Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XII

[dugg133]

Lohrei was the best defender on the ice yesterday and Poitras had the primary assists on the game tying and go ahead goals. Crazy how giving real opportunity to high upside young players and letting them work through some mistakes at the NHL level can pay off.

Go get one of Lysell or Merk now and put them on the third line now.

 

[quietbruinfan]

You don't need to do any homework when drafting in the first round. All you have to do is follow TSN draft board and pick the player that is available at that pick.

It isn't that hard really. Bob Mackenzie 2015 draft TSN board had the following rankings with players that were available to draft. Aside from Zboril which was kind of the consensus mid first round pick look at what was missed MULTIPLE TIMES!

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hmm, I think it is alittle harder than that, but not much. It depends who does the ranking. For example, I always find bobby Mac, and certain people here reliable. Redline report too. NHL central scouting not so much.

 

[kdog82]

hmm, I think it is alittle harder than that, but not much. It depends who does the ranking. for example, I always bobby Mac, and certain people here reliable. Redline report too. NHL central scouting not so much.

The point is to not overthink the pick. And if the pick ends up being a bust, well at least you can say that at the time it was the consensus pick ala Zboril. ZACH SENYSHYN!! Worst pick in the history of the Bruins franchise.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

The point is to not overthink the pick. And if the pick ends up being a bust, well at least you can say that at the time it was the consensus pick ala Zboril. ZACH SENYSHYN!! Worst pick in the history of the Bruins franchise.

Here’s McKenzie in 2016. Should we have followed him there?

 

[Number8]

Panthers are in total cruise mode. Nothing about their play now matters, as long as they don't completely fall off a cliff, and they know it. Like every other Cup winner, they need to manage their energy.

Verhaeghe is a playoff stud (who BTW still has more points this year than any Bruins except Pasta and Marchand), Bennett a playoff pain in the ass. Postseason is where these guys truly make their mark, and where we'll see whether they've still got it or they are indeed a bit busted up. It's very hard to back up, no guarantees. But we won't know much about what shape Florida are truly in until the spring.

Couldn't agree more. Florida is a team with the build, mentality, and approach that is best suited for the old "just get into the playoffs" approach. They are fast, tenacious, nasty, and have goal scoring throughout their lineup.

I've seen some make same -- just get in, anything can happen -- argument for us, but the two teams couldn't be further from one another.

Writing off Florida at this stage is wishful thinking IMO. Writing off the Bruins at this stage is a good way to get Donny to not trade away any first rounders unless it's a trade you just can't say no to.

 

[yazmybaby]

The point is to not overthink the pick. And if the pick ends up being a bust, well at least you can say that at the time it was the consensus pick ala Zboril. ZACH SENYSHYN!! Worst pick in the history of the Bruins franchise.

How an intelligent scout / team whiffs picking Zboril over Chabot when they are playing for the same team is inexcusable.

 

[kdog82]

Here’s McKenzie in 2016. Should we have followed him there?

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McAvoy went exactly where he was supposed to go.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Tomorrow’s game against NJ is huge. They need to show up and come out with 2 points if they want to have any hope of climbing the standings.

Each game from here out is a win win, I just hope they find out soon if they are sellers.

Not only do they have to keep winning they are now relying on help from a lot of teams. Not good

 

[Number8]

Here’s McKenzie in 2016. Should we have followed him there?

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No, a team should certainly not just go with the Bob Mckenzie/TV rankings without thought. However, the Bruins front office was in disarray given that they had just fired the GM. And the Bruins, subsequent to that, have said that it was unwise to put a new GM in that situation without the proper time to prepare.

Of course that last bit should be taken with a huge grain of salt -- Sweeney was no newbie, not by a long shot.

Anyway, given all that. You play it conservative. You try for your big trade and if it doesn't work you go with the consensus.

It's over, but the 2015 draft was a miss. Look at it anyway you want. It was a miss. We all know it now and, to be fair, we all knew it then. The Bruins Board that day was outraged.

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

Each game from here out is a win win, I just hope they find out soon if they are sellers.

Not only do they have to keep winning they are now relying help from a lot of teams. Not good

Columbus had their little run and are terrible on the road , I’m not concerned about them at all . Let’s see how the Canadians do tonight vs Tampa .

 

[NDiesel]

You don't need to do any homework when drafting in the first round. All you have to do is follow TSN draft board and pick the player that is available at that pick.

It isn't that hard really. Bob Mackenzie 2015 draft TSN board had the following rankings with players that were available to draft. Aside from Zboril which was kind of the consensus mid first round pick look at what was missed MULTIPLE TIMES!

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Lol this is hilarious.

That exact same draft board had Zacha Strome and Lawson Crouse ranked ahead of Rantanen, konecny and connor.

It had Hanifin and provorov ahead of Werenski.

How did following the TSN draft board go for those teams? Laziest argument I've ever seen when your claim is proven wrong in the exact same draft

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Columbus had their little run and are terrible on the road , I’m not concerned about them at all . Let’s see how the Canadians do tonight vs Tampa .

The team that are hanging on have tough schedules as well. But, to many things have to go in the B's favor.

Every game is a must win. Good news is there two best Dman should be back soon I hope.

 

[Babajingo]

You don't need to do any homework when drafting in the first round. All you have to do is follow TSN draft board and pick the player that is available at that pick.

It isn't that hard really. Bob Mackenzie 2015 draft TSN board had the following rankings with players that were available to draft. Aside from Zboril which was kind of the consensus mid first round pick look at what was missed MULTIPLE TIMES!

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That was a deep draft. I'm sure there is a cutoff for each draft. You are correct in that it shouldn't be overthunk though. There are other factors. Like needs and interviews and ...

side note: what kills me about that draft was that idiot didn't trade down with the last pick. OK you decide on Senyshen, but you can get him in the 2nd round easy. Meanwhile Connor and Barzal are still on the board. I'm sure there were teams who wouldve given an arm and leg for that pick. Great, thx for rehashing something Ive repressed.

 

[GHFC79]

At this point I would trade Frederic and Korpisalo for draft picks, waive Wahlstrom. They wouldn't do it any different on this team anyway. I would call Merkulov and Lyssell. Bussi and DiPietro deserve to be tested too.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

No, a team should certainly not just go with the Bob Mckenzie/TV rankings without thought. However, the Bruins front office was in disarray given that they had just fired the GM. And the Bruins, subsequent to that, have said that it was unwise to put a new GM in that situation without the proper time to prepare.

Of course that last bit should be taken with a huge grain of salt -- Sweeney was no newbie, not by a long shot.

Anyway, given all that. You play it conservative. You try for your big trade and if it doesn't work you go with the consensus.

It's over, but the 2015 draft was a miss. Look at it anyway you want. It was a miss. We all know it now and, to be fair, we all knew it then. The Bruins Board that day was outraged.

The Bruins board hasn't stopped talking about it for 10 years. Drawing a lesson that you can just use Bob McKenzie's list (or any other) shows the thought process. I can post every other draft and you'll see things like we should have taken Jake Bean instead of McAvoy, like this list showed.

 

[Hookslide]

Columbus had their little run and are terrible on the road , I’m not concerned about them at all . Let’s see how the Canadians do tonight vs Tampa .

Don't worry about what Columbus or the Canadians, best to worry about the Bruins, after the shameful game they put in yesterday. The Ottawa game, was a disgrace, but for that team to come out and play the way they did yesterday against San Jose, should be considered a total break down of what is wrong with this organization. They have always had a reputation after that Ottawa, breakdown of coming out the next game with urgency, and some fire in their game, that was not there yesterday. The ownership is responsible for this breakdown as much as anyone, when they allow their GM to be AWOL, in these times for some money grabbing tournament, but then again Jacobs will get their cut, screw the Bruins fans. Neely and Sweeney should come out and answer the questions many should and want to ask, at least Neely did make an appearance last week. The next blame could easy go on Sacco, not going there yet, but as far as questioning the coaching, maybe look at the staff after Sacco, and start with boy wonder Leach. Players should be held accountable for this mess also, and start with this so-called leadership, when team plays like they did yesterday, after the Ottawa showing, really opens themselves up for criticism. I might add except for Pasta, everyone should be on the block, some more than others, and fans get off this bring the kids up, for two reasons, I personally think they are not as good as the fans perceive them to be, but if I am wrong to you want to bring them into shitty atmosphere.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

That was a deep draft. I'm sure there is a cutoff for each draft. You are correct in that it shouldn't be overthunk though. There are other factors. Like needs and interviews and ...

side note: what kills me about that draft was that idiot didn't trade down with the last pick. OK you decide on Senyshen, but you can get him in the 2nd round easy. Meanwhile Connor and Barzal are still on the board. I'm sure there were teams who wouldve given an arm and leg for that pick. Great, thx for rehashing something Ive repressed.

Edmonton and Chiarelli were about to reach for Senyshyn and blew the pick after our three. He was going to them and that's why we wasted one on him.

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

The team that are hanging on have tough schedules as well. But, to many things have to go in the B's favor.

Every game is a must win. Good news is there two best Dman should be back soon I hope.

All the teams vying for a wildcard spot are flawed . It will likely go down to the last game of the season or so. I’m not too confident in Korpisalo. I wonder which game he will get : Devils/ Senators?

 

[Number8]

The Bruins board hasn't stopped talking about it for 10 years. Drawing a lesson that you can just use Bob McKenzie's list (or any other) shows the thought process. I can post every other draft and you'll see things like we should have taken Jake Bean instead of McAvoy, like this list showed.

Of course, that's the case. And no one in their right mind would tell an NHL team to "just go with Bob M's list" as a strategy.

However for me this revolves around the bullshit story that Sweeney didn't have enough time:

1) that's not true
2) if in some alternate universe it is true, then YES better just go with Bob M's list.

There isn't a fan base in the League or in sports in general who wouldn't still be talking about that draft 10 years later and you know it. I suspect you posted a few WTF's that day. Am I right?

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Here’s McKenzie in 2016. Should we have followed him there?

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So Chychrun instead of McAvoy?

Maybe we should have.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Of course, that's the case. And no one in their right mind would tell an NHL team to "just go with Bob M's list" as a strategy.

However for me this revolves around the bullshit story that Sweeney didn't have enough time:

1) that's not true
2) if in some alternate universe it is true, then YES better just go with Bob M's list.

There isn't a fan base in the League or in sports in general who wouldn't still be talking about that draft 10 years later and you know it. I suspect you posted a few WTF's that day. Am I right?

Taking that draft and the one really bad pick that they made (the other two weren't as good as they could be obviously) and turning that into some mythical draft list that is always right is what has always killed me. McKenzie had Quinn Hughes ranked 8th. Pronman absolutely hated Cale Makar (relatively). Etc etc. And yes, Swayman goes in the 4th and Aho/Hintz/Robertson drop etc etc.

But to continue to hear about it over and over is just tiresome. It's been over a decade.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

All the teams vying for a wildcard spot are flawed . It will likely go down to the last game of the season or so. I’m not too confident in Korpisalo. I wonder which game he will get : Devils/ Senators?

Neither?

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Couldn't agree more. Florida is a team with the build, mentality, and approach that is best suited for the old "just get into the playoffs" approach. They are fast, tenacious, nasty, and have goal scoring throughout their lineup.

I've seen some make same -- just get in, anything can happen -- argument for us, but the two teams couldn't be further from one another.

Writing off Florida at this stage is wishful thinking IMO. Writing off the Bruins at this stage is a good way to get Donny to not trade away any first rounders unless it's a trade you just can't say no to.

Panthers have been to the finals two seasons in a row. That can take a toll on a team, especially one that plays their type of game.

But I wouldn't write them off, either.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Panthers are in total cruise mode. Nothing about their play now matters, as long as they don't completely fall off a cliff, and they know it. Like every other Cup winner, they need to manage their energy.

Verhaeghe is a playoff stud (who BTW still has more points this year than any Bruins except Pasta and Marchand), Bennett a playoff pain in the ass. Postseason is where these guys truly make their mark, and where we'll see whether they've still got it or they are indeed a bit busted up. It's very hard to back up, no guarantees. But we won't know much about what shape Florida are truly in until the spring.

Bennett is playing thru an injury guaranteed.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

No, a team should certainly not just go with the Bob Mckenzie/TV rankings without thought. However, the Bruins front office was in disarray given that they had just fired the GM. And the Bruins, subsequent to that, have said that it was unwise to put a new GM in that situation without the proper time to prepare.

Of course that last bit should be taken with a huge grain of salt -- Sweeney was no newbie, not by a long shot.

Anyway, given all that. You play it conservative. You try for your big trade and if it doesn't work you go with the consensus.

It's over, but the 2015 draft was a miss. Look at it anyway you want. It was a miss. We all know it now and, to be fair, we all knew it then. The Bruins Board that day was outraged.

Sweeney did a great job maneuvering to get those 3 picks. Then thought he was the smartest guy in the league, so confident in what he was doing that he went to the podium with 3 jerseys to make his selections without going back to the draft table. No chance to field offers between picks. Rookie mistake, for sure. Scouting staff should also be "given credit".