Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XVI

[DiggityDog]

There’s really no wrong answer when it comes to Marchand.

If you deal him you are probably getting a first and a prospect. The first will likely be a very late one at that. Still having two first opens up other opportunities like building you’re cupboard or potentially moving up, acquiring a player, etc.

Alternatively you keep your captain and re-sign him. You get an effective player who loves the organization and provides a good example for both younger guys and vets alike. I believe with some tweaking they can be right back to contention next year, or at the very least more competitive.

Personally I lean towards the latter. Having said that, logically speaking, the former may be what’s best for the overall health of the organization. No one really knows.

I will say this, the whole “trade and then sign on July 1st” thing is a fantasy. Anyone banking on that is setting themselves up to get hurt.

 

[HustleB]

Just reading what's out there, it looks like Sweeney has a deadline set to re-sign Marchand and will probably move him if they can't reach an agreement on a new deal.

I've been trying to decipher the noncommittal comments, but I think you may have nailed it on the head here.

 

[Number8]

Teams with highest number of current prospects generally ranked higher than Boston's top prospect (Lysell - generally in 70's).

If you could snag a first and a good prospect from a team like Winnipeg for Marchy you'd have to think about it.

Beyond that, look with some gloom at the number of teams that we are aligned with now who already have a shit ton more prospects that are better than our best prospect.

Considering they will all draft high again this year, we have issues. The days of us laughing at Montreal are coming to an end, I fear.

TEAM	# Prospects ranked over Lysell	2025 Draft Rank as of today
NAS	6	3
CHI	5	2
MTL	4	8
SJ	4	1
STL	4	11
UTA	4	12
WIN	4	32
BUF	3	4
CAL	3	17
CLB	3	15
DET	3	19
MIN	3	27
NYR	3	13
SEA	3	5

 

[GordonHowe]

Season ending injuries to Hampus Lindholm, and, possibly, Charlie McAvoy, have contributed to the unique confluence of negativity around the Boston Bruins this season.

The injuries made their decision for them, thank God.

If there had been the slightest possibility of reaping playoff gate, I am certain we would be talking about the moves Sweeney might entertain to slip into the post season by the back door,

 

[Drift]

Husso trade and now Copp, DET has plenty of room and potential LTIR if they need it.

 

[DKH]

hoping to see something like frederic to washington for a 1st and mangiapane...or to edmonton for a 2026 1st and jeff skinner (or arvidsson, even if he has an extra year)

I like trades and I like drafting so I’m pretty excited ~ Sweeney swings for it. Guerin & Donny are very tight couple of Ahhhndover boys - Wild has deep prospect pool

I’m sharing info as an under the radar insider but more importantly…..

I’m going with Gorski tonight and meeting up with Pat aka @Bad Hat Harry between periods

Wish you could join us between periods

If you come up let me know I’ll bring all the most entertaining boys to hook up

 

[DKH]

Season ending injuries to Hampus Lindholm, and, possibly, Charlie McAvoy, have contributed to a unique confluence of negativity around the Boston Bruins this season.

The injuries made their decision for them,
thank God.

If there had been the slightest possibility of reaping playoff gate, I am certain we would be talking about the moves Sweeney might entertain to slip into the post season by the back door,

Yup hate to see injuries but let’s sell

I want to draft draft draft

Making playoffs and losing to Leafs catastrophic

 

[Oates2Neely]

They can't acquire one without having to give up one of Pasta or McAvoy. They don't have other pieces who would be enough

The best way is to tank this season and hope that you draft at least draft in the top 10, even better would be the top 5, and get one of the better prospects who can fill in right away. The other hope is FA next year. Eichel or McDavid could be available.

I don't see any other way to get one.

Drafting a center is their best bet.

Other than that I’d inquire about Shane Wright who is Seattle’s 3C. Beniers & Stephenson are locked in as 1-2. Wright is 21 years old. He has potential. Time for Sweeney to get creative. He doesn’t have many assets.

Bruins best trade chips?
Lohrei
Poitras
Lysell*
Merkulov*

 

[LouJersey]

There’s really no wrong answer when it comes to Marchand.

If you deal him you are probably getting a first and a prospect. The first will likely be a very late one at that. Still having two first opens up other opportunities like building you’re cupboard or potentially moving up, acquiring a player, etc.

Alternatively you keep your captain and re-sign him. You get an effective player who loves the organization and provides a good example for both younger guys and vets alike. I believe with some tweaking they can be right back to contention next year, or at the very least more competitive.

Personally I lean towards the latter. Having said that, logically speaking, the former may be what’s best for the overall health of the organization. No one really knows.

I will say this, the whole “trade and then sign on July 1st” thing is a fantasy. Anyone banking on that is setting themselves up to get hurt.

What happens if they don’t trade him and then he signs elsewhere?

 

[GordonHowe]

I like trades and I like drafting so I’m pretty excited ~ Sweeney swings for it. Guerin & Donny are very tight couple of Ahhhndover boys - Wild has deep prospect pool

I’m sharing info as an under the radar insider but more importantly…..

I’m going with Gorski tonight and meeting up with Pat aka @Bad Hat Harry between periods

Wish you could join us between periods

If you come up let me know I’ll bring all the most entertaining boys to hook up

Please tell BHH I dig his board name.

 

[DKH]

What happens if they don’t trade him and then he signs elsewhere?

Sweeney I thought indicated it would be resolved by deadline 3/7

The Bruins won’t have that shit show distraction I hope. If I’m Donny Doer and he’s not signed I don’t care what his intentions are he’s being traded. We can bring back

Marchand indicated it’s important start to finish to be here

I’d put it 99% he’s got a deal with Bruins in next 240 hours

 

[Hookslide]

Drafting a center is their best bet.

Other than that I’d inquire about Shane Wright who is Seattle’s 3C. Beniers & Stephenson are locked in as 1-2. Wright is 21 years old. He has potential. Time for Sweeney to get creative. He doesn’t have many assets.

Bruins best trade chips?
Lohrei
Poitras
Lysell*
Merkulov*

I like it, I mentioned Wright, awhile back, I would go for it. Sweeney needs to find a way, none of their prospects measure up to Wright.

 

[Bruin4]

Andrew Copp out for the Season. TFred would be a perfect replacement

 

[DKH]

Please tell BHH I dig his board name.

He’s a great guy - lives near me. He’s got a newborn so he will be in Pro Shop getting stuff at some point. I’ll bring him by - I’ve told him Sweeney hate aside (and he bashes him as well so you guys will have something in common) you are a very nice and intelligent/interesting guy which dwarfs what we think of GMs

I gotta grab that pups Calendar hope they got one

 

[mjhfb]

I like trades and I like drafting so I’m pretty excited ~ Sweeney swings for it. Guerin & Donny are very tight couple of Ahhhndover boys - Wild has deep prospect pool

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[Fenian24]

Teams with highest number of current prospects generally ranked higher than Boston's top prospect (Lysell - generally in 70's).

If you could snag a first and a good prospect from a team like Winnipeg for Marchy you'd have to think about it.

Beyond that, look with some gloom at the number of teams that we are aligned with now who already have a shit ton more prospects that are better than our best prospect.

Considering they will all draft high again this year, we have issues. The days of us laughing at Montreal are coming to an end, I fear.

TEAM	# Prospects ranked over Lysell	2025 Draft Rank as of today
NAS	6	3
CHI	5	2
MTL	4	8
SJ	4	1
STL	4	11
UTA	4	12
WIN	4	32
BUF	3	4
CAL	3	17
CLB	3	15
DET	3	19
MIN	3	27
NYR	3	13
SEA	3	5

Marchand has a limited no trade clause, I don't see him waiving for Winnipeg.

 

[DKH]

I like it, I mentioned Wright, awhile back, I would go for it. Sweeney needs to find a way, none of their prospects measure up to Wright.

I want Caleb Desnoyers - profiles Bergeron tree

 

[PlayMakers]

4 things to consider for those who don’t want to trade him:

1. How would you feel if you didn’t trade him, but extend him, and he gets another injury at any point in the next 12 months, let’s say to his hip and has to leave the game? What if that injury happens this April?

2. What if he refuses all offers Sweeney throws at him before the deadline, and then refuses anything less than 5.25x2 starting next season?

3. You know he is 37 in May right? I love the guy, 2nd favorite Bruin of my lifetime, but you are talking about an immediate roster/future impact in the return you can get for him. Outside of Rantanen going back to the block, he would likely be the #1 trade chip. Vet Leader that can actually score. Contenders would go nuts for him. You can say he’d only bring in a first, but we all know how the deadline gets and he’s going to cost a haul.

4. He can still be re-signed in July if you trade him.

The only thing on your list that pushes me toward moving him is if you know you can re-sign him in July. If he gets hurt at some point in the future? That's the worry with anyone. What if he wants $5.25 over 2 years? That's a discount for a 60 point guy with intangibles. He's 37? Yeah he is, but he looked great with good players at 4nations, he still carries a line.

Let me flip this thinking on you...

What if you deal Marchand against his wishes, and it really resonates negatively with players around the league and Boston loses it's allure as a destination for players.

What if a promising UFA, let's use Sam Bennett as an example, was planning to sign here to play with Marchy because he had chemistry and they really got along off the ice but now he's not interested because Marchand isn't here and he doesn't really know anyone else.

What if you waste Pasta's prime? With Marchand, you still need a 1c and a top6 W, without Marchand you need a 1c and TWO top6 W's. And it's not enough to just get someone skilled. Ehlers (who I like) is skilled, but is he going to drag this team into the fight? Who's replacing that? Playoff rounds aren't just won by skill they're won by will. How long will it take to replace that element?

 

[DKH]

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They both live in North shore town of Andover - I worked there my entire career and have a lot of coworkers and friends there. Pretty wealthy overall

 

[Hookslide]

I want Caleb Desnoyers - profiles Bergeron tree

You might be right, but I heard that song before on Bergeron comparisons, 7.8 mil later I am still looking for the comparison, not fair to the kid you mentioned, but he must be obtained through the draft anyways.

 

[DKH]

You might be right, but I heard that song before on Bergeron comparisons, 7.8 mil later I am still looking for the comparison, not fair to the kid you mentioned, but he must be obtained through the draft anyways.

He’s been much better

Donny Hockey mentioned he started off recovering from injury

Monty wanted out coached like shit

I don’t know anyone who had an underlying relationship who got divorced and remarried quicker than Monty

Terrible hiring by Donny

His hiring F’d them a likely Cup - had he hired Maurice or went with Sacco Magic they win the Cup

 

[PB37]

Drafting a center is their best bet.

Other than that I’d inquire about Shane Wright who is Seattle’s 3C. Beniers & Stephenson are locked in as 1-2. Wright is 21 years old. He has potential. Time for Sweeney to get creative. He doesn’t have many assets.

Bruins best trade chips?
Lohrei
Poitras
Lysell*
Merkulov*

I don't think Seattle will trade Wright unless it's a clear win on their part. He's finally starting to show why he was picked so high. For how good Beniers has done as a young NHL player, Wright has nearly identical PPG ( 49 per 82 vs 47 per 82 ) while getting far less TOI. If Seattle is smart, they keep both kids as their #1 and #2 and build around them.

 

[pucksindeep92]

The only thing on your list that pushes me toward moving him is if you know you can re-sign him in July. If he gets hurt at some point in the future? That's the worry with anyone. What if he wants $5.25 over 2 years? That's a discount for a 60 point guy with intangibles. He's 37? Yeah he is, but he looked great with good players at 4nations, he still carries a line.

Let me flip this thinking on you...

What if you deal Marchand against his wishes, and it really resonates negatively with players around the league and Boston loses it's allure as a destination for players.

What if a promising UFA, let's use Sam Bennett as an example, was planning to sign here to play with Marchy because he had chemistry and they really got along off the ice but now he's not interested because Marchand isn't here and he doesn't really know anyone else.

What if you waste Pasta's prime? With Marchand, you still need a 1c and a top6 W, without Marchand you need a 1c and TWO top6 W's. And it's not enough to just get someone skilled. Ehlers (who I like) is skilled, but is he going to drag this team into the fight? Who's replacing that? Playoff rounds aren't just won by skill they're won by will. How long will it take to replace that element?

Yea let’s not pretend like a minor injury to an almost 37 year old that has been out through the post season wringer with history of surgeries is the same as most players though. It’s not apples to apples. His risk of a career ending injury is higher than probably 98% of the league. Bergy, Krecji, and Rask all recentely mentioned how they can barely play a round of golf, you think Marchand is any different right now? Bergy was putting up points just like Brad but ended it because his body couldn’t take it and didn’t want to have an ugly out.

I think Brad is a proud, sometimes too proud, warrior type player that is more likely to power through until it’s too late honestly. So I think you realllllly need to think hard on that type of money, especially if the term is more than a year.

And talking about Pastas prime as a reason to keep him assumes that you think we can legit contend asap without the picks that Brad can bring in. Also assumes he stays scoring like this which again, age says unlikely and already has shown. You are light years a better team over the next 4 years with what you can bring in by trading him in the right way.

 

[bp14]

Teams with highest number of current prospects generally ranked higher than Boston's top prospect (Lysell - generally in 70's).

If you could snag a first and a good prospect from a team like Winnipeg for Marchy you'd have to think about it.

Beyond that, look with some gloom at the number of teams that we are aligned with now who already have a shit ton more prospects that are better than our best prospect.

Considering they will all draft high again this year, we have issues. The days of us laughing at Montreal are coming to an end, I fear.

TEAM	# Prospects ranked over Lysell	2025 Draft Rank as of today
NAS	6	3
CHI	5	2
MTL	4	8
SJ	4	1
STL	4	11
UTA	4	12
WIN	4	32
BUF	3	4
CAL	3	17
CLB	3	15
DET	3	19
MIN	3	27
NYR	3	13
SEA	3	5

I don’t think you have to “think” about it, you have to do it.

This team does not have the talent to compete for a Cup in the next 2-3 years, the likely wjndow where Marchand is a solid contributor. If he wants to sign a cheap deal, then yes you keep him. But if not, and you can get a first and a prospect, no brainer. Franchise comes before player, and this franchise has a mediocre NHL roster and crap for prospects.

 

[DKH]

So I’m GM

1. Marchand - need an extension should be easy enough ~ Bergeron took 5 M no ego wanted to win. Where is he here

2. I would like to deal Korpi and bring up a Providence G

3. Coyle - I’m keeping and having him play RW and available to play C

If I get overwhelmed obviously would but I need a lot - can’t see him wanting to go and don’t blame.

4. Carlo same as Coyle ~ have to get a bounty

5. Frederic trade

6. Braz trade

7. Beecher - I’m listening and I might be at where Farinacci gets chance - looks legit

8. Multi year deal for Geekie