WJC: 2025 Team Canada Roster Talk

[ORRFForever]

I don't think the team is a write off yet but changes are in order and the result should not distract from the clear flaws in the Hockey Canada process. Most people in this thread are correct, though I am sure that there is mindless cheerleading and hand wringing about people rightly complaining from a poster of two who were rightly ignored years ago. It is unfortunate when fans are more reliable than the people put in charge to make these teams, but that is the case for Canada at the junior level most times.

Oh please...

All these Monday morning quarterbacks.

If you're so smart, go get a job at Hockey Canada - or in the NHL or in another country. Convince them you know better.

My guess : You're as close in the hockey competence department to a hockey executive as you are in the looks department to the young Paul Newman in your avatar. In other words, it's all in your imagination. But keep looking in the mirror and seeing this...

My God, Paul Newman was a handsome man. LOL!

 

[Knave]

All these Monday morning quarterbacks.

Everyone here could lose to Latvia. We now have that in common with the geniuses behind the bench of Team Canada and in Hockey Canada's front office.

Are you in the front office? Why are you taking this so personally? You suck at your job. Deal with it.


"We missed our forecasted revenue by 15% and YoY we're down 20%. WE DID A GREAT JOB AND SHUT UP YOU WOULD DO EVEN WORSE" - Hockey Canada

 

[SI90]

Feel Terrible for him. Once in a lifetime experience and in his draft year. I don’t think it will affect his draft status (still top5) but just feel horrible for him. Hope he has a full recovery.

This really is a huge blow to a Canada team already feeling down.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Oh please...

All these Monday morning quarterbacks.

If you're so smart, go get a job at Hockey Canada - or in the NHL or in another country. Convince them you know better.

My guess : You're as close in the hockey competence department to a hockey executive as you are in the looks department to the young Paul Newman in your avatar. In other words, it's all in your imagination. But keep looking in the mirror and seeing this...

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When a vast majority found the many of the decisions strange before the tournament, and then you lose to Latvia it’s not called Monday morning quarterbacking - it’s called foresight.

Canadian hockey has a certain arrogance to it, and I’m totally down with that - however it comes with being questioned, and expectations to perform.
Hope they turn it around, we’ll see what these guys are made of soon enough.

 

[Starry Knight]

Oh please...

All these Monday morning quarterbacks.

If you're so smart, go get a job at Hockey Canada - or in the NHL or in another country. Convince them you know better.

My guess : You're as close in the hockey competence department to a hockey executive as you are in the looks department to the young Paul Newman in your avatar. In other words, it's all in your imagination. But keep looking in the mirror and seeing this...

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You can be a fan of Canada and recognize that Hockey Canada hasn't constructed a optimal roster. It isn't 'unpatriotic' to point that out.

And sports management is far from a meritocracy. Nepotism runs rampant, cronyism runs rampant, and talented analytical people in society don't typically end up in sports management as a primary career. Let's not put these people on a pedestal.

 

[ORRFForever]

Everyone here could lose to Latvia. We now have that in common with the geniuses behind the bench of Team Canada and in Hockey Canada's front office.

Are you in the front office? Why are you taking this so personally? You suck at your job. Deal with it.


"We missed our forecasted revenue by 15%???? WE DID A GREAT JOB SHUT UP YOU WOULD DO EVEN WORSE" - Hockey Canada

I'm not the one saying I know better than the people at Hockey Canada. I'm the one saying stand by the kids.

You can be a fan of Canada and recognize that Hockey Canada hasn't constructed a optimal roster. It isn't 'unpatriotic' to point that out.

And sports management is far from a meritocracy. Nepotism runs rampant, cronyism runs rampant, and talented analytical people in society don't typically end up in sports management as a primary career. Let's not put these people on a pedestal.

But it's the same every tournament. All these Monday morning quarterbacks know better. Well, if you do, send your resume to Hockey Canada or USA Hockey or somewhere else.

Prove to the world how smart you are.

 

[Starry Knight]

I'm not the one saying I know better than the people at Hockey Canada. I'm the one saying stand by the kids.

There are few people blaming individual players. I'm one of Oliver Bonk's biggest fans and I think he'll be a great NHL player. The fault lies at Dave Cameron's feet for deploying him as a PPQB when he's a defensive defenceman.

The fault lies at Team Canada management for not having more offensive talent at the blueline to run the powerplay.

You can see the difference, right?

 

[ORRFForever]

It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

If the team wins, you cheer, if the team loses, you tell the world you knew better - if the people in charge just listened to you.

Give me a break.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Oh please...

All these Monday morning quarterbacks.

If you're so smart, go get a job at Hockey Canada - or in the NHL or in another country. Convince them you know better.

My guess : You're as close in the hockey competence department to a hockey executive as you are in the looks department to the young Paul Newman in your avatar. In other words, it's all in your imagination. But keep looking in the mirror and seeing this...

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The coach you keep defending has:

1. Put Bonk on the PP over Dickinson. He’s looked terrible there. He’s assuming he knows more than the Hunters who are vastly more successful hockey ops people.
2. He’s gifting his nepo baby Pinelli top six minutes which is obviously a brutal move.
3. He left home 4 top ten picks for guys who have done nothing, so he obviously is smarter than NHL executives despite his time in the NHL being an unmitigated disaster.

But sure, we are all just a bunch of casual fans who know nothing about hockey.

 

[Starry Knight]

I'm not the one saying I know better than the people at Hockey Canada. I'm the one saying stand by the kids.


But it's the same every tournament. All these Monday morning quarterbacks know better. Well, if you do, send your resume to Hockey Canada or USA Hockey or somewhere else.

Prove to the world how smart you are.

I'm a scientist with a PhD, I don't need to prove to hockey Canada my intelligence.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

There are few people blaming individual players. I'm one of Oliver Bonk's biggest fans and I think he'll be a great NHL player. The fault lies at Dave Cameron's feet for deploying him as a PPQB when he's a defensive defenceman.

The fault lies at Team Canada management for not having more offensive talent at the blueline to run the powerplay.

You can see the difference, right?

Especially when the options were widely available.

 

[ORRFForever]

There are few people blaming individual players. I'm one of Oliver Bonk's biggest fans and I think he'll be a great NHL player. The fault lies at Dave Cameron's feet for deploying him as a PPQB when he's a defensive defenceman.

The fault lies at Team Canada management for not having more offensive talent at the blueline to run the powerplay.

You can see the difference, right?

Then throw in your resume to coach the team or run Hockey Canada - one of the best hockey organizations in the world. See how far you get.

Again, a bunch of Monday Morning Quarterbacks,.

I'm a scientist with a PhD, I don't need to prove to hockey Canada my intelligence.

LOL!

The coach you keep defending has:

1. Put Bonk on the PP over Dickinson. He’s looked terrible there. He’s assuming he knows more than the Hunters who are vastly more successful hockey ops people.
2. He’s gifting his nepo baby Pinelli top six minutes which is obviously a brutal move.
3. He left home 4 top ten picks for guys who have done nothing, so he obviously is smarter than NHL executives despite his time in the NHL being an unmitigated disaster.

But sure, we are all just a bunch of casual fans who know nothing about hockey.

Again, it's easy to be a Monday Morning Quarterback. That's why there are so many of them.

Have mistakes been made? Of course, but this team beat Czechia, Sweden and Finland. They lose one game and everyone else is an expert.

 

[Knave]

Then throw in your resume to coach the team or run Hockey Canada - one of the best hockey organizations in the world. See how far you get.

Again, a bunch of Monday Morning Quarterbacks,.

Again - anyone here could lose to Latvia. Losing to Latvia is not some massive achievement.

Literally anyone in the country could do what Dave Cameron and Hockey Canada managed yesterday. Here's an artistic representation of them and you:

 

[NyQuil]

Then throw in your resume to coach the team or run Hockey Canada - one of the best hockey organizations in the world. See how far you get.

Again, a bunch of Monday Morning Quarterbacks,.


LOL!

Yes, Hockey Canada, the organization that tried to sweep gangbangs under the rug.

No one should ever question their decision making ever because they are infallible in every single way.

 

[Starry Knight]

Then throw in your resume to coach the team or run Hockey Canada - one of the best hockey organizations in the world. See how far you get.

Again, a bunch of Monday Morning Quarterbacks,.


LOL!

Hockey Canada is far from the best run hockey organization. They have been complicit in the covering up of sexual assaults which resulted in them hemorrhaging advertising revenue for years. Enrollment in hockey in Canada is dwindling.

Not exactly hallmarks of a top organization.

 

[WarriorofTime]

They could but they just rostered Mynio along with Parekh liking the Canada lose on insta Hockey Canada probably isn't about to parachute him in to save the day.

Gotcha. Last night just feels like the kind of game where Parekh would have had 4 assists and people would go “yeah but it’s Latvia”

But it’s like yeah there you go, that’s why a player like that is usually brought.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Then throw in your resume to coach the team or run Hockey Canada - one of the best hockey organizations in the world. See how far you get.

Again, a bunch of Monday Morning Quarterbacks,.

I know you are being facetious but this is a terrible argument because Hockey Canada doesn’t evaluate management (or players) based on resumes. It’s an OBC that’s been getting worse every year and now we’re seeing the fruits of it.

 

[SmytheKing]

Then throw in your resume to coach the team or run Hockey Canada - one of the best hockey organizations in the world. See how far you get.

Again, a bunch of Monday Morning Quarterbacks,.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but you keep saying this like Team Canada puts these sorts of jobs on indeed.com and goes through resumes and conducts interviews.

There's no chance to get a job with them no matter how knowledgeable and smart you might be. It's like saying that you should go direct a Marvel movie before you criticize them. Silly stuff.

 

[ORRFForever]

Anyway, for @JackSlater and all the rest of you "experts", here is the link for careers at hockey Canada....

Hockey Canada Careers

Hockey Canada employs over 100 staff in Calgary, Ottawa, Toronto and Regional Centres. Apply to current job postings or send your resumé for future career opportunities with the national governing body for grassroots and high performance hockey in Canada.

www.hockeycanada.ca

If they won't hire you, here is the link for jobs at the NHL...

NHL Team Jobs

Connect with 1,500+ employers from the NFL, NBA, WNBA, MLB, NHL, MLS, NWSL, college athletics, sports tech startups, agencies, arenas, and more

www.teamworkonline.com

Please send them your posts prior to yesterday's loss and explain how you would have done a better job.

P.S. When they don't hire you, you can say it's because Hockey Canada is an old boys club and you were passed over because you don't have the proper connections.

 

[Maple Leaf]

People get mad about a junior tournament

 

[ORRFForever]

I know you are being facetious but this is a terrible argument because Hockey Canada doesn’t evaluate management (or players) based on resumes. It’s an OBC that’s been getting worse every year and now we’re seeing the fruits of it.

I am not being facetious.

Canadian Hockey fans are the worst. All a bunch of "know it alls".

 

[Mathieukferland]

Then throw in your resume to coach the team or run Hockey Canada - one of the best hockey organizations in the world. See how far you get.

Again, a bunch of Monday Morning Quarterbacks,.


LOL!


Again, it's easy to be a Monday Morning Quarterback. That's why there are so many of them.

Have mistakes been made? Of course, but this team beat Czechia, Sweden and Finland. They lose one game and everyone else is an expert.

Your eternal optimism is impressive, but for a lot of people on this board, the issues with this roster were apparent as soon as the camp roster was announced.

I’m not going to pretend I’m Julien Brisebois and I was a bang average player, but I played to a decent level and have a lot of former teammates and friends that both play in the NHL and work in Major and Provincial junior. I would assume it would make me one of the more insightful posters on these boards (not that it matters, we’re all here because we enjoy the game, regardless if you’ve never even played), and I will defend the criticisms of the fellow posters are making about the roster.

I don’t wish harm on anyone of the single players defending the national colours, but the management group’s flawed philosophy of building this team has put the team at an unnecessary inherent disadvantage. And those disadvantages have been born out through all but the Switzerland game in precomp.

I'm a scientist with a PhD, I don't need to prove to hockey Canada my intelligence.

HAHAHAHA I’m currently doing mine as well, and to think as much as I love hockey and my country, I’m not going to give up a lucrative career post academia to go ride a bus to Prince Albert or Témiscamingue

 

[thaman8765678]

They left most of the best players at home. I hope they do not get a medal. Need huge changes in Hockey Canada.

 

[VeteranPresence]

I am not being facetious.

Canadian Hockey fans are the worst. All a bunch of "know it alls".

I would rather folks who know it all than the ones who have proven with their roster choices they know very little.

 

[ORRFForever]

People get mad about a junior tournament

If you mean me, I'm not being "mad" about the tournament.

I just tired of all the Canadian fans who turn on the team as soon as the going gets tough. It's happened since 1972 and it will be around long after I'm gone.