.
 
This is precisely what I’m trying to say - the decision of whether to move pasta or not is not only about his current state value, but equally a function of the overall state of the roster - one guy can’t do it all, and if the supporting cast is not there, you are essentially wasting his value.
This is something Sweeney should have attempted to fix two, three months ago by getting some additional offensive forward help. But to do that Sweeney probably would have to part with someone else on the roster he would rather keep. It is nothing new for Sweeney, we all saw Krejci suffering through multiple underperforming 3rd and 4th line wingers hoping to catch lightning in a bottle, rather than biting the bullet and just fixing the problem. Sweeney tends to over wait, hoping someone will step up, rather than being proactive. That approach is fine, to a point; But at some point the season or opportunity becomes lost by inaction. And once again we are talking about what ifs.
 
Bruins Taking Calls on Franchise Stalwart Brad Marchand As Trade Deadline Nears

Since 2010, forward Brad Marchand has been there for Boston Bruins fans in good times and bad.

He helped the team end a 39-year Stanley Cup drought in 2011, and had a hand in two other conference championships. He's won accolades in spades and scored 976 points—fifth-most in the storied franchise's history. He's invited praise for his passion, and criticism for his aggressive play.

Now, he may be on the way out the door. According to a Thursday afternoon report from Chris Johnston of TSN, the Bruins are taking calls on their captain ahead of Friday's trade deadline.

"While the (Bruins) continue to go back and forth with Brad Marchand on a possible contract extension, word is they're still open to potentially trading their captain," Johnston wrote. "Teams calling with interest aren't being told 'no' right now."

In 61 games this season, Marchand has scored 47 points; he was chosen to represent Canada in the 4-Nations Face-Off in February.

However, Boston has stagnated—and currently sits in seventh place in the Atlantic Division with a 28-27-8 record.
 
If I was confident that Geekie would still be the same guy on the 2nd line and away from Zacha/Pasta, I'd be more comfortable with the Bruins giving him a multi-year deal. I'm kind of on the fence about that... it would be nice if he became the go-to shooter for the 2nd line because it would help solve a piece of the puzzle that is next year's team.

If the plan is to sign Geekie, I'd like to see the Bruins target top 6 left wingers since Marchand is an unknown.


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Zacha is not no 1st line centre.Pastrnak might be buddies with him ,but that has to drive him nuts..Good players are well aware who can do what.

This is something Sweeney should have attempted to fix two, three months ago by getting some additional offensive forward help. But to do that Sweeney probably would have to part with someone else on the roster he would rather keep. It is nothing new for Sweeney, we all saw Krejci suffering through multiple underperforming 3rd and 4th line wingers hoping to catch lightning in a bottle, rather than biting the bullet and just fixing the problem. Sweeney tends to over wait, hoping someone will step up, rather than being proactive. That approach is fine, to a point; But at some point the season or opportunity becomes lost by inaction. And once again we are talking about what ifs.
I would bet the farm Sweenious has a reputation of paying more getting less with other GMs.Thats why he waits so much ,,its they out wait him..
 
I don't see Sweeney trading him against his wishes. You can disagree with it, but I get the sense that management isn't going to force Brad out. Management already has fans pissed off between the horrible season, some of their more question moves (Mitchell Miller) and drama of the Swayman negotiations. It'd be a PR nightmare for them if it came out that they forced Marchand out.
It's about fixing this team though and fans understand that..Holding Brad does not bring them nothing to build on.If he does that he is essentially pushing himself out the door faster because they will suck longer.I am not seeing no quick retool under this regime.See what summer brings I guess.What a mess.
 
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He will replace Sacco essentially passing the buck then is basically what you are saying if this happens.I hope the fire Sweeney chants start soon.

Yeah should have mentioned that bit. New, "better" coach, smoother preseason, add a couple of forwards, pray for better injury luck, try again. I think that's what we're going to get.
 
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Can’t wait to see a 4pm presser tomorrow with a completely disheveled Sweeney and Neely that look like they were on a snow and martini bender, and bags under their eyes big enough to fill Rantanens pockets after working the phone all night, as they announce they “explored options but ultimately only made the Frederic trade and moved Brazzers for a 6th as nothing else felt right for the future of the team. We will look to continue working with Brad and Morgan to find common ground over the summer”
 
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NHL Trade Deadline Falling In Bruins’ Favor, Will They Capitalize?

The NHL trade deadline comes around every year, and every year it’s different.

Some years, the market lends itself to buyers, and contending teams can add premium assets for pennies on the dollar.

This isn’t one of those years.

If the deals that have already been made across the league are any indication, it is very much a seller’s market. Just look at the trade from yesterday between the Tampa Bay Lightning and Seattle Kraken, which featured three draft picks, including two first-round selections, going to Seattle for a pair of bottom-six forwards in Yanni Gourde and Oliver Bjorkstrand.

That only bodes well for a team like the Boston Bruins.

With a record of 1-3-2 since returning from the 4 Nations Face-Off break, the Bruins have continued to slip further and further out of the playoff picture. At this point, it seems more and more likely this will be a lost season on Causeway Street and that it is the ideal time for the Bruins to sell off any and all assets that don’t fit into their future plans.

Operating aggressively at the NHL trade deadline has never been an issue for Bruins general manager Don Sweeney, but he’s, admittedly, never done it like this.

“Historically, we’ve been pretty aggressive when our team has been in a position. I think we’ll take a much more cautious approach as we approach the deadline,” Sweeney said on Feb. 23. “That being said if there are opportunities to improve our team now, and certainly moving forward, whether that’s positional shifts or other teams are trying to identify that we have a strength, then we will look at all opportunities to improve our team now, but more importantly, moving forward.”

Sweeney has already begun that process after trading Trent Frederic to the Edmonton Oilers on Tuesday, and he can’t stop now.

While Frederic was the most obvious of all the Bruins’ trade chips, with his contract set to expire at the end of this season, there are still many others left on the roster who could be and should be, considered disposable.

Brandon Carlo has already received interest on the trade market as a sturdy, right-shot defenseman with good instincts and a playoff resumé is hard to come by these days. He is the exact kind of player that contending teams are looking for this time of year and will be willing to pay extra, given Carlo still has a year left on his contract and that there are so few defensemen available at this year’s deadline.

Charlie Coyle falls under that same category.

While he’s struggled to produce this season, he’s an all-situations center who can bring valuable experience to any team looking to make a deep postseason run and valuable assets back to the Bruins.

Morgan Geekie has had a breakout year in Boston, putting together the first 20-goal campaign of his career. His contract expires after this season, and he is certainly worth re-signing, but maybe not as much as what the Bruins could get for him in a trade.

Even a player like Justin Brazeau, who has been in and out of the lineup lately and has cooled off considerably after having a hot stretch two months ago, can play a role for a club with championship aspirations.

The one Bruins player whose trade value has more than likely decreased, though, is Brad Marchand, as he’s now out week-to-week with an upper-body injury. Then again, the same was thought of Frederic, who the Bruins were still able to get a good return for even while he’s out with a lower-body injury.

Prior to Marchand getting hurt, teams like the Vegas Golden Knights were lining up for the chance to acquire the Bruins captain, and they may still be.

Marchand’s contract is also up after this year, and although both he and the Bruins have said they’d like to agree on an extension, one has yet to materialize at this point.

As the market continues to unfold with only one day left until the NHL trade deadline, the alternative is looking more and more appealing.
 
The news of Parayko going down for 6wks is interesting. They're in the playoff race and could use a big RHD to bolster their backend. Maybe see if you can get a guy like Zachary Bolduc in the deal. He was the 17OA pick back in 2021. Left shot LW/C that just turned 22yrs old and has put up 15G/16A in 78 NHL games. Jimmy Snuggerud would be an awesome get, but IDK if the Blues would part with him in a deal for Carlo.
 
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It's about fixing this team though and fans understand that..Holding Brad does not bring them nothing to build on.If he does that he is essentially pushing himself out the door faster because they will suck longer.I am not seeing no quick retool under this regime.See what summer brings I guess.What a mess.

What do you gain though? A couple of lottery tickets? Do you feel confident in Sweeney/Neely drafting and developing someone with a pick they get from Marchand? If you're lucky that pick is in the NHL 3-4 after being drafted.

Maybe they flip those picks for something else, but those picks likely are later in a round because Marchand would be going to a contender. You can't quantify the value of having a guy like Marchand in the locker room and one of your leaders. If he wants to be here and help this team get back to what they were, then great.
 
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I don't see Sweeney trading him against his wishes. You can disagree with it, but I get the sense that management isn't going to force Brad out. Management already has fans pissed off between the horrible season, some of their more question moves (Mitchell Miller) and drama of the Swayman negotiations. It'd be a PR nightmare for them if it came out that they forced Marchand out.
Why would It be management forcing Brad out if they can’t come to an agreement with dollars and term.

Maybe Marchand contract demands are to much in term or money or both. For management and where their willing to go. I wouldn’t say that’s forcing Marchand out. They need to do what’s best for the organization moving forward.
 
Why would It be management forcing Brad out if they can’t come to an agreement with dollars and term.

Maybe Marchand contract demands are to much in term or money or both. For management and where their willing to go. I wouldn’t say that’s forcing Marchand out. They need to do what’s best for the organization moving forward.

If management goes to Marchand and asks if he wants to go to a contender and he so no.....and then trades him anyways, then they're forcing him out.

Majority if this fan base has zero faith in management running this organization and question every move.... but then they turn around and say they (management) need to do what's best for the organization.
 
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If management goes to Marchand and asks if he wants to go to a contender and he so no.....and then trades him anyways, then they're forcing him out.

Majority if this fan base has zero faith in management running this organization and question every move.... but then they turn around and say they (management) need to do what's best for the organization.
Your not forcing a player out if you cant come to a contract agreement. Its kind of mutual.

Now we have no idea what those demands are one way or the other, but just because Marchand says he doesn't want to leave, doesn't mean shit if he doesn't sign. What are the Bruins going to do give him a blank contract and say ok then fill this out, on what you want and for how long, and we'll get it signed and filed with the league office.

Just because Marchand says he doesn't want to leave. doesn't give him control of the amount and term of his contract, they still need to come to an agreement. Its a leverage tool he may be using to get more term and money, we have no idea, but it very well could be, because I don't see him taking a home town discount, and I feel he was willing to he would already be signed.
 
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I don't want Sweeney to make a move for the sake of making a move. There are some guys that are likely better to move in the off-season when teams have more flexibility:

Geekie - Pending RFA and on pace for 27G/17A. Seems like a guy you may want to keep as he's gotten better each season he's been in Boston.

Brazeau - Pending UFA, maybe some GM falls in love with his size, but if he's not in the plans going forward, trade him at the TDL

Carlo - If you're blown away with an offer at the TDL then take it. If not, you hold onto him and shop him over the summer. His 10 team NTC goes down to a 8 team NTC.

Peeke - Same deal as Carlo

Wotherspoon - if he's not in the plans going forward, trade him at the TDL

Koepke - if he's not in the plans going forward, trade him at the TDL

Brown, Tufte, McLaughlin, Callahan - All will be UFA's this off-season, but likely have zero value. The may have more value to the organization for an AHL playoff run with Providence
Very rational - how dare you

Carlo could go but could retire a Bruins in 10 years

Interesting how this will go
 

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