Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XIX

Ryan Donato would be a decent addition for the top 6 this summer, especially moreso with the Bruins not having a left wing prospect that looks ready to compete in the NHL anytime soon. Still under 30, he's put in the work to improve his skating in recent years and he's among the top of the league in high danger area goals. He's also more durable than Ehlers, who's probably going to get big UFA money.
 
I like it, Chychyrun is a LD I think, I would move Lindholm and add Chychrun, keep Jokiharju
What Lindholm are you talking, because Hampus, must go out and show he is healthy, and I hope he is. I agree think they should take a look at Chychrun, this defense on paper at the beginning of the season, looked terrific, but with injuries and trades it has taken a big hit. Tony De Angelo would have looked a helluva lot better than Mitchell, for the remainder of this season, but I guess he is a no ,no around here.
 
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Ryan Donato would be a decent addition for the top 6 this summer, especially moreso with the Bruins not having a left wing prospect that looks ready to compete in the NHL anytime soon. Still under 30, he's put in the work to improve his skating in recent years and he's among the top of the league in high danger area goals. He's also more durable than Ehlers, who's probably going to get big UFA money.
Please sack the Donato talk.
 
Please sack the Donato talk.

I get it. It is a testament to the absolute weakness of the FA market that you quickly get to Donato being one of the best options. Especially when some of them will resign before FA even starts.

With Ryan, I am not convinced the 50+ point Ryan is the new normal, and that this isn't the blip, and he won't return to being the 30 point player once you give him a multi year deal .

The real point of it is, you aren't likely going to be able to Buy your way out of this situation this summer.
 
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The Bruins have a lot of centers in the Org that they need to decide what to do with moving forward. Zacha, Mittelstadt, Lindholm, Geekie, Poitras, and Minten to me are or will be top 9 centers. The Bruins need to decide if any of these players can slot at wing and improve their LW and RW group this offseason.
 
The Bruins have a lot of centers in the Org that they need to decide what to do with moving forward. Zacha, Mittelstadt, Lindholm, Geekie, Poitras, and Minten to me are or will be top 9 centers. The Bruins need to decide if any of these players can slot at wing and improve their LW and RW group this offseason.
Zacha is still a winger to me who can spot in on faceoffs and some Dzone coverage, Id like to see Zacha - Mittelstadt - Pasta unless you complete a trade or offer sheet this summer.

2nd line until you have a better option probably starts as X - Lindholm - Geekie, I dont know what the long term plan is for Poitras at C or RW but you probably are looking at Minten breaking camp at 3C.

I'm not holding my breath that Lysell and Merk will ever be effective middle six players. And a player like Farinacci might as well be trade bait because they are constantly blocking their own prospects at the NHL level.

Does Duran push for a 4th line spot in camp?

Really need to try and sign Marchand back, but I play him on the 2nd or 3rd line depending on who you get as a winger via FA or trade.

Zacha - Mittelstadt - Pastrnak
X/Geekie/Marchand - Lindholm - X/Geekie
Marchand/Geekie - Minten - Poitras
Khutsnudinov - Kastelic - Duran

Lindholm - McAvoy
Zadorov - Jokiharju
Lohrei - Peeke
 
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Zacha is still a winger to me who can spot in on faceoffs and some Dzone coverage, Id like to see Zacha - Mittelstadt - Pasta unless you complete a trade or offer sheet this summer.

2nd line until you have a better option probably starts as X - Lindholm - Geekie, I dont know what the long term plan is for Poitras at C or RW but you probably are looking at Minten breaking camp at 3C.

I'm not holding my breath that Lysell and Merk will ever be effective middle six players. And a player like Farinacci might as well be trade bait because they are constantly blocking their own prospects at the NHL level.

Does Duran push for a 4th line spot in camp?

Really need to try and sign Marchand back, but I play him on the 2nd or 3rd line depending on who you get as a winger via FA or trade.

Zacha - Mittelstadt - Pastrnak
X/Geekie/Marchand - Lindholm - X/Geekie
Marchand/Geekie - Minten - Poitras
Khutsnudinov - Kastelic - Duran

Lindholm - McAvoy
Zadorov - Jokiharju
Lohrei - Peeke

I'm fine with Marchand back as long as it is on a year to year basis, I have no interest in him at 3 years and 7+ million
 
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I get it. It is a testament to the absolute weakness of the FA market that you quickly get to Donato being one of the best options. Especially when some of them will resign before FA even starts.

With Ryan, I am not convinced the 50+ point Ryan is the new normal, and that this isn't the blip, and he won't return to being the 30 point player once you give him a multi year deal .

The real point of it is, you aren't likely going to be able to Buy your way out of this situation this summer.

Unless the Bruins plan on the top 6 LW'ers next year being Kopeke and Merkulov, money has to be spent there to upgrade the position or a trade has to happen to get one. Right now Leterri, Kopeke, Lauko, and Khusy are the middle 6 wingers. Even if Donato reverts back to a 15 goal 30 point guy, he's still better than all of them.
 
Elias, he's not cooked he is just meh. He has good but not great speed, very little creativity, needs to be tougher. Just does not profile as a 1c...maybe a 2c if we had anyone good and fast beyond Pasta for line 2.

Lindholm plays a pretty gritty game.

He leads all Bruins forwards in blocked shots (67) and is 5th overall in hits (100). He's their best faceoff man, though that's more of a positive defensively than offensively.
 
Unless the Bruins plan on the top 6 LW'ers next year being Kopeke and Merkulov, money has to be spent there to upgrade the position or a trade has to happen to get one. Right now Leterri, Kopeke, Lauko, and Khusy are the middle 6 wingers. Even if Donato reverts back to a 15 goal 30 point guy, he's still better than all of them.

What's wrong with Geekie at LW?
 
Zacha is still a winger to me who can spot in on faceoffs and some Dzone coverage, Id like to see Zacha - Mittelstadt - Pasta unless you complete a trade or offer sheet this summer.

2nd line until you have a better option probably starts as X - Lindholm - Geekie, I dont know what the long term plan is for Poitras at C or RW but you probably are looking at Minten breaking camp at 3C.

I'm not holding my breath that Lysell and Merk will ever be effective middle six players. And a player like Farinacci might as well be trade bait because they are constantly blocking their own prospects at the NHL level.

Does Duran push for a 4th line spot in camp?

Really need to try and sign Marchand back, but I play him on the 2nd or 3rd line depending on who you get as a winger via FA or trade.

Zacha - Mittelstadt - Pastrnak
X/Geekie/Marchand - Lindholm - X/Geekie
Marchand/Geekie - Minten - Poitras
Khutsnudinov - Kastelic - Duran

Lindholm - McAvoy
Zadorov - Jokiharju
Lohrei - Peeke
I'd argue Pasta/Geekie have better chemistry than Pasta/Zacha.
 
What's wrong with Geekie at LW?

I think it would better serve the lineup if he was on the 2nd line as it's main shooter on his natural side and let Pasta play with someone via free agency who's more skilled for that line.

Even if Geekie stays on the top line, Bruins still need two top 6 wingers. It seems they like Mittelstadt at center as opposed to wing, kind of like Zacha. Hopefully he can improve his faceoff numbers like Zacha did.
 
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Best RFA trade/Offer sheet options this summer:

Vilardi
McTavish
Cuylle
Lapierre
Roberston
Holtz

Cuylle Minten Khus would be a great 3rd line. Vilardi would be most excellent and could immediately slot into the 1st line, but obviously costly. He would allow us to stop searching for centers for a while and focus on wing. McTavish would maybe be out of place until he is officially a 1st line center in a couple years. You would probably move Poitras because where could he go in that lineup unless you move Zacha? Look for players that are RFA next year and could get squeezed out like McMichael, whom I would trade Zacha for knowing you bank some extra cap space for a year and upgrade the player.
 
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What Lindholm are you talking, because Hampus, must go out and show he is healthy, and I hope he is. I agree think they should take a look at Chychrun, this defense on paper at the beginning of the season, looked terrific, but with injuries and trades it has taken a big hit. Tony De Angelo would have looked a helluva lot better than Mitchell, for the remainder of this season, but I guess he is a no ,no around here.

DeAngelo could be fired into the sun and my only remark would be "so much is the sun's mass now?"
 
Best RFA trade/Offer sheet options this summer:

Vilardi
McTavish
Cuylle
Lapierre
Roberston
Holtz

Cuylle Minten Khus would be a great 3rd line. Vilardi would be most excellent and could immediately slot into the 1st line, but obviously costly. He would allow us to stop searching for centers for a while and focus on wing. McTavish would maybe be out of place until he is officially a 1st line center in a couple years. You would probably move Poitras because where could he go in that lineup unless you move Zacha? Look for players that are RFA next year and could get squeezed out like McMichael, whom I would trade Zacha for knowing you bank some extra cap space for a year and upgrade the player.

There is almost no chance they are going to offersheet anyone this summer.
Are you going to give Vilardi 7 years/56 million and surrender 4 first round picks? If so Winnepeg has more cap space than Boston might just match anyway.

Are you going 7/56 for McTavish and give up the 4 #1s? Anaheim has more cap space available than Boston, wouldn't they just match?
 
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There is almost no chance they are going to offersheet anyone this summer.
Are you going to give Vilardi 7 years/56 million and surrender 4 first round picks? If so Winnepeg has more cap space than Boston might just match anyway.

Are you going 7/56 for McTavish and give up the 4 #1s? Anaheim has more cap space available than Boston, wouldn't they just match?
lol what? Unless I’m missing something, neither of those contract scenarios you just listed amount to what you say they are costing. It would be a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for 7x8 contract… they would need an AAV north of 11.4mil to cost that many 1sts…

Also, you don’t have to offer sheet, as I mentioned you could just trade for their rights. I don’t love the idea of McTavish for his cost and where he is currently in development vs our rostered centers, but in a couple years sure. Vilardi is worth his cost and would slot into next to Pasta yesterday.
 
lol what? Unless I’m missing something, neither of those contract scenarios you just listed amount to what you say they are costing. It would be a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for 7x8 contract… they would need an AAV north of 11.4mil to cost that many 1sts…

Also, you don’t have to offer sheet, as I mentioned you could just trade for their rights. I don’t love the idea of McTavish for his cost and where he is currently in development vs our rostered centers, but in a couple years sure. Vilardi is worth his cost and would slot into next to Pasta yesterday.

You divide the total dollars on a contract by 5, so if you give someone 7/55, thats 11 million a year from a compensation POV

OK, So why then is Anaheim, and especially Winnipeg trading these guys. Both have a ton of cap space to keep their guys, and as we know they are not going to be able to bring in anyone from outside the organization with the available cap space. But I guess if you are willing to give up your top 10 pick, plus throw in significant pieces on top of it, maybe you can
 
What Lindholm are you talking, because Hampus, must go out and show he is healthy, and I hope he is. I agree think they should take a look at Chychrun, this defense on paper at the beginning of the season, looked terrific, but with injuries and trades it has taken a big hit. Tony De Angelo would have looked a helluva lot better than Mitchell, for the remainder of this season, but I guess he is a no ,no around here.
Yes true Hampus needs to prove he is healthy, if he gets a clean bill of health, he will be easy to move, as team would love a solid #2 type D, the other Lindholm if we can move him without salary retention, I do that as well. I agree , not a fan of Mitchell, would have kept Osterle even over him. I hope they keep Jokiharju and add Chychrun. They also need a couple solid forward additions.
 
No, but his talent level has always been very close to that. Do I suddenly expect him to be the player he was predicted to be a half decade ago? No, but there is a lot there to work with
Pastrnak makes the other players on his line better.
Pastrnak can drive a line ...
Can Zacha?
Can Geekie?
True first line players should be able to carry any line they are on by making those around them better.
 
Pastrnak makes the other players on his line better.
Pastrnak can drive a line ...
Can Zacha?
Can Geekie?
True first line players should be able to carry any line they are on by making those around them better.

OK, how many first line players are their in the NHL then if that is the definition? 20? Maybe 30, it sure as **** isn't 90
 
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You divide the total dollars on a contract by 5, so if you give someone 7/55, thats 11 million a year from a compensation POV

OK, So why then is Anaheim, and especially Winnipeg trading these guys. Both have a ton of cap space to keep their guys, and as we know they are not going to be able to bring in anyone from outside the organization with the available cap space. But I guess if you are willing to give up your top 10 pick, plus throw in significant pieces on top of it, maybe you can
You’re right on the 5 year, I often forget that.

But all I said was these are the best options out there for the RFA route, and my opinions on them. You also can still trade for their rights if their teams don’t want to pay, and that route or offer sheet, you can do it after the draft and not use your potential 2025 top10 pick. But if we end up with the 10th or 11th OA after the lottery, which is unfortunately still feasible at the moment, I’m going to see what I can do with it, because Carter Bear hopefully seeing NHL ice in 3-4 years doesn’t exactly excite me. If we slot up by standing position or trading up, that’s a different story, as McQueen, Desnoyers, and Frondell look plenty more attractive.

If a team is weighing options on those centers, then yes, it’s worth Sweeney exploring a trade. I wouldn’t do McTavish as I’ve mentioned based on the cost, but I would probe on Vilardi if available, and I would put Zachas name up there in a package 10/10 times for his rights before the offer sheet route if it came to that. Unfortunately, McTavish is more likely available if at all than Vilardi. It’s easy to say a team has cap space and will pay that no problem, but Swayman is too easy of a recent example of how negotiations can get weird and the limits can be tested. Mctavish is also behind Leo and Zegras in the pecking order, and Strome is still playing center often, so there are current reasons for them to explore as well.
 

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