Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XII

[quietbruinfan]

He is going to be on his fourth team by age 31. Where there is smoke there is usually fire. I would prefer a different player.

 

[PlayMakers]

Pettersson was my top target, but I'm going to assume we don't have enough to offer there (according to Raycroft, nobody does).

JT Miller is my second target. If it's between us and the Rangers, whoever gets him will win the last wild card spot in the East IMO. I said a month ago the Bruins shouldn't go after anyone over 26 and he's the one guy on the market I'd break that rule for.

Dylan Cozens is my 3rd target. He's the right age, he's got a 30 goal season under his belt, he was a 7th overall pick, he's big, he's fast, he's got some grit, and having watched him a bit lately I think he'd be a perfect fit with Marchand.

 

[Number8]

Yeah the second he gets traded here you will see the patented HF Bruins board fish flopping in all it's beauty.

Look, I’ve despised Taylor Hall. I’ve loved Taylor Hall. I’ve been ambivalent about Taylor Hall.

I’m an ocean of constantly shifting feelings. But it never ever, ever, impacts my judgement. I think objectively and will always change opinions if warranted by something substantive.

For example, did I say earlier today that I’d like to shoot Sam Bennett in the balls with a paintball gun??? Well, yeah. I guess I did.

But I’d also pick him up at Logan if we traded for him and bring him a candy bar to boot.

Weak??? No. No. I’m just an adaptable feeler.

 

[BergyWho37]

He is going to be on his fourth team by age 31. Where there is smoke there is usually fire. I would prefer a different player.

Huh ? Lindholm and Zadorov say Hi and there younger..

I’m not necessarily promoting Miller but that’s only cause of age I think his intense attitude is overblown.

IF the cost isn’t to bad and we keep the few decent prospects we have I’m not against it either but we’d probably lose Poitras Lysell or Lohrei unless they’re just trying to move on from him to end the feud.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

It doesn’t seem like everyone realizes that JT Miller gets to decide where he goes. It’s not about the best offer.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Huh ? Lindholm and Zadorov say Hi and there younger..

I’m not necessarily promoting Miller but that’s only cause of age I think his intense attitude is overblown.

IF the cost isn’t to bad and we keep the few decent prospects we have I’m not against it either but we’d probably lose Poitras Lysell or Lohrei unless they’re just trying to move on from him to end the feud.

Zadorov sucks and gets passed around from team to team because of it. As for Lindholm, he plays a premium position but he is not exactly consistent. Mighty Zad is also rumored to be difficult to coach. Stubborness is my guess.

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

I was quite interested in the Bruins acquiring J.T. Miller at the deadline in 2022. 3 years later, now that he's signed until he's 37? Much more difficult decision...

But, I agree with @PlayMakers and can see both sides of the debate. The Bruins are in a tough spot. The organization is very bare in the top-end Center department and sometimes beggars can't be choosers. One thing's for certain, though -- if the Bruins decide to sell, I do NOT want them acquiring Miller at any cost. He's only worth the gamble if you believe in this team in the short term.

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I can see why some people love the idea and I can see why some people hate the idea. I don't think either side is 'wrong'

 

[Aussie Bruin]

I think Miller is an excellent player. I note the alleged locker room issues but they don't really bother me. I don't think he'll be a good fit with the Bruins though. I don't see him as the type to come in and help turn around a struggling team. I think he'd be much more suited to joining a team that's already a wagon and putting it over the top. Say the Avs wanted a 2C upgrade on Mittelstadt and could somehow make the cap and trade parts work. That's where Miller would be really bang for buck, IMO. Whereas on the Bruins I feel he'd just get frustrated and ineffective if things don't quickly change for the better.

Other thing is, as has been said, JT has a lot of control over where he ends up. What possible reason would he have to choose Boston?

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

Guy wouldn't fit into a locker room where the captain has already been berated by one coach on live TV for lack of effort who later got fired and benched by an interim coach for total lack of discipline and effort.


Thankfully the Bruins didn't listen to public perception or rumors about the kind of teammate and player Nathan Horton was. Most times a change of scenery is all that's needed.

At this point I am very open to trading our 37 year old captain who is constantly in the news for the wrong reasons ( berated by Monty, not getting along with Pasta and being benched by an interim coach) if we could get some younger talent in return.
If Marchand is traded, I would immediately name Kastelic captain.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

See that’s the motte and Bailey argument. “He just wants to win and he plays hard why wouldn’t you want guys like that?”

It’s completely inaccurate. Sweeney doesn’t even need to talk to Elias and Zad - everyone in the league knows the guy is an asshole.

Asshole or not he can play

 

[Number8]

At this point I am very open to trading our 37 year old captain who is constantly in the news for the wrong reasons ( berated by Monty, not getting along with Pasta and being benched by an interim coach) if we could get some younger talent in return.
If Marchand is traded, I would immediately name Kastelic captain.

Preferred opponent. Mama Bear Grizzly vs. HF Boards

Grizzly every day of the week. They only eat their young some of the time.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

At this point I am very open to trading our 37 year old captain who is constantly in the news for the wrong reasons ( berated by Monty, not getting along with Pasta and being benched by an interim coach) if we could get some younger talent in return.
If Marchand is traded, I would immediately name Kastelic captain.

You would name a fourth liner that been in Boston for 3 hours as Captain? good grief

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

You would name a fourth liner that been in Boston for 3 hours as Captain? good grief

In a heartbeat

 

[PlayMakers]

I was quite interested in the Bruins acquiring J.T. Miller at the deadline in 2022. 3 years later, now that he's signed until he's 37? Much more difficult decision...

But, I agree with @PlayMakers and can see both sides of the debate. The Bruins are in a tough spot. The organization is very bare in the top-end Center department and sometimes beggars can't be choosers. One thing's for certain, though -- if the Bruins decide to sell, I do NOT want them acquiring Miller at any cost. He's only worth the gamble if you believe in this team in the short term.

The point about beggars can't be choosers is one that I think is often overlooked. We say this guy isn't a great fit or I'd prefer that guy to this guy, but at the end of the day, 90% of who ends up here is determined by who we can get. Pettersson might be a better player but we can't meet the asking price, maybe Miller won't waive for Boston, Cozens might be a better fit age wise but Buffalo won't trade with us...

 

[PlayMakers]

I think Miller is an excellent player. I note the alleged locker room issues but they don't really bother me. I don't think he'll be a good fit with the Bruins though. I don't see him as the type to come in and help turn around a struggling team. I think he'd be much more suited to joining a team that's already a wagon and putting it over the top. Say the Avs wanted a 2C upgrade on Mittelstadt and could somehow make the cap and trade parts work. That's where Miller would be really bang for buck, IMO. Whereas on the Bruins I feel he'd just get frustrated and ineffective if things don't quickly change for the better.

Other thing is, as has been said, JT has a lot of control over where he ends up. What possible reason would he have to choose Boston?

Seravali talked about Miller to Boston on his show and about how Boston is one of the most attractive cities to live and play in, and how there aren't many better situations in the NHL than to be the center for David Pastrnak.

 

[TCB]

Seravali talked about Miller to Boston on his show and about how Boston is one of the most attractive cities to live and play in, and how there aren't many better situations in the NHL than to be the center for David Pastrnak.

I don’t see to many Centers turning down a chance to go center David Pastrnak

 

[Aussie Bruin]

Seravali talked about Miller to Boston on his show and about how Boston is one of the most attractive cities to live and play in, and how there aren't many better situations in the NHL than to be the center for David Pastrnak.

Nice city, tick, excellent RW, tick. Sure. On the other side, team that is not a contender right now, has some of the worst underlying numbers in the league, seriously lacks offensive depth, has no coach worthy of the title, may already have some locker room issues, more likely than not to be on a downward slide that will take some time to bottom out let alone turn around, high tax state.

Now some of that might be easily fixable, some of it simply may not bother Miller. He may either believe the Bruins can right the ship quickly, or he simply may not care because he can live in a nice suburb in a nice house. But the point is I believe there are more arguments against Boston for a player in his situation than for. Could be wrong, but that's how I see it.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Nice city, tick, excellent RW, tick. Sure. On the other side, team that is not a contender right now, has some of the worst underlying numbers in the league, seriously lacks offensive depth, has no coach worthy of the title, may already have some locker room issues, more likely than not to be on a downward slide that will take some time to bottom out let alone turn around, high tax state.

Now some of that might be easily fixable, some of it simply may not bother Miller. He may either believe the Bruins can right the ship quickly, or he simply may not care because he can live in a nice suburb in a nice house. But the point is I believe there are more arguments against Boston for a player in his situation than for. Could be wrong, but that's how I see it.

He doesn’t seem to care about much of that negative stuff when it comes to wanting to play in New York.

I think the Bruins could make an attractive pitch.

Question to me is: Do the Bruins make that pitch? Do they want to pay what it would take to get him here? Do they want him at all?

 

[Coach Parker]

Here's hoping the Bruins management team has sold Miller on this as the best destination for him and how he was born to be a Bruin. Waives for just Boston, Canucks and Bruins come to an agreement this week.

 

[the negotiator]

Here's hoping the Bruins management team has sold Miller on this as the best destination for him and how he was born to be a Bruin. Waives for just Boston, Canucks and Bruins come to an agreement this week.

One can hope

Canucks ask for Poitras and Lohrei- Bs counter with Coyle and Carlo

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

In a heartbeat

Not a chance in hell

 

[sarge88]

One can hope

Canucks ask for Poitras and Lohrei- Bs counter with Coyle and Carlo

Nucks counter with: Poitras, Carlo or Coyle, Lohrei……what do we do?

(1000%, I have no idea what I’d do)

 

[Aussie Bruin]

He doesn’t seem to care about much of that negative stuff when it comes to wanting to play in New York.

I think the Bruins could make an attractive pitch.

Question to me is: Do the Bruins make that pitch? Do they want to pay what it would take to get him here? Do they want him at all?

The Rangers have their problems, obviously, but I’d be more confident about their ability to turn things around than Boston’s. Putting aside the nitty gritty around the pros and cons of each roster, the basic trajectory of NY had been a team very much on the up which has now hit a stumble, and is trying to find a quick way out of it to get back on track. Verses the Bruins who have had a long period near the top but are now on the slide and trying to avoid the total fall into a period of irrelevancy that almost all top teams face eventually. Just like the Pens. The odds are stacked against them pretty heavily at this point. It may well be they manage a rapid revival, just as the Rangers may well not recover. But on balance I see NY as a more viable option.

End of the day it only matters what Miller himself thinks. And what the Bruins are prepared to offer, as you said. I don’t think he’s the kind of guy who just wants to play out his career in some nice, cruisy place. Far too competitive for that. But does he want to go to a genuine top team that is very much in ‘win now’ mode like the Avs or Devils? Or is he willing to take a chance on a team that’s currently not quite there but has potential? The rumored NY trade of course suggests the latter is at least an option, to a point. But how much risk is he willing to take on, and who with?

I don’t think Miller to Boston is impossible. But it strikes me as being a really long shot. A number of other teams can simply offer him more, and equally importantly other teams have more to offer the Canucks.

 

[Lord Ahriman]

He doesn’t seem to care about much of that negative stuff when it comes to wanting to play in New York.

I think the Bruins could make an attractive pitch.

Question to me is: Do the Bruins make that pitch? Do they want to pay what it would take to get him here? Do they want him at all?

Yeah, that's where I am at. JT would make our top 6 a lot better, but how long is it gonna take for players to turn on Sacco? After last night, not sure it's gonna be that much. That's why I can't see them trading picks (and it would be necessary in this case).

 

[Gordoff]

Why would anyone here have egg on their face if and when Miller gets traded somewhere else?

Yeah that was the wrong expression, no idea why I used it except I had several things going on at the moment.
What I meant was that a lot of people here are going to be either disappointed, surprised or whatever when Miller goes to (possibly NYR) or somewhere else without the Bruins being in the conversation.
Furthermore, I expect that Sweeney is going to go in a completely different direction than what many here anticipated.