Speculation: 2025 Trade/Free Agency Thread

[MCB]

I started off the year loving fabbris play, but as of late it's become frustrating. But even when I liked him I still wanted him traded as the deadline. Trade dumo and fabbri, see if any good offers come along but I don't expect much

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I started off the year loving fabbris play, but as of late it's become frustrating. But even when I liked him I still wanted him traded as the deadline. Trade dumo and fabbri, see if any good offers come along but I don't expect much

Fabbri is whatever.... i dont mind him.... but i dont need him on the roster post deadline.

i feel like you can find someone like him in waivers/small trade asset.

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

Yeah I don't get the Fabbri hate. He's a bottom 6 NHLer and that's where he's playing.

a 4th line featuring a healthy McGinn and Fabbri seems like a huge asset but those guys are never healthy and we'd need major upgrades at every third line spot to make it work.

A 4th line of McGinn-Gaucher-Fabbri sounds genuinely interesting but like you said, we would see them healthy together for maybe 13 games of the season

 

[Hey234]

I just don't see how they can justify keeping Fabbri. Doesn't stay healthy, doesn't produce enough offense, and is very poor defensively. He hasn't earned a top 9 role and his game isn't suited for the 4th line. He just doesn't fit.

 

[DavidBL]

Imo we need at least 2 4th liners. I'm okay keeping Lundy though I wouldn't mind an upgrade either. I think at least 2 of those guys needs to have better than average PK chops.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Imo we need at least 2 4th liners. I'm okay keeping Lundy though I wouldn't mind an upgrade either. I think at least 2 of those guys needs to have better than average PK chops.

Idk that lundy really does enough for me... Hes not really physical at all, doesnt really do well in the dot, doesnt really score much.

He kills penalties.

I think Gaucher will pass him up quickly... still hoping the Islanders become sellers at deadline/draft and we can get JGP as a 3rd/4th line center option... hes overpaid but we have cap space to take him on.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I started off the year loving fabbris play, but as of late it's become frustrating. But even when I liked him I still wanted him traded as the deadline. Trade dumo and fabbri, see if any good offers come along but I don't expect much

I can't but wonder if the repeated knee injuries are weighing him down mentally as much as physically. It would be hard to just focus on playing hockey knowing you are a little tweak away from another major op. This year alone we've seen him play much better than he is right now. I have a lot of respect for the guy, always has had heart, hopefully can rebound again.

 

[91Fedorov]

Yeah I don't get the Fabbri hate. He's a bottom 6 NHLer and that's where he's playing.

For me, it's not hate. He just barely does anything. He's not physical and not good defensively. He's just a small, quick offensive player that doesn't score enough to play that role. If he were right handed, that would at least be something. If he didn't help us reach the cap floor, I doubt we would have traded for him. The nail in the coffin for me is, I would much rather see Colangelo get playing time than watch him just fill a spot.

 

[tomd]

For me, it's not hate. He just barely does anything. He's not physical and not good defensively. He's just a small, quick offensive player that doesn't score enough to play that role. If he were right handed, that would at least be something. If he didn't help us reach the cap floor, I doubt we would have traded for him. The nail in the coffin for me is, I would much rather see Colangelo get playing time than watch him just fill a spot.

You certainly aren't painting a picture for Fabbri that would make any other team want him...and maybe that's why he'll be staying here through at least the end of the year.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Faceoffs remain a huge sore spot. Last in the league at 43.62%. Starting after stoppages with possession, 7% less than the average faceoff teams and 10% less than the good ones. It's especially paramount on special teams and part of why our powerplay struggles.

 

[ohcomeonref]

Faceoffs remain a huge sore spot. Last in the league at 43.62%. Starting after stoppages with possession, 7% less than the average faceoff teams and 10% less than the good ones. It's especially paramount on special teams and part of why our powerplay struggles.

Yeah but have you seen the defensive master class the team puts on every night?! With defense this good why would we need to win faceoffs?

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Faceoffs remain a huge sore spot. Last in the league at 43.62%. Starting after stoppages with possession, 7% less than the average faceoff teams and 10% less than the good ones. It's especially paramount on special teams and part of why our powerplay struggles.

Still pacing for the worst team FO% in league history, since they started tracking.

 

[Mr Rogers]

It is actually astonishing that this team is .500 this far into the season. I feel like we are DFL in nearly everything except goaltending. The eye test isn't any better either.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Still pacing for the worst team FO% in league history, since they started tracking.

Yikes didn't realize that. Unacceptable

Go get a guy like Pageau who can play a top 6 RW role alongside one of our struggling faceoff guys and take the majority of their draws. Replace Lundy with a bottom six center who can win draws. Needs to get better

 

[WhatTheDuck]

It is actually astonishing that this team is .500 this far into the season. I feel like we are DFL in nearly everything except goaltending. The eye test isn't any better either.

I don't know, I feel like we show flashes of being way more exciting and competent, far more than we've seen in recent years. But they are just too few and far between, wrapped between spans of playing like complete dogwater.

I am starting to realize that there are no perfect teams in this league though. Maybe there's just too much parity these days or whatever, but there isn't a team we can't beat on a given night, only maybe Florida stands out as a team without very clear flaws. Edmonton came within one win of a Cup last year and their roster is so questionable. I really think this team could hang with the best of them more often, without monumental changes but rather just some well placed tweaks.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Yikes didn't realize that. Unacceptable

Go get a guy like Pageau who can play a top 6 RW role alongside one of our struggling faceoff guys and take the majority of their draws. Replace Lundy with a bottom six center who can win draws. Needs to get better

 

[WhatTheDuck]

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[ADHB]

In regards to faceoffs, if Leo has been working on them, you sure couldn't tell. When he stands in the faceoff circle, he literally just stands there and flicks his stick at the puck. No leverage on the stick, or even any sort of spinny move to make it at least look like he's trying. I can't believe no one has taught him a better technique. It's almost like what it would look like if you took someone out of the crowd and told them to take the draw.

 

[SmokeyDuck]

Faceoffs remain a huge sore spot. Last in the league at 43.62%. Starting after stoppages with possession, 7% less than the average faceoff teams and 10% less than the good ones. It's especially paramount on special teams and part of why our powerplay struggles.

Improving our faceoffs will go a long way to improving our offense and defense. When you are loosing possession constantly off faceoffs, its not good. I hope we get a faceoff ace at the deadline. A pipe dream but apparently Rantanen is pretty good at them.

 

[DavidBL]

Ah, remember the days where face offs didn't matter because advanced stats said so? The argument went something like "stats show you don't score often within like 30 seconds(maybe it was a minute) to a face off victory so they don't matter" so cringe worthy.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Ah, remember the days where face offs didn't matter because advanced stats said so? The argument went something like "stats show you don't score often within like 30 seconds(maybe it was a minute) to a face off victory so they don't matter" so cringe worthy.

Yeah it's weird that advanced stats enthusiasts would preach possession so heavily but then not see the value in a competition that can win your team possession of the puck...

It's all about limiting the amount of time the other team has with clean possession in your half of the ice, there really shouldn't be any argument against winning faceoffs generally being beneficial to limiting opponents offensive possession time..

 

[MMC]

Part of why I wanted Grant retained after 22-23

 

[LuGBuG]

Does he want to commit to being a 4th liner on a bad team at 29 years old? I think he’d like to talk to 32 teams and cash in on his one good free agency opportunity. Bad timing with another injury, I hope the Ducks can still grab a mid round pick for him next week.

Maybe not. I’m just saying what I’d like to do haha.

I hear you, and he's certainly better than Johnston back there, but our 4th line needs some defensive chops. Fabbri does not have them.

I think it’s something a guy like him could figure out once in a role he’s supposed to be in. Most curious deadline we’ve had in a while though. Usually we understand the play by December.