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He’s been outspoken about Muslims?

His hatred for Kadri is suspiciously high.

He said it was "Karma" after Naz got injured in the playoffs from Kane's cross check from behind and said this about his mild comments on Berube's "no comment" on the racist death threats.

"Nazem Kadri bringing up Craig Berube in the postgame news conference shows me why he was shipped out of Toronto. It’s all about him and not the team!"

Side note, he also berated a group of teenage refs at his son's game in St Louis.
 
His hatred for Kadri is suspiciously high.

He said it was "Karma" after Naz got injured in the playoffs from Kane's cross check from behind and said this about his mild comments on Berube's "no comment" on the racist death threats.

"Nazem Kadri bringing up Craig Berube in the postgame news conference shows me why he was shipped out of Toronto. It’s all about him and not the team!"

Side note, he also berated a group of teenage refs at his son's game in St Louis.

Tim Peel is Canadian?
 
His hatred for Kadri is suspiciously high.

He said it was "Karma" after Naz got injured in the playoffs from Kane's cross check from behind and said this about his mild comments on Berube's "no comment" on the racist death threats.

"Nazem Kadri bringing up Craig Berube in the postgame news conference shows me why he was shipped out of Toronto. It’s all about him and not the team!"

Side note, he also berated a group of teenage refs at his son's game in St Louis.

Why a ref has made comments about anything controversial while still playing and still has a job is beyond me.

I don't mind the few guys that blog or comment after they retire in order to give context, but their job is literally to be unbiased.

Which is difficult for anyone, but not just anyone gets to be an NHL ref. Every single one should be elite, paid well, and very intelligent.
 
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Why a ref has made comments about anything controversial while still playing and still has a job is beyond me.

I don't mind the few guys that blog or comment after they retire in order to give context, but their job is literally to be unbiased.

Which is difficult for anyone, but not just anyone gets to be an NHL ref. Every single one should be elite, paid well, and very intelligent.

Usually these systemic problems with incompetence and abuse of power are personnel problems, that stem from having a limited pool of people willing to do a hard job, and covering up for their mistakes.

So they inevitably end up being unqualified, not very intelligent, wanting to do it for the wrong reasons, and feeling a sense of invincibility from the lack of accountability.

IMO the solution is to pay better and invest more in better training. That way you end up with more intelligent people, that are willing to do the job, and they're better trained, and don't let their emotions drive their decision making. So I totally agree with your last point here.

They need to be highly qualified, because a lot rides on their awareness, and decision making ability. Not just the hockey version of power hungry mall cops, that let the stores get robbed, because they're harassing skateboarders or something.
 
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Usually these systemic problems with incompetence and abuse of power are personnel problems, that stem from having a limited pool of people willing to do a hard job, and covering up for their mistakes.

So they inevitably end up being unqualified, not very intelligent, wanting to do it for the wrong reasons, and feeling a sense of invincibility from the lack of accountability.

IMO the solution is to pay better and invest more in better training. That way you end up with more intelligent people, that are willing to do the job, and they're better trained. So I totally agree with your last point here.

They need to be highly qualified, because a lot rides on their awareness, and decision making ability. Not just the hockey version of power hungry mall cops, that let the stores get robbed, because they're harassing skateboarders or something.

I'll avoid going down this rabbit hole further, but yes lol. It's pretty clear something broke somewhere in the last 20 years.

I started noticing long time respected refs retiring years ago. Their replacements have been dog shit in large part.
 
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I'll avoid going down this rabbit hole further, but yes lol. It's pretty clear something broke somewhere in the last 20 years.

I started noticing long time respected refs retiring years ago. Their replacements have been dog shit in large part.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the refs used to be way more respected by players 20 years ago.

Aside from Don Koharski maybe. :laugh:
 
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That's how clueless and unwilling the league is to hold officials accountable.

One guy f***s up an offsides, and instead of holding him accountable, they make the game objectively worse, by sucking all the energy out of a game to spend minutes to review, and eventually call back goals that brought joy to tens of thousands of hockey fans watching, including important milestones, and first goals for players that may never be had again, just to avoid having someone's skate an inch over the line, which nobody saw with the naked eye in real time, and had literally no benefit to the goal being scored whatsoever.

Unbelievable isn't even the right word. Monumentally stupid as f*** and shortsighted as hell is a better way to put it. I hate that dumb rule so much.
"But we have the technology to right the wrong so we should use it..."

Or some other tomfoolery gets uttered.
 
"But we have the technology to right the wrong so we should use it..."

Or some other tomfoolery gets uttered.
Exactly, allow the player and puck tracking technology save us all.

Or... hear me out. Eliminate offsides.

Allow teams to try and test just how far they can push it and what kinds of players can make a system based on cherry picking work. If they want to go a man down in their own d-zone on purpose....so be it.
 
Exactly, allow the player and puck tracking technology save us all.

Or... hear me out. Eliminate offsides.

Allow teams to try and test just how far they can push it and what kinds of players can make a system based on cherry picking work. If they want to go a man down in their own d-zone on purpose....so be it.

I don't know if I'd go that far, but as much as I've thought about that rule the only thing I can think of is simply to go back to using human error as a buffer. No more video reviews..

If the fkn offsides isn't far enough offsides to be picked up by the human ref, it shouldn't be offsides.

Yes there will be some obvious mistakes, so f***in what.

Having goals called back after video review Nats asses it just needs to stop.
 
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Exactly, allow the player and puck tracking technology save us all.

Or... hear me out. Eliminate offsides.

Allow teams to try and test just how far they can push it and what kinds of players can make a system based on cherry picking work. If they want to go a man down in their own d-zone on purpose....so be it.
No. No. A thousand times NO.

You take away offsides you’re going to get 60 minutes of teams doing what they do on 3-on-3. If holding the zone has no discernible advantage then teams aren’t going to even bother with it and reset every chance they get, stretch it out, leave at least one guy back, etc.
 
No. No. A thousand times NO.

You take away offsides you’re going to get 60 minutes of teams doing what they do on 3-on-3. If holding the zone has no discernible advantage then teams aren’t going to even bother with it and reset every chance they get, stretch it out, leave at least one guy back, etc.
I don't think you're giving coaches enough credit. The game wasn't ruined with the elimination of the red line. I don't believe it would be with the elimination of offsides. Radical change definitely and it certainly wouldn't start at the NHL level. But.... why not try and get the ECHL to give it a go and then think about whether or not it's worth it to try at the AHL level.

I just want the reviews gone. I don't want hockey contested in a courtroom, I want it contested on the ice.
 
I don't think you're giving coaches enough credit. The game wasn't ruined with the elimination of the red line. I don't believe it would be with the elimination of offsides. Radical change definitely and it certainly wouldn't start at the NHL level. But.... why not try and get the ECHL to give it a go and then think about whether or not it's worth it to try at the AHL level.

I just want the reviews gone. I don't want hockey contested in a courtroom, I want it contested on the ice.

I don't mind the goalie interference review as long as they clarify it better. They've done a little better with that this year, just chose not to tell anyone until the wtfs happened.

It sounds like they're actually going to build a file on goalies who seek contact too, like diving.
 
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I don't mind the goalie interference review as long as they clarify it better. They've done a little better with that this year, just chose not to tell anyone until the wtfs happened.

It sounds like they're actually going to build a file on goalies who seek contact too, like diving.
I just wish they wouldn't call both a penalty and a subsequent dive. Make it one or the other. If it's a legit penalty, don't judge the players reaction. If it wasn't a legit penalty and you've got a guy flopping around like he's playing soccer, call it an actual DIVE not embellishment. Have the refs instructed to use the word DIVING.
 
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