Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XV

[Number8]

Agreed. Wasn’t Hathaway a 1st and 2nd for a UFA?

If prices are that much different this year then Marchy stays. Can’t imagine B’s would make that move unless Marchy demanded out which I cannot see.

Ignore, please. I’m a knucklehead.

 

[PlayMakers]

Yes.

"Safe."

Who else used to play it that way?

Dean Letourneau was probably the least safe, most high risk/high potential player they could have taken.

 

[GordonHowe]

everything you said makes him a desirable trade target for playoff teams, along with his playoff experience.

Bruins imo should take advantage of this, his value is still probably very high. Package him with Freddy and you should be able to get a real nice return

I don't think I would move a player like that, ideally anyway.

Are you going to turn around and sign or draft someone similar?

This reminds of the Geek.

He's proven he can play up and down the line up. Morgan has proven chemistry with David and Pavel (unlike, say, Elias Lindholm).

He makes 4 million.

I wouldn't trade him (again, ideally).

They've got a valuable player there; why fix something that ain't broke?

 

[Absurdity]

Please don't think I was having a go at you. I definitely was not meaning to do that.

I think a lot of media types just put their opinions out there. If they had sources they’d use (named or not) them.

Just my opinion.

I certainly don’t know what B’s will do, thats for sure.

Don't worry, I'm not Frank or related to him . I didn't take your post that way. I just see a lot of people, not so much on here, trying to piggy-back on more Marchand rumors coming from Sláinte. We will have to wait and see if Marchand is moved, but I don't see the rumormill quieting down anytime soon.

 

[Bruin4]

I don't think I would move a player like that, ideally anyway.

Are you going to turn around and sign or draft someone similar?

This reminds of the Geek.

He's proven he can play up and down the line up. Morgan has proven chemistry with David and Pavel (unlike, say, Elias Lindholm).

He makes 4 million.

I wouldn't trade him (again, ideally).

They've got a valuable player there; why fix something that ain't broke?

I think he’s on a downward spiral. Way to many brain farts, soft plays in his own end. He’s not very good under pressure, and seems to give the puck away way too often for my liking. His contract, his experience and another team feeling he’s just having a bad year could give you a nice return, if so imo you hop on it.

 

[GordonHowe]

Dean Letourneau was probably the least safe, most high risk/high potential player they could have taken.

Yes.

I gave Sweeney full marks at the time for taking a major swing on a 6'7" *center* project not known for a bruising style.

I still do.

Not the safe selection and worth the whiff if that's how it turns out.

At least Sweeney tried.

I'm heartily sick of him, but he's proven he can find a diamond in the rough (especially through his favorite and most successful route, the college ranks. Free agency, not so much).

 

[Raleighfern]

I just looks at his stats, wow we have not seen anything like that since the Seguin era. The kid has scored 44 goals in 47 games and has 99 pts so far.

hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=262403

I believe dom is responsible for ohl writers.

OHL Writers

ohlwriters.me

he has a scouting report on Misa (along with a bunch of other high end prospects).

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I said it was hypothetical ----- main point is that identifying and going after/getting players who matter is the key to success, almost regardless of cost.

How many players that matter get traded without getting a player that matters back?

 

[BruinDust]

I would move anyone but despite the beating he takes here, Carlo is a very capable stay at home defenseman with a good stick as well as a right shot. Plus, he has nine years of experience, is still relatively young, doesn't break the bank @ 4.1 million plus, and is signed through 26-27.

He's also a career plus 129,

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I would keep Brandon if possible.

Brandon Carlo is still a very capable player. I think a lot of his struggles this year are due to coaching and then the mistakes kill confidence. I'm not looking to outright get rid of him, nor am I willing to sell him for whatever like a draft pick.

But here is where I am at with him. The Bruins have now tried to have success with him and McAvoy as the locked in No.1 and No.2 right-shot D-men on this team since the 2017 playoffs basically. How many more times do you run that two-some back? Carlo has his limitations, especially in the offensive end. I don't think his overall skill-set is as valuable as it was say 5 years ago. Not to say defending isn't important but spending time now in the offensive end is also very important, I'd argue more so.

Then factor in how his limitations mesh with the 3 left-shot D who are on this team and appear to be here for awhile. For whatever reason him and Lohrei hasn't worked. Him with Zadorov struggle to get the puck out of the zone and haven't worked out as a big shut-down pair. Leaves them with Hampus who is getting older and I'd argue should really be paired with McAvoy out of the 3 left-shot D.

Then factor in your getting a lot of the same characteristics out of Peeke now. Peeke is only 1 min. less on average than Carlo. Is the prudent move to move Carlo, who I admit is the better and more valuable piece, maybe keep Peeke, and replace Carlo with a more well-rounded D-man in the off-season? Someone like a Rasmus Andersson for example, give the group of 6 some more flexibility with their pairings. I even argue a Erik Karlsson because he provides a totally different aspect of the game in terms of possession and puck distribution which the Bruins need more of. Going back to spending more time in the offensive zone and less in the defensive zone.

The overall mix on D isn't working and Carlo might end up the fall guy when it's all said and done. He's nearly at 700 games here that's a lot for a defensive D-man, maybe it's time to try something else with the 2nd pair right-side D position.

 

[Blowfish]

What happened to all the pre 4 nations trade stuff media speculated?????

Bah. Boring.

 

[sarge88]

How many players that matter get traded without getting a player that matters back?

Depends on how early in their development it happens.

In my scenario Swayman was involved and Lysell at that point was probably higher rated than he is now.

Again, the point is identifying and acquiring players before they are at peak value.

Easier said than done, of course, but when it happens is can be franchise altering.

 

[jmon1313]

I think most feel this way. Problem is, they generally go with "high floor", low ceiling talent to play it safe. It results in a prospect pipeline full of projected 4th line and AAAA JAGs

I think I disagree in general. Not just with the bruins, but later picks are super long shots to be impact players. Look at Lysell and Lohrei. 2 high ceiling players they picked. One seems to have hit, and one seems to have missed.

You choice after the top 10 in most drafts seems to be safe 3/4th liners or a tiny % chance at something more. I don't think Sweeney's done a bad job balancing which ones of those he's picked. Outside of the disaster that was 2015, I don't think he's done any better or worse than average. Picked some safe players, picked some high upside players. It's probably time for a new voice, but I certainly don't think Sweeney's drafting has directly been the problem. I personally don't even think this team is that far off, just a bad year from the get go, but it leads to a perfect time to quickly re-tool.

I'd personally move every single draft pick in spots 16-60 for young players and just try to acquire a bunch of darts to throw later in the draft. (In a standard year, obviously there are some years the draft is better than others and that's on the scouts to know and advise on not moving those picks).

 

[JAD]

Depends on how early in their development it happens.

In my scenario Swayman was involved and Lysell at that point was probably higher rated than he is now.

Again, the point is identifying and acquiring players before they are at peak value.

Easier said than done, of course, but when it happens is can be franchise altering.

Rick Middleton and Cam Neely come to mind. So, it can be done, but it's very rare and you need to be somewhat lucky.

 

[sarge88]

Rick Middleton and Cam Neely come to mind. So, it can be done, but it's very rare and you need to be somewhat lucky.

Absolutely.

I guess a secondary point to what I’m getting at is not to be afraid to overpay, provided you believe in the guy.

If you go after the right players, an extra 2nd or prospect isn’t going to cripple the team, even if they end up being quality players.

 

[pucksindeep92]

Jared Mcann being made available with 3 years left on deal @5mil. Plays center and wing. Not an answer to our prayers, but could be a great value acquisition. In a “down year” he is still outpacing everybody except 88 & 63

 

[GordonHowe]

Brandon Carlo is still a very capable player. I think a lot of his struggles this year are due to coaching and then the mistakes kill confidence. I'm not looking to outright get rid of him, nor am I willing to sell him for whatever like a draft pick.

But here is where I am at with him. The Bruins have now tried to have success with him and McAvoy as the locked in No.1 and No.2 right-shot D-men on this team since the 2017 playoffs basically. How many more times do you run that two-some back? Carlo has his limitations, especially in the offensive end. I don't think his overall skill-set is as valuable as it was say 5 years ago. Not to say defending isn't important but spending time now in the offensive end is also very important, I'd argue more so.

Then factor in how his limitations mesh with the 3 left-shot D who are on this team and appear to be here for awhile. For whatever reason him and Lohrei hasn't worked. Him with Zadorov struggle to get the puck out of the zone and haven't worked out as a big shut-down pair. Leaves them with Hampus who is getting older and I'd argue should really be paired with McAvoy out of the 3 left-shot D.

Then factor in your getting a lot of the same characteristics out of Peeke now. Peeke is only 1 min. less on average than Carlo. Is the prudent move to move Carlo, who I admit is the better and more valuable piece, maybe keep Peeke, and replace Carlo with a more well-rounded D-man in the off-season? Someone like a Rasmus Andersson for example, give the group of 6 some more flexibility with their pairings. I even argue a Erik Karlsson because he provides a totally different aspect of the game in terms of possession and puck distribution which the Bruins need more of. Going back to spending more time in the offensive zone and less in the defensive zone.

The overall mix on D isn't working and Carlo might end up the fall guy when it's all said and done. He's nearly at 700 games here that's a lot for a defensive D-man, maybe it's time to try something else with the 2nd pair right-side D position.

Maybe it is.

 

[Dr Hook]

Jared Mcann being made available with 3 years left on deal @5mil. Plays center and wing.

That's the kind of move I would expect Sweeney to make in still trying to get into the playoffs, and hope that he doesn't because what are giving to get here? I don't think the guy comes that cheap. If the team was loading up for a run they were about to try to make, I would get it. I don't know, maybe he is good to have as part of the retool if it is about maximizing the prime years of Pasta and McAvoy.

 

[The don godfather]

I don't see anyone trading the Bruins a young enough # 1 centre for a 1st where the Bruins are picking .Again,I have been wrong plenty of times so we shall see soon.

After that leternaeu pick and what kings got right after him in greentree who is absolutely on fire trade it. I say for zegras.

 

[GordonHowe]

Rick Middleton and Cam Neely come to mind. So, it can be done, but it's very rare and you need to be somewhat lucky.

Very lucky.

 

[Bruin4]

 

[PlayMakers]

What happened to all the pre 4 nations trade stuff media speculated?????

Bah. Boring.

Rantanen/Necas, JT Miller/Chytil, Pettersson/Heinen, Granlund/Ceci, Kuzmenko/Frost/Farrabee... It happened.

 

[Over the volcano]

Jared Mcann being made available with 3 years left on deal @5mil. Plays center and wing. Not an answer to our prayers, but could be a great value acquisition. In a “down year” he is still outpacing everybody except 88 & 63
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For the right price I could see it, certainly fits the bill for what they need even if it's on the edge of what they could realistically afford.

 

[GordonHowe]

After that leternaeu pick and what kings got right after him in greentree who is absolutely on fire trade it. I say for zegras.

Trevor is a talented one trick pony.

Shiny.

Not a team player. Doesn't interest him.

Doesn't interest me.

Patrik Laine (12-6-18- -11).

Pierre Luc Dubois (23-31- 44 +29, actually not bad).

Give me Mark Kastelic any day.

 

[pucksindeep92]

That's the kind of move I would expect Sweeney to make in still trying to get into the playoffs, and hope that he doesn't because what are giving to get here? I don't think the guy comes that cheap. If the team was loading up for a run they were about to try to make, I would get it. I don't know, maybe he is good to have as part of the retool if it is about maximizing the prime years of Pasta and McAvoy.

that was my initial thought, but I’m curious if Carlo could be a good swap. Personally, I’d be down.

Also intrigued by trying to up the anti somehow and also swapping 1st’s in my GM mode fantasy brain. Maybe Carlo, Coyle, Lysell, our 25’ 1st and a 2nd for Mcann and Seattles 1st?

 

[Bruin4]

that was my initial thought, but I’m curious if Carlo could be a good swap. Personally, I’d be down.

Also intrigued by trying to up the anti somehow and also swapping 1st’s in my GM mode fantasy brain. Maybe Carlo, Coyle, Lysell, our 25’ 1st and a 2nd for Mcann and Seattles 1st?

Dam this is Jared McCann right ? I guess if you want Sweeney fired that should do it .

Any openings in your fantasy league?