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2026 NHL Draft: We won #2! Reid or Stenberg for the win; taking Verhoeff is a drafting sin!

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Saw a tweet about Asky + #2 for Hellebuyck.... If that was on the table it would give Grier a lot to think about
Hard no for me. We aren't ready for a #1 goalie in his prime. We need to keep holding the Aksy option and we need Stenberg, Reid, Verhoeff, or Carels (Smits :( ) as a big swing.

By the time Misa, Smith, Cherny, Dick are fully developed and giving us a chance to truly compete, then we can assess the goalie situation. Either Asky is passable, or Ravensbergen is more ready, or we trade for someone then.
 
Saw a tweet about Asky + #2 for Hellebuyck.... If that was on the table it would give Grier a lot to think about
It would not

Trading the 2nd pick for a 33 year old goalie is the dumbest thing anyone could ever do

It was also an idea posted by Jesse from BarDown, the dumbest knob in all of hockey social media (and a Jets homer, at that), so it makes sense why he would say something so stupid
 
Saw a tweet about Asky + #2 for Hellebuyck.... If that was on the table it would give Grier a lot to think about
No way in hell. Don't get me wrong, goalies matter. But, not if the team in front of them isn't good. Hallebuyck had an .895 save % last year. Hes also 33. Hard Pass. Improve he sharks as a team and Aksy (or ned) will be just fine. The Canes didnt have a #1 Goalie. Neither did Vegas who gave Hill all this money and played Hart.

We also have Raven coming up in a couple years after he won WHL goalie of the year.

Grier is not gunna trade away #2. he might drop to 3 or 4 if Vancouver or Chicago throws an over the top package and he wants reid, but I am believing more and more and more that Stenberg is it. He's the consensus BPA and by far the most risk averse pick by a most risk averse GM. If Grier picks Reid, he runs a serious risk that Reid does not work out as hoped, Stenberg does, and everyone looks back at Consensus BPA and how grier deviated from his philosphy. he went slightly against consensus BPA taking Dick over Buium but that was not about positional need and was very close. Pre-Lottery, Stenberg was consensus above Reid, often listed in a totally different tier, and his worlds only rose his stock further.

It's not really that hard a decision for Grier not hard to predict. Get ready for Stenberg and for the D to be filled out by Spence, Hamilton, or someone similar.
 
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Hard no for me. We aren't ready for a #1 goalie in his prime. We need to keep holding the Aksy option and we need Stenberg, Reid, Verhoeff, or Carels (Smits :( ) as a big swing.

By the time Misa, Smith, Cherny, Dick are fully developed and giving us a chance to truly compete, then we can assess the goalie situation. Either Asky is passable, or Ravensbergen is more ready, or we trade for someone then.


Its jesse pollock... noted Jets fan.

Its a dumb trade that WAY over values Hellebuyck. And everyone picks san jose because everyone wants to speed up their rebuild but also take all the young talent they have.

Fans, in general, are dumb and make back trade ideas... because they over value their players. Goalies at most go for what Asky did... and thats only if they are young.

At best they might get 9OA from FLA.... but i dont know why FLA wouldnt use that to get Brady or Larkin.
 
BTW, the D on opening day and the D on closing day are unlikely to be the same. If the sharks are in the hunt well and have already drafted Stenberg, Grier will not hesitate to trade a package including the '27 1st to bolster the D akin to Vegas getting Andersson. Grier can get someone like spence, and then wait and see.

there are a few possibilities if they draft stenberg and add just spence.

1. Best realistic case: Spence plays 21 mins/gm, goes for 40+ pts adding a skating element joining the rush and helping run the PP well with his excellent shot. Kesselring anchors the PK, but also chips in 30 points playing solid 20 minutes similar to his last year in Utah. Dickinson continues his development, helps on the PK, and finds a bit more offensive game putting up 25-30 pts playing upwards of 20 mins/gm of steady hockey. Mukh also takes some strides playing a relatively boring 18 mins/gm of solid #4/5D. Orlov provides consistent PK work, seeing his ice time in the 18 min range as he ages. The #6 might be cagnoni or allan or Desi playing spot PK or PP mins around 12-14 mins. The D is league average as a whole, but gets the job done as the forwards are a top 5 unit in the NHL as Celly, Smith, Misa, Eklund, Cherny, Stenberg, Graf, Wennberg, and Sherwood (and Toffoli, Gaudette, or Musty in case of injury) just come at you in waves and the sharks are a contender allowing grier to trade the '27 1st to bolster the D even more ahead of the TDL.

2. Worst case: Spence and kesselring stink or are injured. The D is nearly as bad as last year. The forwards stall in development a bit and the sharks have a similar year to last in which they arent bottom 5, but miss the POs as the D (and/or G) lets down the forwards.

3. Most likely: The D is passable (say bottom 10 but not bottom 3) as the Klingberg--> Spence, and Ferraro --> Kesselring proves a slight upgrade along side the experience growth from Dick and Mukh. The Forwards continue to develop and the sharks have a season akin to Utah. Make the PO's by a bit, lose in the first round, but take a step forward.

If the sharks had the exact same D as last year, it's fair to assume that we would actually win more games this year. It's fair to assume all the kids + Stenberg make the team naturally better. Most players do not step back in years 2 or 3. Celly may not quite equal what he did, but the rest of the forwards should be better.

Grier can create a passable D, see what he has in the kids, hope to make POs through natural development, and then at the TDL or next summer, get more aggressive with enough data on needs and timeline.
 
Hard no for me. We aren't ready for a #1 goalie in his prime. We need to keep holding the Aksy option and we need Stenberg, Reid, Verhoeff, or Carels (Smits :( ) as a big swing.

By the time Misa, Smith, Cherny, Dick are fully developed and giving us a chance to truly compete, then we can assess the goalie situation. Either Asky is passable, or Ravensbergen is more ready, or we trade for someone then.
I agree but it is something to think about. You land a #1G, you have a #1C and a damn good chest of a forwards, you're in a place people want to live.....You become a magnet. Wouldn't it be nice to be one of the teams that's on everyone's trade list? What if that move attracts Q Hughes?

Again, i don't think it's the move to make, but it's interesting to consider and Grier wouldn't just shut if down.
It would not

Trading the 2nd pick for a 33 year old goalie is the dumbest thing anyone could ever do

It was also an idea posted by Jesse from BarDown, the dumbest knob in all of hockey social media (and a Jets homer, at that), so it makes sense why he would say something so stupid
yea Jesse is a moron, but using hyperbole like this is silly too.

The concept isn't totally farfetched if the Org doesn't believe in Asky, which one could argue they are mild about. It also creates a better environment for Ravensbergen to come up in.

They guy is a vezina and hart winner, of course you would think about the move if it was offered. THINK being the operative word.

Awful. Show me a trade in NHL history where a goalie as moved for a top 5 pick.
That's your standard for evaluating a potential trade? Not using your own brain? Come on, man.

"show me a time where a team traded for a star player with a debilitating neck injury?" - some Vegas fan against the Eichel trade, probably.
 
Saw a tweet about Asky + #2 for Hellebuyck.... If that was on the table it would give Grier a lot to think about
Sometimes, I feel like our fanbase doesn't understand the importance of timing and why you want to keep those #2 overall picks for yourself when all of the players you're counting to get you to the Cup are younger than 25. By the time those guys are mature and ready to actually take you somewhere, Hellebuyck is no longer going to be the goalie you need him to be.

The picks we use to trade for 30 year old and up players are the bottom of the first round and lower picks.
 

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