2026 Winter Olympics (no NHL players.) What format would you prefer?

Assuming there are no NHL players what format would you like to see?

  • Status quo (best players available in Europe/KHL)

    Votes: 58 50.4%
  • Amateur players only

    Votes: 13 11.3%
  • U20

    Votes: 20 17.4%
  • U18

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Go back to having national teams

    Votes: 16 13.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 7 6.1%

  • Total voters
    115
Eh.. I don’t watch it. My point is : I want an international tournament with a little bit of decency. All you guys have tunnel vision, thinking only way to make it happen is at the Olympics. Olympics are not meant to be for pro athletes. First mistake. Second, I know its contentious atm, but IIHF could organize the World Cup.

World Cup in September every 4 years + Olympics with amateurs. Boom.

Now, if you want, keep your annual tournament of C teams. Enjoy it. But don’t go thinking it has any kind of value to determine which nation is the best.



Doesn’t bother me at all. Don’t put words in my mouth. I just don’t see the point of having a World Cup PLUS World Championship. If there’s no World Cup, keep the World Championship. Better than nothing I guess.
If you don't watch it then there is no point you have, you are only trolling.

For someone who isn't bothered by the World Championships, you sure do seem bothered. Why do you care if you don't watch.
 
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What do you mean by "no NHL players"? :mad:

Enough of this annual & quadrennial sabotage of international hockey by the selfish NHL!

The NHL should pause its season every February for 2 weeks, to allow best-on-best World Championships or Olympics to take place. :thumbu:

The same strict rules should apply in hockey as in international soccer: no single country (or pair of countries) may dare sabotage top-level international tournaments.

And hockey is minuscule in terms of both global stature and $$$, compared to soccer, so don't give me that bull**** again about the NHL owners' money being more important than the Olympics or even the World Championships.

If soccer's millionaire and billionaire club owners can defer to international tournament scheduling, so should the NHL owners.

The NHL should just put up and shut up. :thumbu:

Other than that, the current Olympic (and World Championships) playing format is OK. But I voted "Other", given that the poll is built on a false premise. :eyeroll:
Why is it so difficult for some fans to understand that the NHL is a business and is going to do what they feel is best for them? The NHL has seen no benefit to Olympic participation and it has been discussed ad-nauseum on here. Saying things like, "NHL should just shut down as the Olympics is bigger than the NHL.." and other similar arguments are cute, however it doesnt mean it will happen.

As far as soccer, it is a bit different. The talent for soccer is spread out throughout the world and is spread out amongst the different countries to make the world up actually competitive. In hockey, ~95% of the top talent in the world plays in one league, therefore they DO get to dictate things to the IIHF.
 
Why is it so difficult for some fans to understand that the NHL is a business and is going to do what they feel is best for them? The NHL has seen no benefit to Olympic participation and it has been discussed ad-nauseum on here. Saying things like, "NHL should just shut down as the Olympics is bigger than the NHL.." and other similar arguments are cute, however it doesnt mean it will happen.

As far as soccer, it is a bit different. The talent for soccer is spread out throughout the world and is spread out amongst the different countries to make the world up actually competitive. In hockey, ~95% of the top talent in the world plays in one league, therefore they DO get to dictate things to the IIHF.
Nailed it. The NHL has every right to tell the Olympics to pound sand (& should do so). It's a meaningless exhibition anyway & doesn't provide any value to the league.
 
Why is it so difficult for some fans to understand that the NHL is a business and is going to do what they feel is best for them?

Why is it so difficult for some North American fans to understand that such a selfish "business first" attitude, sabotaging top-level international hockey tournaments for decades, in favor of a regional league, is despicable and rightly condemned around the world?
 
Why is it so difficult for some North American fans to understand that such a selfish "business first" attitude, sabotaging top-level international hockey tournaments for decades, in favor of a regional league, is despicable and rightly condemned around the world?
I understand many fans, if not most fans in Europe are VERY into the Interenational events, even more than the Professional leagues. However, the thread was asking about which you would prefer assuming no NHLers. We can argue back and forth all day about whether the NHL should go (and it has been done on here for years). However, people on a message board whining about the NHL not shutting down is not going to change things. When you do what you did, you are literally an old man yelling at the clouds.

I am confused though about why it is wrong for a BUSINESS to have a "business first attitude"? I would love to see a consistent best-on-best International Tourney. My first choice would be a World Cup of Hockey in September every 4 years. Whether it is the IIHF, the NHL, or both running it doesn't matter to me. if they go go the Olympics, fine. Although, I would prefer for the NHL to not shut down mid-season. If you gave me a choice between the Rangers winning the Cup or Team USA winning Gold at the Olympics, I would take the Rangers winning the Cup every time.
 
If you gave me a choice between the Rangers winning the Cup or Team USA winning Gold at the Olympics, I would take the Rangers winning the Cup every time.

And the Europeans vice versa, because they couldn't care less about an American city winning the cup in a regional league on a different continent. So what?

Top-level international events should always have preference over regional leagues.

Insisting that the regional league is more important is only a testament to selfishness, arrogance and ignorance.

Surprising though it may be, this universe does not revolve around the business dealings of American and Canadian millionaires and billionaires, to which the entire rest of the world is supposed to bow down and defer. :eviltongu
 
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And the Europeans vice versa, because they couldn't care less about an American city winning the cup in a regional league on a different continent. So what?

Top-level international events should always have preference over regional leagues.

Insisting that the regional league is more important is only a testament to selfishness, arrogance and ignorance.

Surprising though it may be, this universe does not revolve around the business dealings of American and Canadian millionaires and billionaires, to which the entire rest of the world is supposed to bow down and defer. :eviltongu
In what league do 90-95% of the best players play? Just a culture difference. International hockey is not nearly as big of a deal here as it is in Europe. You saying "Top-level international events should always have preference over regional leagues" is the same thing as Americans saying the opposite. Neither is right or wrong. It was different when Eastern Europe was under communism. The political propaganda machine did a great job of pitching the "US vs THEM" or "Our way of life vs Their way of life" hype. I can remember as a kid watching the Olympics in 84 and 88 ( was too young for 80) and the Canada Cup in 87 (by 91 it attitude had changed). Always rooted for the US and then Canada, Sweden, Finland, West Germany over USSR, East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia. Then, communism fell, more European players came to the NHL and the international game no longer has that "us vs them" feel. Also do not understand how having more interest in the NHL in lieu of International play is a sign of "ignorance, selfishness, and arrogance".

BUT enough of this, as THIS thread asked which you would prefer assuming no NHLers. Me? I would like to see everyone go back to "National Teams". For the US, could be a mix of vets not in the NHL who would rather play for the National team and better players from the USNTDP.
 
And the Europeans vice versa, because they couldn't care less about an American city winning the cup in a regional league on a different continent. So what?

Top-level international events should always have preference over regional leagues.

Insisting that the regional league is more important is only a testament to selfishness, arrogance and ignorance.

Surprising though it may be, this universe does not revolve around the business dealings of American and Canadian millionaires and billionaires, to which the entire rest of the world is supposed to bow down and defer. :eviltongu


You don't have to bow down and defer but at some point you are going to have to become comfortable with acceptance of the situation because the power to dictate and impose your will doesn't exist in europewhen it comes to this particular sport, it exists over here with the money and market.

Why should what Europe wants trump everything when they simply don't have the pull?

No one owes you anything regardless of what your sporting culture is, Europe does not run all of hockey.

The NHL calls the tune until otherwise, of course, your players can all just stay in Europe and you can have all your best players playing in the olympics and whatever tournament they want to be in. Should solve your problem.

Best of luck with that.
 
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at some point you are going to have to become comfortable with acceptance of the situation

Definitely not – never! The NHL needs to be roundly condemned until it changes its egotistic, self-centered tune. :thumbu: I'm confident it will happen sooner or later, regardless of the fierce defenders of the status quo (from North America, of course).
 
Definitely not – never! The NHL needs to be roundly condemned until it changes its egotistic, self-centered tune. :thumbu: I'm confident it will happen sooner or later, regardless of the fierce defenders of the status quo (from North America, of course).
Will happen from whom? Certainly not enough in North America, their customer base, to actually matter.
 
That's what you're Debbie Downer saying, ;) and you'd be saying the same thing prior to the Nagano olympics, but I beg to differ.
 
Remove men's hockey from the olympics. If the best aren't there, men's hockey shouldn't be there. Allow the Olympics to showcase women's hockey.

But we do need a best-on-best tournament every 4 years or so. Bring back the World Cup in a best-on-best format.. (no team NA, team Europe...)

The last true best-on-best tournament was in 2014. We haven't had the chance to see Crosby and McDavid on the same team like we did with Gretzky and Lemieux in 87, and I think that is a failure in the part of the NHL and Gary Bettman in showcasing the game to the world.
 
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Remove men's hockey from the olympics. If the best aren't there, men's hockey shouldn't be there. Allow the Olympics to showcase women's hockey.

But we do need a best-on-best tournament every 4 years or so. Bring back the World Cup in a best-on-best format.. (no team NA, team Europe...)
Will the NHL pay the IIHF tens of millions of dollars for their participation? Thought so. The Olympics do and it was never even intended to be some kind of a "best-on-best" competition.
 
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What do you mean by "no NHL players"? :mad:

Enough of this annual & quadrennial sabotage of international hockey by the selfish NHL!

The NHL should pause its season every February for 2 weeks, to allow best-on-best World Championships or Olympics to take place. :thumbu:

The same strict rules should apply in hockey as in international soccer: no single country (or pair of countries) may dare sabotage top-level international tournaments.

And hockey is minuscule in terms of both global stature and $$$, compared to soccer, so don't give me that bull**** again about the NHL owners' money being more important than the Olympics or even the World Championships.

If soccer's millionaire and billionaire club owners can defer to international tournament scheduling, so should the NHL owners.

The NHL should just put up and shut up. :thumbu:

Other than that, the current Olympic (and World Championships) playing format is OK. But I voted "Other", given that the poll is built on a false premise. :eyeroll:

What exactly does this mean?
 
I don't know how old you guys are but let's put it this way: Next time you are going to see Russia in an international tournament you'll be drawing a pension.
Doubtful. If Hitler's country got accepted so quickly after World War 2, I'm pretty sure one invasion against a country with a history with them won't take long to be forgiven. There's already backlash about it affecting their sports from enough of the community.
 
Definitely not – never! The NHL needs to be roundly condemned until it changes its egotistic, self-centered tune. :thumbu: I'm confident it will happen sooner or later, regardless of the fierce defenders of the status quo (from North America, of course).

I believe, although you can correct me if you wish, that in global futbol, it is still the national leagues which have the power, and the continental bodies (UEFA, CONCACAF, etc along with FIFA) actually have to negotiate with the leagues so that the players can be available for the international competitions.

So, the equivalent would be that the IOC has to pay the NHL for the NHL players to go to the Olympics. Sure, I'm fine with that. Let the IOC and IIHF pay the NHL, KHL and other national bodies for the right to have the players there. I'm sure that the negotiations would include the ability to use images and videos of NHL players' great Olympic plays in NHL advertising.

I think it's actually the IOC who is selfish here. And, they have every right to be. Only if it costs them $$ will this change. On the other hand, it doesn't cost the NHL anything not to play in the Olympics.
 
Doubtful. If Hitler's country got accepted so quickly after World War 2, I'm pretty sure one invasion against a country with a history with them won't take long to be forgiven. There's already backlash about it affecting their sports from enough of the community.
Hitlers country was accepted in Hockey about a decade after he was dead and the Nuremberg trails were completed. So until Vlad slips his mortal coil....
 
Amateurs - Only university players. The US might prefer this but not many others.
If this is the definition of an amateur player then I wonder do the users who picked this option realize that university sports teams generally aren't a thing in Europe, not to mention university hockey leagues.

This "olympics are for amateur athletes" is such a weird point to begin with since while that might have been the original idea of the games it hasn't been actually the case in most olympic sports since the 80s.
 
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If this is the definition of an amateur player then I wonder do the users who picked this option realize that university sports teams generally aren't a thing in Europe, not to mention university hockey leagues.

This "olympics are for amateur athletes" is such a weird point to begin with since while that might have been the original idea of the games it hasn't been actually the case in most olympic sports since the 80s.

I’m guessing in Europe it would just mean players under 18
 
Hitlers country was accepted in Hockey about a decade after he was dead and the Nuremberg trails were completed. So until Vlad slips his mortal coil....

Strangely enough, the IIHF allowed USA to compete from 2017-21 despite a fascist dictator running the country.
 
Also Germany was banned in 1946 rather than before. Of course that's mostly a technicality because the IIHF was paralyzed during the war, but still.
 

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