Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread VIII

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I like Trouba the player but not his contract - 8 mill a season is rough.

I also like Kreider the player but not his age - there's some buyer beware there.

I think the picture will be clearer for both teams as it gets closer to the trade deadline for which direction they want to go. I would hate to see the Bruins get more expensive, older players and then still not make the playoffs.
 

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Frederic, Coyle, Carlo and our first for Kreider and Trouba? I have no idea how this works cap-wise so I await the insults.

The pick will be wasted on some type of foolish reach anyways. Kreider and Trouba would add leadership and toughness besides their unquestionable talent. Freddy is never going to become our Kreider. Again, I’m sure I’ll be pelted with insults, but just tossing it out there.
 

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I'm on the fence re: Kreider. I've always been a big fan of the player. Certainly his speed would help, but is he what the Bruins really need? What this forward group lacks is another forward who can drive play and score from range to open up opposition defensive schemes. That's not Kreider, who is a complimentary player with his skill-set and style. Just adds another forward who needs to be close to the net to produce. Would likely help the Bruins PP however. Spending valued assets to bring in Kreider seems like a continuation of the path that lead the Bruins to the league's worst offense.

And ask yourself, what is it the Rangers are seeing that would want to make them move on from him? Zero assists in a quarter season is concerning despite the goal numbers.
 

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Frederic, Coyle, Carlo and our first for Kreider and Trouba? I have no idea how this works cap-wise so I await the insults.

The pick will be wasted on some type of foolish reach anyways. Kreider and Trouba would add leadership and toughness besides their unquestionable talent. Freddy is never going to become our Kreider. Again, I’m sure I’ll be pelted with insults, but just tossing it out there.
Frederic, Coyle, McAvoy and no first.
 
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people are concerned with mortgaging the future, bruins actually have one of the younger rosters in the league (younger still when poitras was on the team AND currently have no future as it stands. So what future are we mortgaging?

unless your getting rid of the Pastas, McAvoys and Swaymans, there is no rebuild.
 
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Frederic, Coyle, Carlo and our first for Kreider and Trouba? I have no idea how this works cap-wise so I await the insults.

The pick will be wasted on some type of foolish reach anyways. Kreider and Trouba would add leadership and toughness besides their unquestionable talent. Freddy is never going to become our Kreider. Again, I’m sure I’ll be pelted with insults, but just tossing it out there.
Add Cuylle and I do it. Would like to add Lysell instead of the first but wouldn't let that hold up trade. They add grit, goal scoring and leadership and get rid of playoff underachieving Coyle.
 

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Add Cuylle and I do it. Would like to add Lysell instead of the first but wouldn't let that hold up trade. They add grit, goal scoring and leadership and get rid of playoff underachieving Coyle.

I don't think they'd trade Cuyelle for Carlo+Frederic+Coyle+1st rounder. 5th in the league in hits and almost a PPG. The only comparision to Cuyelle thus far this season is Brady Tkachuk in terms of production + hits and Cuyelle is younger and cheaper.
 

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By God thats Don Sweeney's music!
Age aside he is the guy that can put the puck in the net, that the Bruins don't have, if his contract was longer or higher, I too would stay away, but it is livable.
 

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Most of the surprises for the Bruins this season have been of the Door No. 3 variety, the one in “Let’s Make a Deal” where the exuberant contestant, on the verge of striking it rich (“A new car!”), sees the dream disappear in that instant Door No. 3 reveals a live donkey munching on a bale of hay.

Never a good day when that luxury Maserati ends up being Old McDonald’s broken-down mule.

Mason Lohrei has been the exception, one of the few Bruins, along with goalie Joonas Korpisalo, to outperform expectations.

The 23-year-old defenseman picked up his fourth assist in five games Saturday night’s 2-1 win in Detroit, and began this week as — hold on, analytics geeks — the Bruins’ highest-producing defenseman with a line of 1-7—8.

Granted, that production isn’t about to catapult Lohrei into the Norris Trophy discussion. What’s significant about it, though, is that it’s a tick better than Bruins franchise backliner Charlie McAvoy (3-4—7) as well as Hampus Lindholm (3-4—7), the latter of whom remains on the injured reserved list after taking a shot off the knee Nov. 12.

Worth noting, too, that Lohrei has produced while averaging 17:41 of ice time, ranking him fifth among Boston blue liners. All of which points to the likelihood of Lohrei getting more time, more looks, and, for a team desperate to generate offensive mojo, ideally more points.

“Skating, for me, is No. 1 with Mason,” said interim coach Joe Sacco. “When he gets his feet moving, whether it’s in our neutral zone, offense, supporting the attack, even defensively, when he’s making his rush reads, getting inside the dots, he’s got his feet moving. He’s just a much more effective player. I think his game follows from his feet.”

Hall of Fame goalie Gerry Cheevers, who was the Bruins bench boss for 4½ seasons at the start of the ‘80s, constantly preached, “Everything in the game comes from skating.”

Exhibit A: Lohrei, whose long and fluid skating stride, particularly in full flight, shows flashes of Scott Niedermayer’s style. Niedermayer, his name on the Stanley Cup four times, was smaller and more offensively minded (740 career points) than Lohrei.

“He’s got the skill level to make plays at the offensive blue line,” noted Sacco. “He’s got the skill level to execute on our breakouts. Like any player, but I find especially with him, when he’s moving his feet he’s a much more effective player.

“That’s a challenge with young guys. It’s a hard league. You’re getting pressured a lot. You want to stand still when making plays sometimes. But I think when he’s thinking about [skating], he’s much more of an impact player.”

McAvoy remains the lone point man on the No. 1 power-play unit — a job he had lost to Lindholm going into the game in which Lindholm was injured. The No. 1 unit, under Jim Montgomery’s charge, typically had the Bruins employing two defensemen rather than the one point man. Saturday in Detroit, where Lohrei picked up an assist on Justin Brazeau’s power-play goal, Sacco utilized Lohrei as the defenseman/point man on the unit.

Lohrei played along when a reporter kidded him after Monday’s workout that his uptick in production was a sure sign that he was turning into a puck hog.

“Uh,” he said, his smile broadening, “wouldn’t that be if I was only scoring goals?”

In an era when defensemen, especially those with limited games on the résumé, often are reluctant to risk playing with pace and boldness, Lohrei looks like he relishes the chance to lift his game.




“He has to stay within the framework of the team — especially right now, where we’re trying to get back to a team identity more consistently,” mused Sacco. “But also, you don’t want to take away his offensive side.

“Yeah, we’d like to be scoring more, and I think he’s going to help us do that. If he can focus on the things he needs to control, he’s going to help our team be much more impactful.”
 

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Frederic, Coyle, Carlo and our first for Kreider and Trouba? I have no idea how this works cap-wise so I await the insults.

The pick will be wasted on some type of foolish reach anyways. Kreider and Trouba would add leadership and toughness besides their unquestionable talent. Freddy is never going to become our Kreider. Again, I’m sure I’ll be pelted with insults, but just tossing it out there.
Too much from the Bruins.

I like Trouba the player but not his contract - 8 mill a season is rough.

I also like Kreider the player but not his age - there's some buyer beware there.

I think the picture will be clearer for both teams as it gets closer to the trade deadline for which direction they want to go. I would hate to see the Bruins get more expensive, older players and then still not make the playoffs.
But are you one of the E. Lindholm, I love it supporters, for 7 years at close to 8 mil ?
 

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I'm on the fence re: Kreider. I've always been a big fan of the player. Certainly his speed would help, but is he what the Bruins really need? What this forward group lacks is another forward who can drive play and score from range to open up opposition defensive schemes. That's not Kreider, who is a complimentary player with his skill-set and style. Just adds another forward who needs to be close to the net to produce. Would likely help the Bruins PP however. Spending valued assets to bring in Kreider seems like a continuation of the path that lead the Bruins to the league's worst offense.

And ask yourself, what is it the Rangers are seeing that would want to make them move on from him? Zero assists in a quarter season is concerning despite the goal numbers.

Wouldn't call a guy that put up 52 goals two seasons ago a complimentary player.

He's also put up 24 goals in 43 games in the playoffs the last 3 seasons.

And as we know, no matter how bad ownership, management and coaching is, the Bruins are entitled to a playoff spot.
 
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BruinDust

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Wouldn't call a guy that put up 52 goals two seasons ago a complimentary player.

He's also put up 24 goals in 43 games in the playoffs the last 3 seasons.

And as we know, no matter how bad ownership, management and coaching is, the Bruins are entitled to a playoff spot.

It's more of a style thing. Most (if not all) net front guys are. He's just one of (if not the best) net front goal scorer in the game or at least he was IMO. It's not meant to be a knock, I'm just not sure if that is where Boston should invest assets when they have bigger needs up front. I've always been a big fan of Kreider in general.
 

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It's more of a style thing. Most (if not all) net front guys are. He's just one of (if not the best) net front goal scorer in the game or at least he was IMO. It's not meant to be a knock, I'm just not sure if that is where Boston should invest assets when they have bigger needs up front. I've always been a big fan of Kreider in general.
Most net front guys can't skate like Kreider, though.

Bruins need goal scoring. He brings it.

That said, I think the price for him would be too much.
 
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PB37

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Too much from the Bruins.


But are you one of the E. Lindholm, I love it supporters, for 7 years at close to 8 mil ?

Yes, I like Lindholm, who only cost the team money to aquire and not assets that would be hard to justify moving for older, questionable contracts.
 

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I'm on the fence re: Kreider. I've always been a big fan of the player. Certainly his speed would help, but is he what the Bruins really need? What this forward group lacks is another forward who can drive play and score from range to open up opposition defensive schemes. That's not Kreider, who is a complimentary player with his skill-set and style. Just adds another forward who needs to be close to the net to produce. Would likely help the Bruins PP however. Spending valued assets to bring in Kreider seems like a continuation of the path that lead the Bruins to the league's worst offense.

And ask yourself, what is it the Rangers are seeing that would want to make them move on from him? Zero assists in a quarter season is concerning despite the goal numbers.
Personally, I wouldn't mind Kreider at the Right Price and salary retained. He's a veteran that knows what it takes. And no, I would not expect him to be a long-term solution, but he would add a slightly different element to the Bruins game, and the contract is only for about 2.5 years. Hell, I would rather him going to the dirty areas in front of the net then Geekie doing flybys and staying on the perimeter. His age may be becoming a factor, but if used properly he could be helpful while Bruins management seeks other more long term alternatives for the top six. Sweeney has to at least inquire and kick the tires on him and do their due diligence.
Again, like any acquisition it would all be a matter of cost.
 

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Yes, I like Lindholm, who only cost the team money to aquire and not assets that would be hard to justify moving for older, questionable contracts.
That was a horrible signing that will have a negative effect on this team as that contract ages, I might add it does not help this team now, too much of a cap hit for the production, the team is receiving.
 

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Personally, I wouldn't mind Kreider at the Right Price and salary retained. He's a veteran that knows what it takes. And no, I would not expect him to be a long-term solution, but he would add a slightly different element to the Bruins game, and the contract is only for about 2.5 years. Hell, I would rather him going to the dirty areas in front of the net then Geekie doing flybys and staying on the perimeter. His age may be becoming a factor, but if used properly he could be helpful while Bruins management seeks other more long term alternatives for the top six. Sweeney has to at least inquire and kick the tires on him and do their due diligence.
Again, like any acquisition it would all be a matter of cost.

That's really what it boils down to. It's not like Kreider wouldn't help this team somewhat.
 

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Frederic, Coyle, Carlo and our first for Kreider and Trouba? I have no idea how this works cap-wise so I await the insults.

The pick will be wasted on some type of foolish reach anyways. Kreider and Trouba would add leadership and toughness besides their unquestionable talent. Freddy is never going to become our Kreider. Again, I’m sure I’ll be pelted with insults, but just tossing it out there.
Trouba is a terrible defenseman hitting aside.

Frederic and a 1st is about the highest the Bruins should bid and Frederic alone could be enough if NYR extends him (and regrets it).
 

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