2025 Team Canada World Junior Predictions

[Millpond]

Dave Cameron straight up saying he can't fix the discipline issue should be grounds enough for him not to finish the tournament as coach.

He appears to have given up on his team.
Practice cancelled forTC today, maybe they are sending Cameron packing .

 

[Millpond]

In all honesty, these are a lot of the same things we say about DC on the 67s thread.

He is stubborn, won’t change, structure over creativity etc. I’ve been suggesting that since the 67s are entering a rebuild cycle, and DC is 68, his time is done. Time to retire. The game has changed.

I still feel there is more than enough talent on this roster to win the tournament. Stay out of the box and allow the skill guys to play their puck possession game. Stop with the dump and chase. Turning over possession constantly only to have to regain it is dumb. There is more than enough skill to use speed to gain the zone with possession.

But regardless, stay out of the box and make some f’n passes with authority. They are forcing the puck around the ice. When you see the slow passes, you can tell they are trying to guide the pass instead of zip it around naturally.

Put the Saginaw coach in charge, send Cameron back to his old neighbourhood

 

[OMG67]

Put the Saginaw coach in charge, send Cameron back to his old neighbourhood

What if we don’t want him back?

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Dave Cameron straight up saying he can't fix the discipline issue should be grounds enough for him not to finish the tournament as coach.

I appreciate the idea. Maybe this is a Cameron thing but I can't fault him for that comment. It's a short tournament they know the difference between disciplined and undisciplined. They have also had their rear ends kissed by their parents, scouts, coaches and Hockey Canada for years. Fans of the WJs have become exactly what they would criticize Americans for when it comes to basketball and the Olympics.

 

[ScoutLife4]

He appears to have given up on his team.
Practice cancelled forTC today, maybe they are sending Cameron packing .

He was busy having a meeting about accountability after saying last night there was nothing he could do lol.
My guess that answer last night didn’t go over well with HC brass.

 

[bobber]

I appreciate the idea. Maybe this is a Cameron thing but I can't fault him for that comment. It's a short tournament they know the difference between disciplined and undisciplined. They have also had their rear ends kissed by their parents, scouts, coaches and Hockey Canada for years. Fans of the WJs have become exactly what they would criticize Americans for when it comes to basketball and the Olympics.

Great points Razor. Every year since the beginning of this tourney the number one issue they preach on is staying disciplined. Canada has more than a few players that play a more aggressive chippy style on their home teams. They get sucked in to easily. Say what you want about Cameron but when you see these players take selfish or dumb penalties they aren't listening to any one on the bench. The Americans sucked them in chirping , face washing and knocking players down at whistles. Canadian goals are hard enough to come by. Being short handed half a game doesn't help their cause any. Lots of talk of how Canada out plays opponents 5 on 5. If it was a skating competition they look solid. Maybe we see the real Canadian team against the Czechs.

 

[EvenSteven]

Great points Razor. Every year since the beginning of this tourney the number one issue they preach on is staying disciplined. Canada has more than a few players that play a more aggressive chippy style on their home teams. They get sucked in to easily. Say what you want about Cameron but when you see these players take selfish or dumb penalties they aren't listening to any one on the bench. The Americans sucked them in chirping , face washing and knocking players down at whistles. Canadian goals are hard enough to come by. Being short handed half a game doesn't help their cause any. Lots of talk of how Canada out plays opponents 5 on 5. If it was a skating competition they look solid. Maybe we see the real Canadian team against the Czechs.

They got sucked in at times. But they instigated a lot and some of those penalties weren’t in retaliation but rather due to stupidity and undisciplined play.

 

[DWI Dale]

Agree with a lot being said on here. It's been hard to watch us roll out the same line combos and powerplay game-to-game despite it being clear there's a lack of chemistry. This weird perimeter hockey we're playing is god awful to watch and easily defended. The selfish penalties are costing us bigtime. And the coach seems more than willing to keep rewarding the selfish and undisciplined play with time on PP1 (I'm looking at you Cowan lol).

The overthinkers at Hockey Canada need to get out of their own way, pick merit based rosters and team staff, and start paying attention to why other nations have caught up to, or surpassed our development model.

 

[OMG67]

They got sucked in at times. But they instigated a lot and some of those penalties weren’t in retaliation but rather due to stupidity and undisciplined play.

Yup. 100%.

But, when Cameron says it is up to the players to solve that issue, he is correct. The players need to police themselves. There needs to be a leadership group in that room that polices the players that are playing undisciplined hockey. It really is that simple. The coach can bench a kid but if the rest of the players aren’t on that guy, it doesn’t’ really do much good. The player peers will be way more effective at shutting all that down. I believe that is what Cameron is getting at.

One thing about Dave Cameron is that is he a pretty odd guy. He doesn’t speak political language and he doesn’t really explain stuff either. He is a matter of fact type guy that has a hard time truly conveying what he means. When he says what he says about the players having to solve it themselves, he means the leaders in the room have to be leaders. Right now, the cowboys need to coral the herd. The players need to find the answers themselves. A coach can give the structure but the players are the ones that need to skate through the wall and they need to do it as a team. They need to find that from within, not from the outside from a Coach.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Yup. 100%.

But, when Cameron says it is up to the players to solve that issue, he is correct. The players need to police themselves. There needs to be a leadership group in that room that polices the players that are playing undisciplined hockey. It really is that simple. The coach can bench a kid but if the rest of the players aren’t on that guy, it doesn’t’ really do much good. The player peers will be way more effective at shutting all that down. I believe that is what Cameron is getting at.

One thing about Dave Cameron is that is he a pretty odd guy. He doesn’t speak political language and he doesn’t really explain stuff either. He is a matter of fact type guy that has a hard time truly conveying what he means. When he says what he says about the players having to solve it themselves, he means the leaders in the room have to be leaders. Right now, the cowboys need to coral the herd. The players need to find the answers themselves. A coach can give the structure but the players are the ones that need to skate through the wall and they need to do it as a team. They need to find that from within, not from the outside from a Coach.

Morning skate canceled. He's probably has had it with this group. I think he's merely protecting these guys or trying some 3 dimensional chess on these guys. I think it's probably the former because if it was some 3d chess these players would understand it.

 

[dirty12]

Agree with a lot being said on here. It's been hard to watch us roll out the same line combos and powerplay game-to-game despite it being clear there's a lack of chemistry. This weird perimeter hockey we're playing is god awful to watch and easily defended. The selfish penalties are costing us bigtime. And the coach seems more than willing to keep rewarding the selfish and undisciplined play with time on PP1 (I'm looking at you Cowan lol).

The overthinkers at Hockey Canada need to get out of their own way, pick merit based rosters and team staff, and start paying attention to why other nations have caught up to, or surpassed our development model.

There is one 200 lb forward, eight of fourteen Canadian forwards are 5'11" or less; perimeter play is what you're getting, I think.

 

[ScoutLife4]

I think I'm actually more excited for this game tonight then a gold medal game just to see how the team responds to what has taken place.
I would not want to be DC if they lose this game tonight.
He is going to get absolutely crushed for this if it goes bad with the way he has handled this.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

I think I'm actually more excited for this game tonight then a gold medal game just to see how the team responds to what has taken place.
I would not want to be DC if they lose this game tonight.
He is going to get absolutely crushed for this if it goes bad with the way he has handled this.

He will survive this. If he can survive what happened in 2011 he's good.

 

[OMG67]

I think I'm actually more excited for this game tonight then a gold medal game just to see how the team responds to what has taken place.
I would not want to be DC if they lose this game tonight.
He is going to get absolutely crushed for this if it goes bad with the way he has handled this.

Let’s be real. How does Team Canada not have someone to coach this team that is up and coming in their program? Seems odd to me that DC was even named to coach the team. DC is 66 years old. HE isn’t getting another NHL shot. He’s basically done moving up. This is more of him doing them a favour than the other way around.

This Team Canada gig is supposed to be for coaches on the rise, not the decline. What does that tell you about the shape of Hockey Canada? The big picture isn’t’ looking good. If this turns out to be a shambles (and I hope they push through and prove us all wrong), this is not going to fall on DC as heavy as you think. There are decisions made at a higher level by bigger people that will come with a reckoning. It is not like Hockey Canada has not been put through the wringer the last couple years. There has to be something going on at the highest levels that made them land on this decision.

 

[ScoutLife4]

Let’s be real. How does Team Canada not have someone to coach this team that is up and coming in their program? Seems odd to me that DC was even named to coach the team. DC is 66 years old. HE isn’t getting another NHL shot. He’s basically done moving up. This is more of him doing them a favour than the other way around.

This Team Canada gig is supposed to be for coaches on the rise, not the decline. What does that tell you about the shape of Hockey Canada? The big picture isn’t’ looking good. If this turns out to be a shambles (and I hope they push through and prove us all wrong), this is not going to fall on DC as heavy as you think. There are decisions made at a higher level by bigger people that will come with a reckoning. It is not like Hockey Canada has not been put through the wringer the last couple years. There has to be something going on at the highest levels that made them land on this decision.

DC was taking the brunt of it yesterday from the NHL execs in Kingston I overhead talking about it.
ALOT of the NHL front offices came to Kingston yesterday to watch the Brampton game on their off day from WJ.
It was the topic of the scout room and viewing area yesterday.
I think I have eluded to HC politics at least 5-10x on here.
I do however believe he is the face of the team and going to take a shit kicking from this if it turns out how we all think its going to.
Let's face it it's an old boys club. -Just like scouting is for the most part.
Speaking of young and upcoming coaches - Who would you take for this next year?

 

[OMG67]

DC was taking the brunt of it yesterday from the NHL execs in Kingston I overhead talking about it.
ALOT of the NHL front offices came to Kingston yesterday to watch the Brampton game on their off day from WJ.
It was the topic of the scout room and viewing area yesterday.
I think I have eluded to HC politics at least 5-10x on here.
I do however believe he is the face of the team and going to take a shit kicking from this if it turns out how we all think its going to.
Let's face it it's an old boys club. -Just like scouting is for the most part.
Speaking of young and upcoming coaches - Who would you take for this next year?

He will take the public scrutiny but there will be a lot of shit hitting the fan behind the scenes at the management/board level at Hockey Canada.

DC has zero to lose. He cares but it makes zero difference to him other than his trophy case. It won’t affect his job in Ottawa and at his age, he is done at the Pro level. This is it for him now. It is not like had he won a masterfully coached Gold Medal that he’d get another NHL gig. He is an easy sacrifice. So be it.

But, I think the “Program of Excellence” will take a hit. I think they will look a lot more at strategy selecting the team going forward. It is not like DC selects the team. He has influence, sure, but he doesn’t have the final say, nor does his voice carry the most weight in the room. He can fight for a player or two and they may give in but outside that, he is blameless for the selection of the players. Roll it all the way back to who was invited to the camp. Most of the players that were not invited were the head scratchers. DC doesn’t participate in the invites.

How he has deployed them is where the fingers can point in his direction 100%. The strategy with which those players are plugged into is on him as well. You can see they are more constructed for goal prevention, especially with the strategy they deploy. Great but you have to make good on the PP and you have to stay out of the box to have that work the way it is planned. They aren’t staying out of the box and they aren’t scoring enough on the PP.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

DC was taking the brunt of it yesterday from the NHL execs in Kingston I overhead talking about it.
ALOT of the NHL front offices came to Kingston yesterday to watch the Brampton game on their off day from WJ.
It was the topic of the scout room and viewing area yesterday.
I think I have eluded to HC politics at least 5-10x on here.
I do however believe he is the face of the team and going to take a shit kicking from this if it turns out how we all think its going to.
Let's face it it's an old boys club. -Just like scouting is for the most part.
Speaking of young and upcoming coaches - Who would you take for this next year?

Paul McFarland. He's young, been a coach in the OHL, now WHL been an assistant in the NHL. I'm sure there are other names just a suggestion.

 

[TuckerFan1]

DC was taking the brunt of it yesterday from the NHL execs in Kingston I overhead talking about it.
ALOT of the NHL front offices came to Kingston yesterday to watch the Brampton game on their off day from WJ.
It was the topic of the scout room and viewing area yesterday.
I think I have eluded to HC politics at least 5-10x on here.
I do however believe he is the face of the team and going to take a shit kicking from this if it turns out how we all think its going to.
Let's face it it's an old boys club. -Just like scouting is for the most part.
Speaking of young and upcoming coaches - Who would you take for this next year?

I feel like Lazary should've had the reigns this year. He's been running a very competitive program in Saginaw. Don't know if he'll get a shot next year since he was an assistant for this team. Probably time for someone in the Q or WHL to get a shot again.

With that being said. HC will probably ask Brent Sutter if he wants another go....

 

[OSA]

DC was taking the brunt of it yesterday from the NHL execs in Kingston I overhead talking about it.
ALOT of the NHL front offices came to Kingston yesterday to watch the Brampton game on their off day from WJ.
It was the topic of the scout room and viewing area yesterday.
I think I have eluded to HC politics at least 5-10x on here.
I do however believe he is the face of the team and going to take a shit kicking from this if it turns out how we all think its going to.
Let's face it it's an old boys club. -Just like scouting is for the most part.
Speaking of young and upcoming coaches - Who would you take for this next year?

Mark O’Leary

 

[All the Answers]

DC was taking the brunt of it yesterday from the NHL execs in Kingston I overhead talking about it.
ALOT of the NHL front offices came to Kingston yesterday to watch the Brampton game on their off day from WJ.
It was the topic of the scout room and viewing area yesterday.
I think I have eluded to HC politics at least 5-10x on here.
I do however believe he is the face of the team and going to take a shit kicking from this if it turns out how we all think its going to.
Let's face it it's an old boys club. -Just like scouting is for the most part.
Speaking of young and upcoming coaches - Who would you take for this next year?

Jussi Ahokas