Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XIX

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I’d flip a pick for Holtz. Considering we’re playing a bunch of jags in the bottom 6 at the moment. Not a 1st or 2nd.

Let’s see how Jokiharju looks after another month here maybe he’s your top 4 solution. I’m hoping a lesson was learned with the Elias Lindholm signing. Doesn’t sound like it did with some here wanting Boeser. He would be a major mistake imo

Understood - you had just included him with the "first or second and a prospect" list is all.

Even if Joki doesn't work out, with the cap allocation I can't see adding a $6M+ defenseman to this group, especially 30ish+. But who knows I guess.

 

[CellyHard]

Did you think Buffalo was going to let him go? Did we think Rantanen would be shipped out of Colorado? I’m only suggesting not spending JUST to spend on guys like Ehlers and Boeser, who in my opinion are both skilled but softish wingers. With Zacha & E.Lindholm here who play a similar type game, I’d prefer if they signed some players who are FAST, or physical.

IMO you can’t build a team by just signing the biggest name free agents. You need a good blend of skill. I’d like an Alex Tuch type on the wing in the top 6. I’d love a speedy center. Identify the type of player you want and go get one.

What do you mean? Ehlers is fast, one of the fastest forwards in the league.

What a lot of people are missing on Ehlers is he might actually have more to give. He only averages about 15-16 minutes of ice time over the last 3 years.

You give a player of his skill 19-20 minutes a game and with someone like Pasta and on PP1, he could easily live up to his contract.

He’s probably my preferred UFA if I had to pick out of them all but at the same time I could see injury history and playoff performances as a deterrent

 

[DiggityDog]

Did you think Buffalo was going to let him go? Did we think Rantanen would be shipped out of Colorado? I’m only suggesting not spending JUST to spend on guys like Ehlers and Boeser, who in my opinion are both skilled but softish wingers. With Zacha & E.Lindholm here who play a similar type game, I’d prefer if they signed some players who are FAST, or physical.

IMO you can’t build a team by just signing the biggest name free agents. You need a good blend of skill. I’d like an Alex Tuch type on the wing in the top 6. I’d love a speedy center. Identify the type of player you want and go get one.

Respectfully yes, I think most people could see the Eichel relationship with the team deteriorating. I don’t think that move was a shock.

The only thing shocking about Rantanen was the timing of it.

The other thing I would like to point out is neither of these two players reached free agency, which is what the discussion is. These examples just further prove that it is highly unlikely (more like a pipe dream) that a player of this ilk ever reaches market.

You can’t wait for a guy like this to hit market because it just does happen enough to make it viable. Im not saying they should blow their load on this upcoming market to be clear, but they certainly can’t wait around and hope the dream guy becomes available.

 

[GordonHowe]

I enjoy the underdog role. Hey, what the heck. Bond around it.

Truly, it would be hilarious that in the wake of A Season In Hell, this lil' rag tag bunch somehow makes the playoffs.

They have absolutely nothing to lose,

Nikita Zadorov meets moment for underdog Bruins with thumping of Sam Bennett

The Bruins punched back against Sam Bennett and the Panthers on Tuesday — with Nikita Zadorov doling out plenty of punishment in the win.

www.boston.com

 

[pucksindeep92]

I’d avoid Ehlers & Boeser completely. IF, Eichel has interest in coming back to Boston area it’d be great to have the cap space.

I’d be more inclined to take the recent draft picks acquired and attempt to trade them for some young RFA’s who maybe will price themselves off their current teams.
Gabe Vilardi (WPG)
Mason Mctavish (ANA)
Marco Rossi (MIN)
Jack Quinn (BUF)
Alex Holtz (VEG)
Could one of the above shake loose for a 1st + 2nd + prospect package?

I’d look to sign a Gavrikov as a UFA to skate in Carlo’s spot. Shutdown D who could pair well with Lohrei.

Hampus • McAvoy
Lohrei • Gavrikov
Zadarov • Jokiharju (or Peeke)

I’m all for trading for some of these RFAs, but some might cost quite a bit, and end up wishing they have a winger at least like Boeser to pass to because we let Debrusk walk for nothing, after losing Hall, Bertuzzi, and the players that pushed Zacha to winger. Call me crazy, but I just think especially with cap rising so much for the next 2-3 years, there is no point in not adding a winger that puts up more points than everybody on our roster besides Pasta just so you can wait and see if Eichel becomes available? At least you can trade for then if it’s not him going to Free Agency if you didn’t already trade your assets away.

As for trading for RFA, if there is a shot in hell you can get Vilardi, you might need to send Zacha or Mittelstadt back out there in a deal as they will want a center, and we will need the cap space for him and the other empty winger slots. If you don’t trade either of those, you will be giving up even more picks to make it happen, and would officially have too many centers, more so than now. I would do Poitras in a package as he already seems to be pushed out of the pecking order with Mittelstadt, Zacha, Lindholm.

 

[weaponomega]

I’d avoid Ehlers & Boeser completely. IF, Eichel has interest in coming back to Boston area it’d be great to have the cap space.

I’d be more inclined to take the recent draft picks acquired and attempt to trade them for some young RFA’s who maybe will price themselves off their current teams.
Gabe Vilardi (WPG)
Mason Mctavish (ANA)
Marco Rossi (MIN)
Jack Quinn (BUF)
Alex Holtz (VEG)
Could one of the above shake loose for a 1st + 2nd + prospect package?

I’d look to sign a Gavrikov as a UFA to skate in Carlo’s spot. Shutdown D who could pair well with Lohrei.

Hampus • McAvoy
Lohrei • Gavrikov
Zadarov • Jokiharju (or Peeke)

I like this idea. St Louis made a gamble that worked out last off season picking up Holloway and Broberg. I think the key is you have to target players on teams that may be tight against the cap and can't afford to match. Winnipeg might have trouble matching for Vilardi. I'd also add Will Cuylle from the Rangers as well.

 

[PlayMakers]

I like this idea. St Louis made a gamble that worked out last off season picking up Holloway and Broberg. I think the key is you have to target players on teams that may be tight against the cap and can't afford to match. Winnipeg might have trouble matching for Vilardi. I'd also add Will Cuylle from the Rangers as well.

Dallas is the tightest. They have 16 skaters signed and only $5.3m in cap space next year.

The Avalanche are next. They have 18 skaters signed and $8.7m in cap space.

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[Sevendust]

I’d avoid Ehlers & Boeser completely. IF, Eichel has interest in coming back to Boston area it’d be great to have the cap space.

I’d be more inclined to take the recent draft picks acquired and attempt to trade them for some young RFA’s who maybe will price themselves off their current teams.
Gabe Vilardi (WPG)
Mason Mctavish (ANA)
Marco Rossi (MIN)
Jack Quinn (BUF)
Alex Holtz (VEG)
Could one of the above shake loose for a 1st + 2nd + prospect package?

I’d look to sign a Gavrikov as a UFA to skate in Carlo’s spot. Shutdown D who could pair well with Lohrei.

Hampus • McAvoy
Lohrei • Gavrikov
Zadarov • Jokiharju (or Peeke)

This. Package a second with Poitras and get a cost controlled RFA. Stay away from big contracts to Ehlers and Böser. A sneaky good addition could also be Marchment from Dallas who will be in cap hell in the offseason after signing Rantanen. I would also add Coates from Philly and Sillinger from Columbus as targets.

 

[Alan Ryan]

I feel like the problem is when he misses, it's long term. Maybe it was just some bad luck, which does happen


A lot of the top tier UFAs this offseason have me worried. I like the players available, but I would be inclined to pass on the type of contracts that Bennett/Ehlers/Boeser are going to get.

I either go all in on Marner or do what you're suggest and try to find the next Geekie out there.

Find the next Geekie. And more like him.

That’s the Bruins model for success—better than the draft and free agency.

 

[Alan Ryan]

Also:

Poitras sent to Providence​

Kind of lost in the shuffle of bodies over the weekend was Matt Poitras’sassignment to Providence, where he was placed on the Baby Bs roster in order to be eligible for their playoff run.

In two stints with the varsity totaling 33 games, Poitras has a goal and 11 points. He’s had trouble consistently generating offense. That will be a point of emphasis at the AHL level.

“There’s just not a lot of room out there. The ice gets tighter, space becomes less available,” said Bruins coach Joe Sacco. “It’s just something that he’ll continue to work on in his game trying to find and create some space for himself out there. And he did some good things, but right now I think he’s a guy that needs to be playing too, so he’s not going to be here and not play.”

Poitras to Providence is the right move. He’ll be a key player in the playoffs. That should be very good for his development.

 

[weaponomega]

Dallas is the tightest. They have 16 skaters signed and only $5.3m in cap space next year.

The Avalanche are next. They have 18 skaters signed and $8.7m in cap space.

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Bourque is a pending RFA on Dallas maybe some interest?, Colorado doesn't have any pending RFAs I see that would be of interest to the Bruins.

 

[Oates2Neely]

What do you mean? Ehlers is fast, one of the fastest forwards in the league.

What a lot of people are missing on Ehlers is he might actually have more to give. He only averages about 15-16 minutes of ice time over the last 3 years.

You give a player of his skill 19-20 minutes a game and with someone like Pasta and on PP1, he could easily live up to his contract.

He’s probably my preferred UFA if I had to pick out of them all but at the same time I could see injury history and playoff performances as a deterrent

Meh. Ehlers is 29 years old & most likely looking for his last big contract. He’s a 60 point player on average. Career high 64 points in 2016-17 season. At a point per game this season (outlier?).

37 playoff games:
4G 10A 14PTS -9

Like I said I’d pass. Nice player, but not elite. And a complete non factor in the playoffs.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Fwiw Ehlers is a slightly better slightly faster Marco Sturm......me and my /Hindu theory......That's what happens when you get old enough. I really also like Cates btw smart and fairly consistent. It will be interesting what level of ufa they sign.....next year, and see if they wait for Eichel.

 

[Lord Ahriman]

I did a plan the other day that was a bit different.
I had Geekie and Lohrei getting 4.0 each, Lauko 1.25, Khustandinov 1.75, Koepke at 1.5 and Beecher, at 1.0 and I left Jokiharu off.

That comes in at a tick over 80m, giving about 15 of cap space for the XXXX spots.

XXXX- Zacha - Pasta
Geekie/XXXX - Middlestadt - Geekie/XXXX
Khustandinov - Lindholm - Poitras
Lauko - Kastelic - Koepke

McAvoy - Lindholm
Zadorov - Peeke
Lohrei - XXXX

Sway
Korpi

Ehlers for 8.0
Hall/Marchand/Veteran Winger 4.0
Third Pair D 3.0. Or go with Mitchell/Callahan and spend more on the forwards.

Ehlers could be a good addition, but I seriously doubt he will get less than 9 ~ 10M with the cap skyrocketing.

 

[sarge88]

Ehlers could be a good addition, but I seriously doubt he will get less than 9 ~ 10M with the cap skyrocketing.

Probably….the B’s should be able to get there, although not sure if they will.

 

[The don godfather]

Middlestadt looks like the 2nd c we have been looking for since dk left.

 

[Lord Ahriman]

Probably….the B’s should be able to get there, although not sure if they will.

8M I'd be ok, 9 ~ 10M? Yeah, no thanks.

 

[Sheppy]

Middlestadt looks like the 2nd c we have been looking for since dk left.

Lets relax a bit. I know you're an eager beaver most times, but lets wait until we get a larger sample size. People were hyped up from Lindholm after 2 games.

 

[wintersej]

Bet you could shake Mason Marchment out of Dallas with all the guys they have to sign and Rantanen's new contract.

 

[Dr Hook]

Bet you could shake Mason Marchment out of Dallas with all the guys they have to sign and Rantanen's new contract.

I hope the Bruins do.

 

[dredeye]

He asked the question I have always wanted to ask but never did

I feel like I should have left it a mystery lol

 

[The don godfather]

Lets relax a bit. I know you're an eager beaver most times, but lets wait until we get a larger sample size. People were hyped up from Lindholm after 2 games.

26 only has had some decent numbers in the past looks promising.

 

[Sheppy]

26 only has had some decent numbers in the past looks promising.

I know, but you are very excitable.

 

[HumBucker]

Sam Bennett is a guy you add if you already have a true #1 do it all C in front of him. They need to focus on finding that true #1 C over anything imo. The draft is likely the best place to do that with their current position.

Unless they get a #1 pick, by the time that player starts making an impact, Pasta will be pasta his prime.

 

[Fenian24]

I like this idea. St Louis made a gamble that worked out last off season picking up Holloway and Broberg. I think the key is you have to target players on teams that may be tight against the cap and can't afford to match. Winnipeg might have trouble matching for Vilardi. I'd also add Will Cuylle from the Rangers as well.

I would love to see them use an offer sheet on Vilardi. Alex Holtz will be playing with Zach Senyshen and Ryan Spooner in 2-3 years.