Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XII

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*No one* will save this team at the moment.

Connor McDavid is not walking through that door.

Leon Draisaltl is not walking through that door.

Cale Makar is not walking through that door.

Nathan MacKinnon is not walking through that door.

And if Chris Kreider is walking through that door for Trent Frederic and a roster throw in or two, that don't mean jack.

Clearly, whatever else he is, Joe Sacco is not going to be the HC of the BB going forward.

Clearly, at least to some, a fish rots from the head.

SweeNeely must die.

Though like Michael or Jason or Ghostface or Dan Shaughnessy, the malignant entity rarely does so after the first or thirtieth try. To mix metaphors, it ain't hangin' time yet.

Believe it or not I take no glee from the present circumstance. Nor pleasure when, or if, Sweeney and Neely are handed their walking papers.

After a rocky beginning, several costly whiffs, minor card tricks, failure to replace #1C & #2C when everyone and their brother knew it was way past time to do so (biting the Bruins in the ass to this day), and, finally, a losing playoff record that cannot be denied or explained away, Don Sweeney has proven his acumen as a manager.

He will find another gig. And he'll deserve it, for the most part.

Cam will not get a sniff outside of 128. Nor should he.

What comes next, if anything comes next save more & yet more of the same wheel spinning nonsense, I cannot say.

Who to replace these two, hypothetically?

It won't happen, but my pipe dream remains Z and Patrice.

So, again hypothetically, who?

And who to take the coaching reigns?

Opine.

Do.
Post of 2025, except for the Bergy/ Chara mention (whom have zero experience). It’s time for some perspective from outside the boys club.
 
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Elias Lindholm is solid player - he’s a 2C

Something is wrong though with this team

A loss tonight and I’m ready for 7 OA and my focus is RC

Roger McQueen

Legit 1C talent

6-8 in draft gets us our center - there are a few going to be there
He better wear 95. Just think of the TD garden chants of Ka-Chow!
 
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If Sweeney doesn’t make the playoffs I’m sure he will be fired.
Might take a couple DNQs

You are right, why would he do that, and I am not sure a college coach would be my top pick at this time, and I mean no disrespect to Carle. I am risking be tarred and feathered; I am going to put a name out there that I was never a fan of, but always thought he was a pretty good hockey player, but might be someone who help this PP, and I would say not going to cost a lot..........Tony De Angelo, .......OH! am I going to get killed.:popcorn:
He would cost the franchise more than money.
 
He better wear 95. Just think of the TD garden chants of Ka-Chow

McQueen scores on a Bullitt

With the 7th pick of Round 1, The Boston Bruins picked McQueen,
rounding out The Magnificent Seven, of the 2025 Draft.

Blocking a point shot, McQueen made The Getaway, to win the game in OT.

Picking up the puck from The Blob in the crease, McQueen slid the game winner home.

After destroying Mitch Marner with what Leaf media considered a late hit,
McQueen knew he would be An Enemy Of The People, as the series shifts
to Toronto. 😁
 
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*No one* will save this team at the moment.

Connor McDavid is not walking through that door.

Leon Draisaltl is not walking through that door.

Cale Makar is not walking through that door.

Nathan MacKinnon is not walking through that door.

And if Chris Kreider is walking through that door for Trent Frederic and a roster throw in or two, that don't mean jack.

Clearly, whatever else he is, Joe Sacco is not going to be the HC of the BB going forward.

Clearly, at least to some, a fish rots from the head.

SweeNeely must die.

Though like Michael or Jason or Ghostface or Dan Shaughnessy, the malignant entity rarely does so after the first or thirtieth try. To mix metaphors, it ain't hangin' time yet.

Believe it or not I take no glee from the present circumstance. Nor pleasure when, or if, Sweeney and Neely are handed their walking papers.

After a rocky beginning, several costly whiffs, minor card tricks, failure to replace #1C & #2C when everyone and their brother knew it was way past time to do so (biting the Bruins in the ass to this day), and, finally, a losing playoff record that cannot be denied or explained away, Don Sweeney has proven his acumen as a manager.

He will find another gig. And he'll deserve it, for the most part.

Cam will not get a sniff outside of 128. Nor should he.

What comes next, if anything comes next save more & yet more of the same wheel spinning nonsense, I cannot say.

Who to replace these two, hypothetically?

It won't happen, but my pipe dream remains Z and Patrice.

So, again hypothetically, who?

And who to take the coaching reigns?

Opine.

Do.
Dale Hunter GM, Mark Hunter head coach. New assistant coaches, new scouts.
 
I'm not a betting man, but FWIW I wouldn't bet on that.

My position is, or should be, clear.

Unfortunately, love is blind. At least until the ATM 🏧 is jammed.

Then and only then will Charlie rouse from his slumber.

Or something.

Bruins still sitting 6th overall in home attendance % (100.03%). To give that context, San Jose are dead last with 79.49% and then Buffalo at 82.7%. Everyone else is above 90%. Where does attendance need to get to before Delaware North decide to make a change?

On a side note, Pittsburgh sit 27th at 91.01% with Sidney Crosby still part of the franchise. When people talk about trading Sid to a contender, can the Penguins afford to do that? Where does their attendance go without Crosby?
 
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That's what meant as a "for instance", but they have Edvinsson, Kasper, ASP, Danielson, Cossa all as more valuable young chips than the Bruins can offer. Just don't think the Bruins Zacha/Carlo/etc pieces can compete given that so many of the Detroit guys are ready now or just about. I don't even think what the Bruins can offer is Stuart/Sturm/Primeau good. I just don't see a headliner for a deal for EP.
But isn't Vancouver trying to come out of this with an improved team overall?

If Vancouver was a ‘seller’ and wanted prospects, we’d lose that battle easily, but from what I’ve read and heard they want to come out of this without losing their status as a playoff contender. They’re willing to downgrade at 2C (because of the Miller/Pettersson dynamic) in order to upgrade areas of need. They still want to get back a 2C who can play right now, and they want to upgrade their top4, which has been a weakness all season. The rest of the package is value filler.

From that standpoint, it is kind of like the Stuart, Sturm and Primeau deal. And the guys you mentioned from Detroit, with the exception of Edvinsson, aren’t guys playoff teams would trade for.

Carlo and Zacha fill those needs. There would need to be more from a value perspective and I do see what you mean about us lacking a headliner. But who are the roster player headliners from other teams?

Carlo
Zacha
Frederic
1st

Fills all their needs, the cap is close. Who beats it with roster players?
 
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Zacha makes a bit over 60% of what Lindholm makes and Coyle about 68% with his contract up next year. Further Lindholm is responsible for some of the dysfunction.

Not sure what we are arguing about here, to be honest. I am not saying Lindholm has been good, but he is a better hockey player than Charlie Coyle- different skillsets to be sure, but if I had to pick one or the other, I'd take Lindholm every time, and the issue is the contract anyway. Don't miss the point that if Coyle signed his deal today, or over the summer especially, with the rising cap, no way it looks like $5.25 million. Is Lindholm overpaid for what he's bringing, yes, but it wasn't a 'bank breaker' like the post I was responding to said.
 
What I never get is if McAvoy has had the persistent injury that was causing him to play below his usual standard and it just now has gotten bad enough to sideline him, why the hell didn't they shut him down earlier before it got worse so he could heal? This seems to happen frequently. I guess the calculation is that an 80% McAvoy is still better than any replacement they have, not now he is out for who knows how long?

**unless the injuy was received in the last game
 
Bruins still sitting 6th overall in home attendance % (100.03%). To give that context, San Jose are dead last with 79.49% and then Buffalo at 82.7%. Everyone else is above 90%. Where does attendance need to get to before Delaware North decide to make a change?

On a side note, Pittsburgh sit 27th at 91.01% with Sidney Crosby still part of the franchise. When people talk about trading Sid to a contender, can the Penguins afford to do that? Where does their attendance go without Crosby?
Pittsburgh has always been a front running, pink hat fan base. Supposedly the franchise would have collapsed if the league didn't allow them to grossly and obviously tank for Mario. Their average attendance the year before they got Crosby was 11,000 in a 16,000 seat arena.

If Sweeney doesn’t make the playoffs I’m sure he will be fired.
Not me. I wouldn't even put the odds at better than 50%.
 
Not sure what we are arguing about here, to be honest. I am not saying Lindholm has been good, but he is a better hockey player than Charlie Coyle- different skillsets to be sure, but if I had to pick one or the other, I'd take Lindholm every time, and the issue is the contract anyway. Don't miss the point that if Coyle signed his deal today, or over the summer especially, with the rising cap, no way it looks like $5.25 million. Is Lindholm overpaid for what he's bringing, yes, but it wasn't a 'bank breaker' like the post I was responding to said.
IMO it is and if the new CBA allows a buyout not counting to the cap, I am buying him out immediately. Coyle and Zacha gave way more value last year than Lindholm this year and unless this guy is dinged up I buy him out immediately.
 
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But isn't Vancouver trying to come out of this with an improved team overall?

If Vancouver was a ‘seller’ and wanted prospects, we’d lose that battle easily, but from what I’ve read and heard they want to come out of this without losing their status as a playoff contender. They’re willing to downgrade at 2C (because of the Miller/Pettersson dynamic) in order to upgrade areas of need. They still want to get back a 2C who can play right now, and they want to upgrade their top4, which has been a weakness all season. The rest of the package is value filler.

From that standpoint, it is kind of like the Stuart, Sturm and Primeau deal. And the guys you mentioned from Detroit, with the exception of Edvinsson, aren’t guys playoff teams would trade for.

Carlo and Zacha fill those needs. There would need to be more from a value perspective and I do see what you mean about us lacking a headliner. But who are the roster player headliners from other teams?

Carlo
Zacha
Frederic
1st

Fills all their needs, the cap is close. Who beats it with roster players?
I agree that this fills all the Canucks needs and is the price the Bruins would pay for EP40.

Carlo is pinned to Hughes for the next 7 years, Zacha/Coyle take his spot on the 2nd line, Frederic slots into the top six or a dominant third line and then they draft in the Bruins and their own positions which would also be around their pick.

Suddenly, they could have two picks in the first round in a row, a deep top nine and their top four locked down for years to come.
 
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