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Prospect Info: '24-'25 Prospects Thread: Generation Z

DesertedPenguin said:
I think the reality is that while the organization has made strides in the quality of talent in the minors, it still has a ways to go.

Six of WBS' top ten points leaders were 23-and-under. Two of its defensemen in the AHL playoffs were 20 and 18 - and they were better than 28-year-old Sebastian Aho and 30-year-old Dan Renouf.

Per EliteProspects, WBS had the ninth youngest team in the AHL this year. Many of its core players were in their first year of North American professional hockey.

This was progress, but there is work to do.
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Agreed. I mean really, this is a first year we've been able to collect the players needed to build decent AHL and ECHL teams. But being that both are minor development league teams, we have to keep in mind what the overall goals are. I anticipate next year being better. No doubt Murashov will be the #1 in WBS. While Blomqvist, Larsson, and Gauthier are good, I have little doubt that Murashov is gonna steal that job, then the leftovers will be fought for. Would help if we were able to ditch one of Jars or Neds. I wouldn't hate Larsson backing up Neds or Jars while Blom and Murs continue to marinate in the AHL.

Defense should be better too as we should be able to graduate Pieniniemi, Harding, Brunicke, and likely Pietila to the AHL. I mean, that's a pretty big boost over what they had this year. Forward is a bit different and problematic as they will likely graduate their top dogs and I don't think we have any studs coming to help. But also, we have a couple other really good prospects that aren't going to be immediate products of the ECHL/AHL system - we have Ilyin in the KHL and Fernstrom in the Swedish league, we have a couple guys in Finland...so we are getting development elsewhere as well.

Might be interesting to see how the bottom 6 shakes out next year. WBS could easily see Poulin, Pono, Bemstrom, Avery, Broz, and Puustinen back. McG and Koivunen are going to the NHL. But there are some wildcards like Hallander, Cooper Foster, Chase Yoder, and whoever we can pick up in FA.
 
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DesertedPenguin said:
I think the reality is that while the organization has made strides in the quality of talent in the minors, it still has a ways to go.

Six of WBS' top ten points leaders were 23-and-under. Two of its defensemen in the AHL playoffs were 20 and 18 - and they were better than 28-year-old Sebastian Aho and 30-year-old Dan Renouf.

Per EliteProspects, WBS had the ninth youngest team in the AHL this year. Many of its core players were in their first year of North American professional hockey.

This was progress, but there is work to do.
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I think the reality is that nobody in WBS is a prospect worth building around and Dubas has massive work to do if he wishes to "haul butt" or whatever.
 
I don't think anyone has suggested that any of the current prospects are expected to be franchise pieces.

That does not mean they are worthless, however.

Also, you don't need franchise pieces to win in the AHL. You do need some pro experience and deeper talent, however, and WBS is still building towards that.
 
Pens have a lot of nice pieces to develop. Three years ago Poulin and maybe Legare were the best prospects. Petts in a trade was the only real addition. So from that position, Dubas has added a significant number of quality prospects with the help of trades and picks. Dubas has a couple more years of adding with higher picks this year and potentially a lottery selection next year. Yes last couple years have not been fun. But take 15 years of cups and being one of the chalk teams year in year out and I take that. Now do I think trading away so much was the best idea? No as most under Shero and GMJR really left thing bare in the pipeline. But lets see what the rebuild looks like in a couple years.
 
I will fully admit I didn’t care about Mears either way and kinda was fine with him gone but with hindsight he was better than Getzoff.

I like Colby but the broadcast is low key bad now. Corporate and bland.
 


If you believe Burke we were one pick away from grabbing Knies instead of Broz. Unfortunate if true.

I have a feeling the Pens got cucked in a similar way with wanting Benson and ending up with Yager. That one still works out fine if McGroarty pans out though.
 
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I didn't enjoy Errey but he was fine at his job. Steigy sucked shit. Jack Edwards levels of terrible.

I don't like the present (or recent) announcers either, but I'd rather boring that I can easily tune out than aggressively annoying and grating like Steigy.
 
HandshakeLine said:
Phil Bourque is possibly the worst announcer I've heard for a professional sports team in my lifetime and I spent 12 years in Chicago.
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It's clear by this thread that everyone has different tastes. I liked Stagy and Errey as people, but hated them on games. Staggy was much better with Mike Lange back in the day.

Surprised people don't like Bourque. He's the only one I like listening to. Mostly because he doesn't sugar coat things and calls players out on the radio. Something no other commentator does.
 
chrisp200 said:
It's clear by this thread that everyone has different tastes. I liked Stagy and Errey as people, but hated them on games. Staggy was much better with Mike Lange back in the day.

Surprised people don't like Bourque. He's the only one I like listening to. Mostly because he doesn't sugar coat things and calls players out on the radio. Something no other commentator does.
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Of course people have different tastes. Why would you be surpised by that?

I don't need some punch drunk 4th liner to call out the players (and by that you probably just mean Malkin I'm guessing because Bourque can't really form a sentance much anymore and just sort of defaults to Malkin), I can do that by myself. I am a grown boy.

What would be really neat is if a Pens announcer also called out coaches as well as players, but that's apparently too revolutionary for this world of ours.
 
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