Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread X

[BruinDust]

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Am I missing something here?

 

[BruinDust]

Dust, tell if I am reading you wrong, but I think what you are saying is Vegas, GM, is better than our GM.

They certainly think more out of the box than Boston's management. With Sweeney it's like clockwork.......spend young assets to rent or buy players at the deadline, then spend your projected cap space on July 1st. Rinse and repeat. Never leave themselves in a position to do anything different like being able to consider trading for a elite prime player if one becomes available for whatever reason.

 

[Hookslide]

Well it was an example, but Utah would have to add to Keller to get EP.

Ok, my fault

 

[bbfan419]

I like Dylan Cozens. He's rumored available. He's scored 30 goals before. He's big, he's fast. Sabres have a history of trading away good young talent.

Decent player, but that contract is too much for him at the moment anyway.

 

[BamBamCam]

Well it was an example, but Utah would have to add to Keller to get EP.

Maybe Vancouver would have to add to keep the cap space

 

[bbfan419]

Lohrei, Coyle and Lysell for Kreider and Lindgren. I substitute Poitras for Lysell if that’s what it takes. We become instant favorites, in fact, we win it all. Disclaimer: I once again have no idea how this fits with the cap. It’s not my job. I’d also like a Trochek to be names later in this trade.

Nope, overpay for two aging players and the Rangers are selling players for minimal return.

 

[wintersej]

I mean you ask Lindholm to go back to the place he left to come to you, it's pretty shitty and causes some issues. Plus he has a full NMC anyway - unless he actually secretly loved it there except he was on Team Miller, you're probably not making that happen.

Even then, I really don't think that's in the conversation for a Franchise center.

I guess it depends on what you view him as. Is he a PPGish guy like he has been in every season of his career but one, or is he actually a franchise center like the one season.

 

[PlayMakers]

Lohrei, Coyle and Lysell for Kreider and Lindgren. I substitute Poitras for Lysell if that’s what it takes. We become instant favorites, in fact, we win it all. Disclaimer: I once again have no idea how this fits with the cap. It’s not my job. I’d also like a Trochek to be names later in this trade.

I don't think Kreider will be expensive. I don't think you appreciate how poorly he's played for the Rangers the last 2 months (4 points in his last 19 games). There are real questions as to whether or not he just went over the "age" cliff. He has back issues too.

Or, he could just be really unhappy and there's a chance he goes back to being a 30 goal scorer after the trade, but I don't think anyone is paying 30 goal scorer prices for Kreider right now. He's a risk and I think the cost to acquire him will reflect that.

 

[PB37]

They certainly think more out of the box than Boston's management. With Sweeney it's like clockwork.......spend young assets to rent or buy players at the deadline, then spend your projected cap space on July 1st. Rinse and repeat. Never leave themselves in a position to do anything different like being able to consider trading for a elite prime player if one becomes available for whatever reason.

But how many elite level players in their prime become available during the season? How many teams that believe themselves to be a contender give themselves this sort of space to potentially make an in-season splash before the trade deadline?

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

I don't think Kreider will be expensive. I don't think you appreciate how poorly he's played for the Rangers the last 2 months (4 points in his last 19 games). There are real questions as to whether or not he just went over the "age" cliff. He has back issues too.

Or, he could just be really unhappy and there's a chance he goes back to being a 30 goal scorer after the trade, but I don't think anyone is paying 30 goal scorer prices for Kreider right now. He's a risk and I think the cost to acquire him will reflect that.

He’s just a couple seasons past scoring 50. This guy is proven, durable and totally legit. I want Sweeney to get him even if he has to overpay in terms of players going the other way. By this I mean prospects, not picks.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

He’s just a couple seasons past scoring 50. This guy is proven, durable and totally legit. I want Sweeney to get him even if he has to overpay in terms of players going the other way. By this I mean prospects, not picks.

Emptying the farm for Chris Kreider is just so bad I don’t even have the strength to argue any more.

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

Nope, overpay for two aging players and the Rangers are selling players for minimal return.

Emptying the farm for Chris Kreider is just so bad I don’t even have the strength to argue any more.

Yeah, because as everyone knows, we are loaded with great prospects that we simply can’t give up.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Yeah, because as everyone knows, we are loaded with great prospects that we simply can’t give up.

One would easily make the leap you are talking about Poitras and Lysell here, no?

 

[Dr Hook]

I don't think Kreider will be expensive. I don't think you appreciate how poorly he's played for the Rangers the last 2 months (4 points in his last 19 games). There are real questions as to whether or not he just went over the "age" cliff. He has back issues too.

Or, he could just be really unhappy and there's a chance he goes back to being a 30 goal scorer after the trade, but I don't think anyone is paying 30 goal scorer prices for Kreider right now. He's a risk and I think the cost to acquire him will reflect that.

It honestly feels like (and maybe a bit unfairly given more recent history) the exact sort of move Sweeney would make at the TDL to ‘load up.’

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

One would easily make the leap you are talking about Poitras and Lysell here, no?

One or the other. Neither one of them strikes me as anything special. I am glad you found strength to argue after you said you had no more.

I would give up Lysell sooner than Poitras, but his name popping up wouldn’t end talks for me personally. Do you think one or both are can’t miss prospects?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I don't think Kreider will be expensive. I don't think you appreciate how poorly he's played for the Rangers the last 2 months (4 points in his last 19 games). There are real questions as to whether or not he just went over the "age" cliff. He has back issues too.

Or, he could just be really unhappy and there's a chance he goes back to being a 30 goal scorer after the trade, but I don't think anyone is paying 30 goal scorer prices for Kreider right now. He's a risk and I think the cost to acquire him will reflect that.

I think his salary is far too prohibitive for even a “here take me for freebies” kind of move. He could go where… like Columbus or Anaheim? I suppose. Let’s see the Rangers start a bidding war between em.

Kreider to Boston makes so much sense in terms of where we’d need him, what we’re missing, and what he’d provide. He makes the same amount of nonsense in terms of his salary, the length of term, the Rangers/Bruins being trading partners, and his awful play this season.

The prospect is exciting/nauseating to me in equal measure.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

One or the other. Neither one of them strikes me as anything special. I am glad you found strength to argue after you said you had no more.

I would give up Lysell sooner than Poitras, but his name popping up wouldn’t end talks for me personally. Do you think one or both are can’t miss prospects?

Yeah I think Poitras is a can’t miss for a middle six center. Lysell no idea yet. I wouldn’t be giving them up plus a pick plus a roster player for Chris Kreider. If I’m doing that I do better.

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

Yeah I think Poitras is a can’t miss for a middle six center. Lysell no idea yet. I wouldn’t be giving them up plus a pick plus a roster player for Chris Kreider. If I’m doing that I do better.

I never said anything about a pick. I’m trying to unload Coyle and add in Lindgren. My trade is Coyle, Lohrei and Lysell for Kreider and Lindgren.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Lindgren might be the one Ranger playing worse than Kreider besides Mika. Have you watched these guys this year?

 

[BruinsJoe]

True, teams have more, better, prospects than we do, but it doesn't mean they're willing to spend them.

Carlo, Poitras, 1st for Petterson.

Would that not be a strong offer? Could it be beat? Sure. Likely to be beat? I don't know.

In terms of cap space. The Bruins have been banking space all season. Nobody here or online knows the real number. Maybe Dom, because he tracks it, but I'd bet the Bruins have $3m in deadline money already banked. Add in another $2-3m for money to be banked between now and then they could have $5-6m in deadline space on deadline day. When they started the season, Puckpedia said we'd have $6.8m in deadline space based on that original roster. Call ups and downs change all that but the point is, it was/is possible. We'd be sending out $4.1m for Carlo, $2.3 to move out Frederic in another deal and we're in the neighborhood. That's around $6.4m out and $5-6m in banked space. That ought to do it.

We'd have a gaping hole at 2RD. Maybe they get a vet making $1m in the Frederic deal to be a stop gap until the off-season when they can go shopping for a replacement.

I think Bs will need to add and Vancouver has been high on Lysell...

 

[Over the volcano]

Lindgren might be the one Ranger playing worse than Kreider besides Mika. Have you watched these guys this year?

Buy low!

 

[22Brad Park]

I'm all for hoping other GMs make horrible mistakes but Rutherford isn't Mike Grier and Chuck Fletcher doesn't have a job. Rutherford won't trade EP for a couple of nickels. There are 100 other trades out there that start with two better pieces than that for a top tier Franchise center.

Montreal would be the team on him if Canucks wanted to trade him.They have the pieces to entice them and currently about 7.5 mil in cap space.I see no avenue for Bruins but who knows.

Buy low!

Love him back here.

 

[PlayMakers]

I think his salary is far too prohibitive for even a “here take me for freebies” kind of move. He could go where… like Columbus or Anaheim? I suppose. Let’s see the Rangers start a bidding war between em.

Kreider to Boston makes so much sense in terms of where we’d need him, what we’re missing, and what he’d provide. He makes the same amount of nonsense in terms of his salary, the length of term, the Rangers/Bruins being trading partners, and his awful play this season.

The prospect is exciting/nauseating to me in equal measure.

He has a 15 team NTC too, so even if Columbus and Anaheim were bidding for him he'd have to agree to go to a team in full rebuild.

If we go the Kreider route, I'd like to think it's a situation similar to when we acquired Taylor Hall.

 

[TCB]

I never said anything about a pick. I’m trying to unload Coyle and add in Lindgren. My trade is Coyle, Lohrei and Lysell for Kreider and Lindgren.

Leave Lohrei out of it and it looks good

 

[Over the volcano]

I think his salary is far too prohibitive for even a “here take me for freebies” kind of move. He could go where… like Columbus or Anaheim? I suppose. Let’s see the Rangers start a bidding war between em.

Kreider to Boston makes so much sense in terms of where we’d need him, what we’re missing, and what he’d provide. He makes the same amount of nonsense in terms of his salary, the length of term, the Rangers/Bruins being trading partners, and his awful play this season.

The prospect is exciting/nauseating to me in equal measure.

Coyle and Carlo for Kreider and Lindgren

Money's close but Lindgren's coming up on UFA.