WJC: 2025 Team Canada Roster Talk

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Yager was very good in the defensive role. Best in the tournament on faceoffs. And still tied for the team lead in points (as sad as that is). He was the third line C not the 2nd. His minutes were up because he was on the PK and the team had a lot of penalties.

Not sure how you can give the young stars a pass but be upset that 3 or 4 or 5 more young guys were not on the roster.

Would rather lose with the young guys getting the experience for next year than lose with the mediocrities that proved they aren’t that good.

 

[jigglysquishy]

When things went poorly for Canada in the 90s (96 World Cup, 98 Olympics, 1998 World Juniors) Canada created a think-tank to find out what went wrong.

It largely resulted in a great period of international success (2002,2010,2014 Olympics + 2004 World Cup) and the five-peat at the World Juniors.

Hockey Canada needs as serious introspective.

 

[4thline]

Catton-Hage-Sennecke
Cristall-Misa-Martone
Iginla-McKenna-Luchanko
Wood-Lindstrom-Greentree
McQueen

Schaefer-Danford
Mews-Parekh
Dickenson-Yakemchuk
Dupont

George
Ivankovic

That is without doing much research. (I apolgize for any errors)

Oh that wasn't "my" take on a team. Just an example of a team that could be made with next to zero thought based on what was left after the professionals had their pick of the litter.

We left 12 first rounders at home, with 2 more (Lindstrom and Iginla) that I left off due to injury. The cupboard isn't bare, the sky isn't falling. We just took a sub-optimal team that the coach turned into less than the sum of it's parts. We can probably medal doing one or the other, not both.

 

[Crosby2010]

Or maybe Canada should send half of their team to play in European leagues to have a chance?

There is a reason why Canadian teenagers don't get trained over in Europe and many Europeans ones get trained here.

 

[DJB]

Canada needs major changes after 2nd straight early WJHC exit

Beckett Sennecke was fittingly named the OHL's player of the month for December on the same day Team Canada was embarrassingly eliminated by Czechia in the quarterfinals of the World Junior Hockey Championship for the second consecutive year.Sennecke, the third overall pick by the Anaheim Ducks...

thescore.com

This article is bang on

 

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Well reading todays quotes, im not surprised.

Hockey Canada and accountability have never been associated.

 

[DJB]

 

[TheDoldrums]

Scott Wheeler does what TSN refuses and asks the reasonable tough questions that should be asked, and reports on it rather than joining in the party line.

That’s the benefit of being independent. TSN is a partner with Hockey Canada. It would be like expecting a NHL teams own media department to grill the team, not going to happen.

At least Jeff O’Neill did have SOME criticisms about the coaching after the loss. And Duthie would try to allude to selection controversy at times. But yeah, you need to go outside the bubble to get real reporting.

 

[VeteranPresence]

When things went poorly for Canada in the 90s (96 World Cup, 98 Olympics, 1998 World Juniors) Canada created a think-tank to find out what went wrong.

It largely resulted in a great period of international success (2002,2010,2014 Olympics + 2004 World Cup) and the five-peat at the World Juniors.

Hockey Canada needs as serious introspective.

Nah, best we can do is "fine tune some things".

No, seriously:

"Do we need to blow everything up and start over? I don’t think so. I think we need to probably fine-tune some things. Again, this sounds like I’m making excuses, but we won two in a row prior to coming in and losing two in a row so it’s not completely a disaster. It is in the last two years but I think you’ve got to look at the long-term and the success that our program has had as well."

Salmond's a clown, Cameron's a clown, Anholt is a clown. Why are we shocked they've iced a circus?

And to just dig the knife in a bit more...

"I think we’ve proven to do things the right way, with the right people, and so that’s not going to change,” Salmond said. “I don’t think the results are always indicative of the people or the process."

LO f***ing L.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

TSN doing a hit about Canada not practicing with Sweden in the middle of practice in the background was hilarious lmao

 

[TheAppleCorps]

Maybe someone has already asked this in this thread, but could someone explain to me how Peter Anholt, someone who went out of their way to hire Bill Peters as the head coach of the team he is the GM for, is somehow worried about character?

 

[JackSlater]

More good from Wheeler:



We hear every year about such and such being a guy Hockey Canada is "comfortable" with or someone they know, or other players labelled a longshot because they don't have experience with Hockey Canada. Anholt emphasized multiple times before this tournament began how he and the management group know these players this year based on past experience.

Maybe someone has already asked this in this thread, but could someone explain to me how Peter Anholt, someone who went out of their way to hire Bill Peters as the head coach of the team he is the GM for, is somehow worried about character?

If Peter Anholt were not such a fine judge of character he surely would not have hired Brodan Salmond in summer 2023. How else could he have found such a diamond in the rough just as he began the busy process of taking over as general manager of Canada's 2024 WJC team?

 

[TheDoldrums]

TSN doing a hit about Canada not practicing with Sweden in the middle of practice in the background was hilarious lmao

 

[PaulD]

Watch videos of "cocky" boxers. Always land on their butts quick.

so true

 

[PaulD]

Would rather lose with the young guys getting the experience for next year than lose with the mediocrities that proved they aren’t that good.

they lost last year ....
and brought back the guys that "got the experience for this year" .....and lost again, to the same team, by the same score, on the same day, in the last minute.

But I get what you are saying

Cheers

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

Team was cooked before the tournament even began, they were never overcoming that roster construction and coaching

 

[PaulD]

Nah, best we can do is "fine tune some things".

No, seriously:

"Do we need to blow everything up and start over? I don’t think so. I think we need to probably fine-tune some things. Again, this sounds like I’m making excuses, but we won two in a row prior to coming in and losing two in a row so it’s not completely a disaster. It is in the last two years but I think you’ve got to look at the long-term and the success that our program has had as well."

Salmond's a clown, Cameron's a clown, Anholt is a clown. Why are we shocked they've iced a circus?

And to just dig the knife in a bit more...

"I think we’ve proven to do things the right way, with the right people, and so that’s not going to change,” Salmond said. “I don’t think the results are always indicative of the people or the process."

LO f***ing L.

Salmond - hockey politician

Team was cooked before the tournament even began, they were never overcoming that roster construction and coaching

thought same thing....Latvia game only confirmed it.

 

[ryan callahan]

Incredible how little flack players are getting for their pathetic effort. Shows how low hockey knowledge has gotten in Canada. Dickinson has just been the worse defenseman on the team and people are already pencilling him in for next year. What a joke.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Incredible how little flack players are getting for their pathetic effort. Shows how low hockey knowledge has gotten in Canada. Dickinson has just been the worse defenseman on the team and people are already pencilling him in for next year. What a joke.

Personally I don't think the answer is to shit on teenagers more then they already do get shit on....but you do you. It isn't their fault they are on the team btw.

 

[ryan callahan]

Personally I don't think the answer is to shit on teenagers more then they already do get shit on....but you do you. It isn't their fault they are on the team btw.

Lmao what? They aren't forced to play. Cameron wasn't "forced" to coach either or Anholt to be the GM. These guys are 18+ for the most part. These young adults will have to face NHL or AHL pressure very soon and they don't look ready for it. At all.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Lmao what? They aren't forced to play. Cameron wasn't "forced" to coach either or Anholt to be the GM. These guys are 18+ for the most part. These young adults will have to face NHL or AHL pressure very soon and they don't look ready for it. At all.

Yes yes that is a completely realistic expectation. "I know I have dreamed of playing in this tournament my entire childhood but sorry I can't do it Sennecke is better he can have my spot". Like if a player is taken....and they shouldn't have been taken in what world is that the players fault? Explain it to me in detail.

 

[ryan callahan]

Yes yes that is a completely realistic expectation. "I know I have dreamed of playing in this tournament my entire childhood but sorry I can't do it Sennecke is better he can have my spot". Like if a player is taken....and they shouldn't have been taken in what world is that the players fault? Explain it to me in detail.

I didn't mean it this way. If a player doesn't care for the tournament, he can always say no. Government isn't gonna take away their citizenship. And I'm not speaking about iffy picks like Gibson, Pinelli and Cataford, I'm talking about consensus picks guys like Martone and Dickinson who clearly didn't seem like they cared about being there.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

they lost last year ....
and brought back the guys that "got the experience for this year" .....and lost again, to the same team, by the same score, on the same day, in the last minute.

But I get what you are saying

Cheers

Only thing I'd point out about there is that a lot of the players from this year should actually be back next year and are top of the lineup types in the NHL eventually (McKenna, Catton, Martone, Misa, etc). Meanwhile, last year was basically just Celebrini from that standpoint. I don’t even think any of the potential candidates to play NHL next year will, so it should have all those younger players back.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I didn't mean it this way. If a player doesn't care for the tournament, he can always say no. Government isn't gonna take away their citizenship. And I'm not speaking about iffy picks like Gibson, Pinelli and Cataford, I'm talking about consensus picks guys like Martone and Dickinson who clearly didn't seem like they cared about being there.

I think you are making pretty massive assumptions with nothing to back it up that any of the players didn't care about being there lol

 

[ryan callahan]

I think you are making pretty massive assumptions with nothing to back it up that any of the players didn't care about being there lol

Body language. And assumptions are all that can be made right now. None of us were actually in the locker room. Better save that argument for those harping on management too I guess.