Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XVI

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I would not say cooked. He offers far more than Recchi did and Recchi was a key contributor in his time with the Bruins.

Sweeney has to decide if Marchand returns enough in trade and will also return after as a free agent.
Recchi would not put himself above team and be selfish and lazy when the game is on the line Marchand has proven time and time again he would, especially with his meaningless penalties he takes that have nothing to do with a play.

Time to move!

Bring on the laughing clowns that don't like to hear the truth.
 
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Again, from the penthouse (4 Nation FO) to the outhouse (aka your 2024-2025 Boston Bruins).

Pee-yew,

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With Mark Divver,



A dollop of Haggs & Mick,



"Rinse and repeat.

"Always repeat."
 
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I would not say cooked. He offers far more than Recchi did and Recchi was a key contributor in his time with the Bruins.

Sweeney has to decide if Marchand returns enough in trade and will also return after as a free agent.
Thank you for adding something to the conversation, more should be like you. You don't agree at least you respond like an adult.
 
They missed the playoffs with 93 points by laying an egg on the last game of the season in 2015. The nucleus of that team which was constructed by the previous regime, was the same nucleus who went to the finals 3 years later. If Sweeney would have used his cap space more wisely than signing free agents in a Backes and Belesky and had a more competent draft in 2015, there’s no telling how good this team could have been.

IMHO Sweeney gets a lot of credit for what PC had already built, not saying it’s been all bad, but I in no way have any faith in him moving forward. If Marchand not here next year, this team is officially Sweenys with the exception of the one Superstar Pastrnak who was already on board. It is without question far worse off from what he inherited.
Fair enough. I wrote out a whole reply with counterpoints but it's nothing I haven't said before, so not sure there's any value in repeating it.
 
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Fair enough. I wrote out a whole reply with counterpoints but it's nothing I haven't said before, so not sure there's any value in repeating it.
I’m in the same boat as in why I don’t want him moving forward. Listed many reasons in the past and at this point you either want him moving forward or you don’t. I do think he’s here to stay though, I just hope he has better fortune moving forward.
 
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I like Sullivan, a lot. He's experienced, knowledgable, innovative, respected...

There is just something about re-hiring the guy they fired 20 years ago that doesn't sit well with me. He was the coach right before this franchise finally turned a page and symbolically moved on from the Sinden/MOC era. I don't doubt he's come a long way as a coach since that time but I'm fine if Sullivan's next gig is elsewhere. Bruins need to start looking forward for inspiration not still clutching onto the past.
 
Tomorrow’s Globe:

Trade deadline​

Will the Bruins be buyers or sellers?​


The Bruins returned to work Saturday, their first game post-4 Nations, and have but six games to go before the March 7 trade deadline. They play the night before the deadline in Raleigh, N.C., then March 8 in Tampa (scheduled as 3 p.m. matinee).

Minus their top two defensemen, Charlie McAvoy and Hampus Lindholm, they portend at this hour to be sellers and not buyers, particularly if McAvoy is slow to build back from his shoulder injury and related infection. The infection is potentially more worrisome because of the myriad complications that could arise if the infection lingered, but the structural hit to the AC joint — the union of collarbone and shoulder blade — could be enough to leave McAvoy sidelined for six weeks or more. The regular season ends April 15 (Devils at the Garden).

If they are sellers, captain Brad Marchand, now with a 4 Nations gold medal in his treasure chest, owns one of the few contracts the Bruins are free to wheel and also get a worthwhile return.

Based on the mind-set and operating standards of GM Don Sweeney, it’s hard to imagine Marchand getting dealt unless he requests it and/or checks off on it. Both Sweeney and team president Cam Neely carefully have crafted a respectful, professional culture around the work force and know the message could go awry in the room, and throughout the league (think: prospective free-agent signees), if they wheeled out their captain basically without his blessing.

It took the Rangers’ room weeks to recover after GM Chris Drury made life, shall we say, generally unpleasant for then captain Jacob Trouba, eventually forcing the prickly defenseman to accept getting dealt to Anaheim. Marchand is a more productive player than Trouba and has meant more to the organization. He won’t be getting a deadline day’s bumrush out of town.

However, at age 36, how much would Marchand bring back in trade? The guess here: maybe a couple of Round 2 picks and a prospect (more AHL filler). Not exciting, but for an organization desperate to draft and develop bonafide NHL talent, a couple of picks even if in, say, the 35-50 range, would be worth grabbing. Keep in mind, Marchand is on target for unrestricted freee agency July 1. At the moment, the Bruins could wheel him, grab the picks, then sign him when he hits the open market.

Sweeney also has a half-dozen names, some with restrictions attached and of varying market appeal, he can consider wheeling: including forwards Charlie Coyle, Pavel Zacha, Morgan Geekie, and Trent Frederic; defenseman Brandon Carlo and goalie Joonas Korpisalo.

If he were to pare more than one or two of those six, then Sweeney would be signaling more of a rebuild than a retool. Those definitions can be vague, but the last aggressive roster rework here was triggered by Joe Thornton getting wheeled to San Jose Nov. 30, 2005.

By the start of the 2006-07 season, GM Mike O’Connell was out (replaced by Peter Chiarelli), coach Mike Sullivan was out (replaced by Dave Lewis), and free-agent hirees Zdeno Chara and Marc Savard were the anchor tenants in the roster rebuild. Five years later, they won the Cup.
 
There is just something about re-hiring the guy they fired 20 years ago that doesn't sit well with me. He was the coach right before this franchise finally turned a page and symbolically moved on from the Sinden/MOC era. I don't doubt he's come a long way as a coach since that time but I'm fine if Sullivan's next gig is elsewhere. Bruins need to start looking forward for inspiration not still clutching onto the past.
I'm just not thrilled with the idea of the Bruins unveiling themselves as a franchise that values talent, hard work and nepotism.
 
Was looking at Providence Bruins last win 4-2 over the comets & it really struck me how bad the Bruins are hurting.The players carrying the mail were Vinny Litteri, Ian Mitchell,Patrick Brown & Tyler Pitlick .Fabian Lysell had 1 assist.There is nothing there to be excited about. What a mess.
 
I'm not one to trade away great contracts. But if Peeke plays out of his mind in the next 13 days as our top pairing D, he's going to have value at that $....
 
Tomorrow’s Globe:

Trade deadline​

Will the Bruins be buyers or sellers?​


The Bruins returned to work Saturday, their first game post-4 Nations, and have but six games to go before the March 7 trade deadline. They play the night before the deadline in Raleigh, N.C., then March 8 in Tampa (scheduled as 3 p.m. matinee).

Minus their top two defensemen, Charlie McAvoy and Hampus Lindholm, they portend at this hour to be sellers and not buyers, particularly if McAvoy is slow to build back from his shoulder injury and related infection. The infection is potentially more worrisome because of the myriad complications that could arise if the infection lingered, but the structural hit to the AC joint — the union of collarbone and shoulder blade — could be enough to leave McAvoy sidelined for six weeks or more. The regular season ends April 15 (Devils at the Garden).

If they are sellers, captain Brad Marchand, now with a 4 Nations gold medal in his treasure chest, owns one of the few contracts the Bruins are free to wheel and also get a worthwhile return.

Based on the mind-set and operating standards of GM Don Sweeney, it’s hard to imagine Marchand getting dealt unless he requests it and/or checks off on it. Both Sweeney and team president Cam Neely carefully have crafted a respectful, professional culture around the work force and know the message could go awry in the room, and throughout the league (think: prospective free-agent signees), if they wheeled out their captain basically without his blessing.

It took the Rangers’ room weeks to recover after GM Chris Drury made life, shall we say, generally unpleasant for then captain Jacob Trouba, eventually forcing the prickly defenseman to accept getting dealt to Anaheim. Marchand is a more productive player than Trouba and has meant more to the organization. He won’t be getting a deadline day’s bumrush out of town.

However, at age 36, how much would Marchand bring back in trade? The guess here: maybe a couple of Round 2 picks and a prospect (more AHL filler). Not exciting, but for an organization desperate to draft and develop bonafide NHL talent, a couple of picks even if in, say, the 35-50 range, would be worth grabbing. Keep in mind, Marchand is on target for unrestricted freee agency July 1. At the moment, the Bruins could wheel him, grab the picks, then sign him when he hits the open market.

Sweeney also has a half-dozen names, some with restrictions attached and of varying market appeal, he can consider wheeling: including forwards Charlie Coyle, Pavel Zacha, Morgan Geekie, and Trent Frederic; defenseman Brandon Carlo and goalie Joonas Korpisalo.

If he were to pare more than one or two of those six, then Sweeney would be signaling more of a rebuild than a retool. Those definitions can be vague, but the last aggressive roster rework here was triggered by Joe Thornton getting wheeled to San Jose Nov. 30, 2005.

By the start of the 2006-07 season, GM Mike O’Connell was out (replaced by Peter Chiarelli), coach Mike Sullivan was out (replaced by Dave Lewis), and free-agent hirees Zdeno Chara and Marc Savard were the anchor tenants in the roster rebuild. Five years later, they won the Cup.
Picks in the 35 to 50 range for Marchand?

Picks 33 to 48 are to non playoff teams. Would Marchand want that?
 
Sweeney apparently speaking tomorrow. Will talk about Mac and Lindholm. That’s never good. Guessing Mac is definitely done for the year. Hoping it’s not the same for Lindholm with a setback but never good when the GM is going to speak on a player.
 
Was looking at Providence Bruins last win 4-2 over the comets & it really struck me how bad the Bruins are hurting.The players carrying the mail were Vinny Litteri, Ian Mitchell,Patrick Brown & Tyler Pitlick .Fabian Lysell had 1 assist.There is nothing there to be excited about. What a mess.
If the Bruins believe Poitras and Lohrei are going to get significantly better, there is at least SOME hope in the short term. If they have questions about their upside as top 6, top 4 contributors in the next year or two, then this is absolutely a mess and they need to sell hard.
 
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I want to see an aggressive retool, with an eye to contend in the next 1-4 years. A combination of hockey trades and selling off expiring contracts. I'd like to see a bunch of mistake prone rookies on the team down the stretch so we can see what we have and slide down the standings into the top6 of the draft in order to get Caleb Desnoyers.

I would like to see Carlo and Coyle moved in hockey trades, preferably for a high potential forward and more of a two-way D. I'm hoping that's the headline.

I'd move Freddy for a 2nd or better. I like the player but I don't want to pay him $4-5m. I'd move Brazeau too. He's not really in my matrix for next year. I re-sign Geekie. He could be a cheap middle 6 option who's young and plays a gritty game.

I would be willing to deal Marchand but only if he promises to come back on July 1st. I want him to finish his career here and I think we need him be part of the solution over the next couple years.


My depth chart (not lines) going forward is...

#1LW - #1C - Pastrnak
Marchand - Zacha - #2RW
Geekie - Lindholm - Poitras
#4LW - Kastelic - #4RW

Lindholm - McAvoy
Zadorov - #2RD
Lohrei - Peeke

Again, that's a depth chart, not necessarily lines or pairs. In other words, I think Zacha is a #2C in the NHL. I think Lindholm is a 3C. I think Poitras right now is a 3rd liner. I think Zadorov is our 2nd or 3rd biggest TOI guy, etc.

Options to fill those holes...

#1C - Draft is our only hope. Misa or Hagens if they win the lottery, Desnoyers, McQueen or Frondell if they're in the top8, O'Brien or Bear if they're top 12.

#1LW - Rantanen, Ehlers or even Marner. Go big in free agency on one of these guys.

#2RW - Lysell? Maybe someone they pick up in the Carlo trade?

#2RD - If they can't get someone in a Coyle trade, then I'd look at Pionk and Fabbro in free agency.

#4LW / #4RW - Tanner Jeannot and Mathieu Olivier. Crash line on steroids.
I like the idea of a Zegras deal. That could be a nice piece to a retool. I wonder if Carlo gets back Zegras.


I suspect we will see poitras on pastas line a little more moving forward. I think they see something there.
 
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If the Bruins believe Poitras and Lohrei are going to get significantly better, there is at least SOME hope in the short term. If they have questions about their upside as top 6, top 4 contributors in the next year or two, then this is absolutely a mess and they need to sell hard.
Considering that our top six after Pasta is very much like a bottom six, they should definitely sell hard.
 

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