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Speculation: 2025 Trade/Free Agency Thread (TDL is March 7th)

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robbieboy3686 said:
#3 picks usually play their 2nd season at latest(unless they are in the khl)
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His mind is telling us yes...
but his body... his body is telling us nooo-oh-oohhhhhh...
Maybe...
he won't hurt his body.
But there's something the NHL must confeeeessssss...
the NHL doesn't see nothing wrong... with a whole lot of bump and grind!

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Hockey Duckie said:
His mind is telling us yes...
but his body... his body is telling us nooo-oh-oohhhhhh...
Maybe...
he won't hurt his body.
But there's something the NHL must confeeeessssss...
the NHL doesn't see nothing wrong... with a whole lot of bump and grind!

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He looks to have the body of Troy Terry. What am I missing here?
 
gilfaizon said:
I've wondered if the rights to Ian Moore could be traded tomorrow if he has no intention of signing here due to the logjam. We will see soon enough.
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Def something I can see being the case

As for the rest of the thread

Sennecke isnt going to be gifted a spot on the roster, and really shouldn’t be in NHL next year.

If we are kicking tires on Rantanen it’s because we arnt confident we can get big ticket free agents to sign here in offseason. If we can get him w/extension now I think there is value in doing it now.

Wouldn’t trade terry for Rantanen/or anyone realistic. I imagine the main components of a trade are mctavish/zegras + young dmen + Gibson /1st.

All Mighty said:
That’s also a trade that can happen after the deadline.
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No way moore gets as much as thrun tho? I mean what are we realistically looking at?

A 4th? Maybe a diff prospect?
 
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robbieboy3686 said:
He looks to have the body of Troy Terry. What am I missing here?
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I suppose you're missing a lot.

Terry spent three seasons in the NCAA developing his body as a 6'0 forward after being drafted. Then went to the AHL in his D+4 season to start his pro career.

Sennecke was 5'10" in his D-1 season and then measured at 6'2.75" at the NHL combine, growing nearly five inches within two seasons. He couldn't coordinate his body until the second half of his D+0 season (draft year), which is what made him rise up the charts and become a #3 pick. That massive growth spurt in a short amount of time doesn't give his body enough time to develop thicker. On top of that, I think Sennecke grew an extra inch this season.

Beckett's body growth is a unique circumstance. The more mass Sennecke can put on, then the better he can play at the NHL level. We're already complaining about Carlsson not being strong enough for the NHL this season, but you're going to be oblivious about Sennecke's body composition?

The best ability is availability. If Sennecke is oft injured b/c his body physically couldn't handle the NHL punishment, then what good is he to the team? He isn't.

I don't understand the impatience. We just got RW Colangelo with the NHL club gelling with Cutter and Mac. There is no need to rush Sennecke.
 
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Hockey Duckie said:
I suppose you're missing a lot.

Terry spent three seasons in the NCAA developing his body as a 6'0 forward after being drafted. Then went to the AHL in his D+4 season to start his pro career.

Sennecke was 5'10" in his D-1 season and then measured at 6'2.75" at the NHL combine, growing nearly five inches within two seasons. He couldn't coordinate his body until the second half of his D+0 season (draft year), which is what made him rise up the charts and become a #3 pick. That massive growth spurt in a short amount of time doesn't give his body enough time to develop thicker. On top of that, I think Sennecke grew an extra inch this season.

Beckett's body growth is a unique circumstance. The more mass Sennecke can put on, then the better he can play at the NHL level. We're already complaining about Carlsson not being strong enough for the NHL this season, but you're going to be oblivious about Sennecke's body composition?

The best ability is availability. If Sennecke is oft injured b/c his body physically couldn't handle the NHL punishment, then what good is he to the team? He isn't.

I don't understand the impatience. We just got RW Colangelo with the NHL club gelling with Cutter and Mac. There is no need to rush Sennecke.
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There’s no impatience. Just that top 3 picks almost always are on the nhl rosters by year 2. And given verbeek has already done the Leo plan, I don’t see why the Leo plan wouldn’t be utilitized here.
 
Sennecke looked good in pre-season, I think he has the tools to play in the NHL but really comes down to his physique. If he adds some mass and his IQ is at a high enough level to avoid putting himself in bad situations, I could see him making the team next year. His body has to be ready though. Steak, potatoes and some HGH!

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Rybread86 said:
Sennecke looked good in pre-season, I think he has the tools to play in the NHL but really comes down to his physique. If he adds some mass and his IQ is at a high enough level to avoid putting himself in bad situations, I could see him making the team next year. His body has to be ready though. Steak, potatoes and some HGH!
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guy like verbeek will have 3 personal trainers on 8 hour shifts for sennecke this off season.
 
The problem is that Sennecke is too young for the AHL next season. So it's CHL or nothing, unless he goes the US college route, which is allowed now. Honestly, that would probably be the best for him - one year at Minnesota or BC or something.

But if he doesn't go to college, I'd rather him be in the NHL than back in the CHL.
 
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robbieboy3686 said:
There’s no impatience. Just that top 3 picks almost always are on the nhl rosters by year 2. And given verbeek has already done the Leo plan, I don’t see why the Leo plan wouldn’t be utilitized here.
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First you say Sennecke is at Terry build, but I proved you completely wrong upon it. Now you're saying that Sennecke and Carlsson have the same body type. If they had the same body type, then why not bring Sennecke over this season and run the Carlsson load mgmt plan? And the Carlsson load mgmt plan didn't work! Were you here all of last year to witness it didn't work?!

The Luneau plan worked because there was ample time to work out and rest. Stupid infection ruled him out of the WJC and rest of the season. The Carlsson plan didn't work b/c there wasn't ample time for rest AND Carlsson kept getting injured.

I still view Sennecke as a bean pole, especially if he's still growing. If he's still growing, then that means his coordination might still be off a bit.

Can you give me a different reason of Sennecke substance than, "Well, most top-3 pick almost alllllways make the NHL roster by year 2?" Would it make you feel better to know that Sennecke was often ranked in the teens before the draft and the Ducks took a huge gamble to pick him 3rd overall at the draft? Hell, even Sennecke was surprised by it too.

You know who was ranked high in the first round? Luneau. But he never recovered fully from his knee surgery in his D+0 season and his stock dropped to the 2nd round. In Luneau's D+1 season, he recovered 90% and became Def player of the year in the Q. He solidified his CSB pre-lim rating of a first round pick with this D+1 performance.

Luneau
  • Jan birthday
  • D+1 QMJHL, won Q Def player of the Year
  • D+2 Ineligible for AHL; NHL Luneau plan, sent to WJC and got infected
  • D+3 tearing up the AHL in the 2nd half of the season

Sennecke
  • Jan birthday
  • D+1 OHL
  • D+2 Ineligible for AHL; future ?

No full-time NHL, top-9RW spot available

There might not be a top-9 RW spot next year if Colangelo continues scoring consistently for the rest of this season.
RW1 = Terry.
RW2 = Killorn.
RW3 = Colangelo.

The Shane Wright Case

He was drafted #4 OA in the 2022 draft.

D+1: Followed the Luneau program (Actually, we followed the Wright program since Seattle did it first before us.) NHL, AHL, back to OHL and WJC.
D+2: 8 NHL games, but stay in the AHL for 59 games.
D+3: full-time NHL

I guess it's very plausible to not be a full-time NHL'er as a top-4 pick in your D+2 season.
 
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Hockey Duckie said:
First you say Sennecke is at Terry build, but I proved you completely wrong upon it. Now you're saying that Sennecke and Carlsson have the same body type. If they had the same body type, then why not bring Sennecke over this season and run the Carlsson load mgmt plan? And the Carlsson load mgmt plan didn't work! Were you here all of last year to witness it didn't work?!

The Luneau plan worked because there was ample time to work out and rest. Stupid infection ruled him out of the WJC and rest of the season. The Carlsson plan didn't work b/c there wasn't ample time for rest AND Carlsson kept getting injured.

I still view Sennecke as a bean pole, especially if he's still growing. If he's still growing, then that means his coordination might still be off a bit.

Can you give me a different reason of Sennecke substance than, "Well, most top-3 pick almost alllllways make the NHL roster by year 2?" Would it make you feel better to know that Sennecke was often ranked in the teens before the draft and the Ducks took a huge gamble to pick him 3rd overall at the draft? Hell, even Sennecke was surprised by it too.

You know who was ranked high in the first round? Luneau. But he never recovered fully from his knee surgery in his D+0 season and his stock dropped to the 2nd round. In Luneau's D+1 season, he recovered 90% and became Def player of the year in the Q. He solidified his CSB pre-lim rating of a first round pick with this D+1 performance.

Luneau
  • Jan birthday
  • D+1 QMJHL, won Q Def player of the Year
  • D+2 Ineligible for AHL; NHL Luneau plan, sent to WJC and got infected
  • D+3 tearing up the AHL in the 2nd half of the season

Sennecke
  • Jan birthday
  • D+1 OHL
  • D+2 Ineligible for AHL; future ?

No full-time NHL, top-9RW spot available

There might not be a top-9 RW spot next year if Colangelo continues scoring consistently for the rest of this season.
RW1 = Terry.
RW2 = Killorn.
RW3 = Colangelo.

The Shane Wright Case

He was drafted #4 OA in the 2022 draft.

D+1: Followed the Luneau program (Actually, we followed the Wright program since Seattle did it first before us.) NHL, AHL, back to OHL and WJC.
D+2: 8 NHL games, but stay in the AHL for 59 games.
D+3: full-time NHL

I guess it's very plausible to not be a full-time NHL'er as a top-4 pick in your D+2 season.
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Let’s see what happens next season, I agree if he’s still a bean poll by next season. He shoudnt be on the nlh roster. Let’s see how the summer treats him
 
Sennecke will get his 9 games next year unless he bombs in TC. After that, he'll have to make it super tough for management to send him down. I don't see that happening.
 
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JAHV said:
The problem is that Sennecke is too young for the AHL next season. So it's CHL or nothing, unless he goes the US college route, which is allowed now. Honestly, that would probably be the best for him - one year at Minnesota or BC or something.

But if he doesn't go to college, I'd rather him be in the NHL than back in the CHL.
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He can't go to the NCAA because he signed his ELC.
 
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JAHV said:
The problem is that Sennecke is too young for the AHL next season. So it's CHL or nothing, unless he goes the US college route, which is allowed now. Honestly, that would probably be the best for him - one year at Minnesota or BC or something.

But if he doesn't go to college, I'd rather him be in the NHL than back in the CHL.
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He’s already under contract, no college for him
 
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