hockeyfish
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I'll be an asshole for free.Is there a discount asshole we could acquire?
I'll be an asshole for free.Is there a discount asshole we could acquire?
I think it will be someone young but established with some of the assets left over from the Nuke/Drury trades, or like Bob alluded to, a change of scenery RFA.Gus Nyquist is going to be this year's Tatarsson, isn't he?
I really want to see Ivan make this team. I've long felt he plays very similar to Lehkonen, so if he can become a poor man's version that is a huge win for this team and how we got Ivan.Let's assume we trade Nichushkin and Drury.
If we don't want to "give" Ivan a spot without earning it, or don't think he's ready(dude led our AHL team in points in the playoffs, was 2nd on the team in points for the 2nd half of the season, and has REALLY developed his game), then there may be a 3LW spot open.
An asshole like Marchment, Bunting, etc. would make sense... BUT... we know Bednar would neuter these guys and/or hate them. Also, Marchment will cost a lot more than Bunting will.
Lehkonen - MacKinnon - Necas
Landeskog - Nelson - Brindley/Hughes
??? - Kadri - Hughes/Brindley
Kelly - Roy - O'Connor
Ivan
Agreed. Or just another version of LOC even.I really want to see Ivan make this team. I've long felt he plays very similar to Lehkonen, so if he can become a poor man's version that is a huge win for this team and how we got Ivan.
If we can get anything of value out of Ivan, Hughes, and Brindley it'll be massive for this team. I hope those three see the potential opportunity they have and take full advantage this offseason.
Something to remember is that Drury can get an offersheet for example for 3.5M and we would only get back a 2nd rounder if we let him go. That's at least a valid reason to look for a trade for him.
Where does Drury get the balls? Guy was given ample opportunity on the best (regular season) team last season to be the 3C and he did nothing with it.I think a 2nd round pick for Drury is more than fair.
I might be alone on that, but it’s what I feel. Anybody dreaming of a 1st round pick for a 4th liner is out to lunch, IMO.
If you get a 2nd round pick for Jack Drury, you take that.Something to remember is that Drury can get an offersheet for example for 3.5M and we would only get back a 2nd rounder if we let him go. That's at least a valid reason to look for a trade for him.
I really want to see Ivan make this team. I've long felt he plays very similar to Lehkonen, so if he can become a poor man's version that is a huge win for this team and how we got Ivan.
If we can get anything of value out of Ivan, Hughes, and Brindley it'll be massive for this team. I hope those three see the potential opportunity they have and take full advantage this offseason.
Dickinwife who is almost as offensively inept as Drury got 4 million a year and a NMC for 5 UFA years. It's widely ridiculed.He's not paid to produce. Have you seen other contracts around the league? Have you seen the C market?
What is his value then? 3M is the going rate for quality 4th liners with new contracts to sign. In 2 weeks no one would bat an eye at a 26 year old C that's heavily relied upon on the PK getting paid 3.5 on a multiyear deal
That's why not going after McMann sucks.People won't like Marchment's contract. He's currently making 4.5M, he'll get more than that and long term. Would you still want him at 6M X 6? That's a lot for a 3rd line winger.
I wonder how the Avs would look like today if the Flames would have agreed to retain on Kadri earlier (so no Roy) or not at all (so no Kadri).That's why not going after McMann sucks.
McMann/Mack/Necas
Landy/Nelly/Hughes
Lehky/Kadri/Roy
Kelly/Ivan/LOC
I imagine had we not traded for Kadri, the team would have been:I wonder how the Avs would look like today if the Flames would have agreed to retain on Kadri earlier (so no Roy) or not at all (so no Kadri).
I'm not saying I'd want the Avs to pay him. If they did though their 4th line would be 7.7M. if you assume it's Kelly-Drury-LOC. You don't pay every 4th liner premium rates but having one or two + a league min guy is pretty standard.Dickinwife who is almost as offensively inept as Drury got 4 million a year and a NMC for 5 UFA years. It's widely ridiculed.
Drury is a younger poorer (since nobody will pay him 4 million a year) Jason Dickinson.
Paying 9 million on your fourth line is still a bad allocation of cap space. Even with the rising cap.
Think we can get Shea in that price range?In that scenario…
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- Brindley, Hughes, and Ivan make the team.
- Kulak re-signed for $4.5m x 4y. Might need to make it 5 years, whatever. Window is closed in those later years anyways.
- Nichushkin and Drury traded for futures.
You’re looking at $5.8m to get a 6D + 2 healthy scratches.
A guy like Gagne could win a spot out of camp, but let’s just assume we go with two AHL “vets” as the scratches in Middleton and Nielsen(this guy had a great preseason last year for us).
Middleton($850k) + Nielsen($850k) = $1.7m
That leaves a hair over $4.175m for the 6th defenseman.
Ideally, that 6D is in that $1.5m-$2.5m range and we can either bank a couple of million in cap space through the season or sign a Tatarsson in the summer.
Who's available? Hill? Montembault? Markstrom? Binnington? Can't be Hellebuyck.
Who's available? Hill? Montembault? Markstrom? Binnington? Can't be Hellebuyck.